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FAT32 is still used for EFI partitions so your computer knows how to find the bootloader. I'm not sure if any new computers can now handle a ext4 EFI partition yet.
 
Just think of all those PCs that are going to get thrown out because they can't be upgraded to Windows 11 due to their strict hardware requirements and mandatory TPM chip. Whilst some will have served their time and are at that point good enough for the bin, a lot of them could easily get a fresh lease of life as a Linux PC.

To be fair, Linux is not much of a barrier compared to how it used to be. The general web browser user could easily cope. If you are a gamer then as long as it's not fucked by anti cheat you can do it for the most part, compatibility is a lot better these days. Not everything is Linux friendly but it's better than how it used to be back in the day.

Looked into the craptop myself and seeing how there's been a few horror stories regarding the internal 64GB storage I have bought a 128GB SSD to go into it from eBay.
Depending on what you want to do with this laptop, it might not be necessary. A barebones Linux install on a binary distro is about 2 GBs, give or take. With a weak CPU like that, I'd forget about fancy DEs and compositors. JWM, IceWM or Openbox (what I use) are your friends, unless you want to use tiling WMs.
 
Agree with the assessment on Mint, it's darn good and probably the most flawless of all the Linux distros out there. I think Linux tards who move on to Arch or Fedora do so out of boredom, you can modify the hell out of Mint just like any other distro. You can always put Gnome or JWM or whatever on Mint and run it using those Windows Manager/environments. Change the kernel if you wish.

JWM is fun and I use it on my 21 year old laptop which still works. So many ways to tweak it if you get bored.
 
I'm not sure if any new computers can now handle a ext4 EFI partition yet.
Why would they though? ext4 is supported basically only by Linux, FAT32 is supported by absolutely everything including your smart blender and you don't need files over 4GB in your EFI partition, nor do you need any of the shit that file systems like ext4 or NTFS offer. If anything, ext4 EFI partitions is the type of purposefully incompatible bullshit I'd expect people accuse Microsoft of. Imagine if Microsoft forced it for ReFS to be the standard for EFI partitions to cut Linux out of the market.
 
Agree with the assessment on Mint, it's darn good and probably the most flawless of all the Linux distros out there. I think Linux tards who move on to Arch or Fedora do so out of boredom, you can modify the hell out of Mint just like any other distro. You can always put Gnome or JWM or whatever on Mint and run it using those Windows Manager/environments. Change the kernel if you wish.
The primary difference is that in the end Linux Mint isn't really its own distribution, it's built off stable releases of other distributions. If you're using a full distribution like Devuan, there should be testing and unstable branches that let you use the latest software, like Arch, but more coherently.
 
This is the kind of thing I'm worried about with the project from the beginning bringing in non-technical politics at all. I feel like it's going to add unnecessary hurdles. And I'm sure lunduke loves it. Because that means he can grift attention off of it. But for the project it's probably going to be a net negative.

I fucking hate btrfs so much it's unreal - thinking of reformatting to exfat4
Yeah. Btrfs isn't worth using in my opinion. Nothing it offers, makes dealing with it worth it. And the snapshot thing. Isn't completely worthless, but using it to revert changes to the system to fix problems, at least when I tried using it. Was just a waste of my time, disk space, and CPU cycles. While getting worse performance.

The file system I've really grown to love, and in my opinion is really underrated is xfs. It's not new or fancy and it seems like not that many people know about it even though it's by no means new. The reasons I recommend it are:

it has even better performance than ext4. While still being just about as light. Some people say it's not as fast on smaller files, but that information is outdated, as far as I know even small files should be just as fast now.

It also takes advantage of copy-on-write, and it should automatically work with cp And it allows you to make copies within your file system super fast, without taking up extra disk space until the files actually start to change. (Just the normal CoW behavior).

And one of the most important things to me. Is it just works like a normal filesystem, not needing all the extra subvolume stuff.
 
The primary difference is that in the end Linux Mint isn't really its own distribution, it's built off stable releases of other distributions. If you're using a full distribution like Devuan, there should be testing and unstable branches that let you use the latest software, like Arch, but more coherently.
They may be stable, but they aren't necessarily user friendly and sometimes even makes user hostile design choices like Gnome or snaps. Linux Mint takes that stable base and strips out the garbage like snaps, then maintains their own desktop environment Cinnamon which was forked from Gnome but then actually made user friendly.
 
They may be stable, but they aren't necessarily user friendly and sometimes even makes user hostile design choices like Gnome or snaps. Linux Mint takes that stable base and strips out the garbage like snaps, then maintains their own desktop environment Cinnamon which was forked from Gnome but then actually made user friendly.
If you like your Cinnamon you can keep it
 
I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.
 
I fucking hate btrfs so much it's unreal
wdym? It's literally called "Better FS". How can you hate that?
I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.
It won't. There'll be some marginal gains, that's all. People bitch about Windows, talk about trying Linux, and in the end, they'll install 11. Then they'll bitch about 12 or whatever marking number/name comes after and talk about how great 11 was in comparison. Which, with all those pajeet code monkeys, will be true, but won't change anything. Hardware-wise, it doesn't matter at all. Cheap computers people replace when windows stops working anyways, and more expensive ones will work with 11.
 
I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.
Its already not happening, people are just tossing out older machines that don't support 11 and buying new ones that can.
Year of the Linux desktop continues to be elusive.
 
I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.
I want to be hopeful that more people would dump M$'s bullshit but we both know the vast swathes of niggercattle will accept Win11.
 
This is the kind of thing I'm worried about with the project from the beginning bringing in non-technical politics at all. I feel like it's going to add unnecessary hurdles. And I'm sure lunduke loves it. Because that means he can grift attention off of it. But for the project it's probably going to be a net negative.
I look forward to the X11 wars. Very excited to see who ignores this fork and who jumps in.

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.
Not by a lot. My take on it, most people who absolutely refuse to run Win11 will:

- stay on Win10, updates be damned;
- move to macOS.
These are the two big groups of Win11 evaders. Linux newcomers won't even register by comparison.
 
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Not by a lot. My take on it, most people who absolutely refuse to run Win11 will:

- stay on Win10, updates be damned;
- move to macOS.
These are the two big groups of Win11 evaders. Linux newcomers won't even register by comparison.
First one is the most likely.
Stay on 10 until their hardware gets too old/slow to run Chrome or whatever, then buy a new machine and deal with 11.
There's still people using Windows 7 and XP on the internet after all. I have a feeling people will still be seeing Windows 10 in a bunch of weird places in 20 years time.
 
First one is the most likely.
Stay on 10 until their hardware gets too old/slow to run Chrome or whatever, then buy a new machine and deal with 11.
There's still people using Windows 7 and XP on the internet after all. I have a feeling people will still be seeing Windows 10 in a bunch of weird places in 20 years time.
There are still people using Win7/XP but not very many, the great majority of Windows users upgraded to 10. I admit that I don't really know what got people to upgrade, but we should not expect people to continue using Windows 10 forever just because 11 is 11.
 
Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.
If I wanted to deliberately break a Linux system, would at least do something funny, like make PowerShell the default shell and NTFS the root filesystem.
Linuxcast uses btrfs. What more endorsement do you need?

Not sure what his actual reason for using it is. But he does use it.

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Not going to bother watching it. The thumbnail and title says enough.
 
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Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.
Saar it is actually the default for:
Opensuse
Fedora (RHEL as well)

It is the most beautifulest of file systems saar it has compression that doesnt work for a majority of things that take up a lot of space, you know, the thing you would actually want to compress, and snapshots saar! (I dont understand snapshots. Just chroot into your system and fix it.)
I admit that I don't really know what got people to upgrade
They're normies. Laptop breaks, buy new one, comes with newer windows, use it till it dies, repeat. A normal user never updates windows unless microsoft forces them to.

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Not going to bother watching it. The thumbnail and title says enough.
Nicco is a faggot. That is all.
 
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