The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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They may be stable, but they aren't necessarily user friendly and sometimes even makes user hostile design choices like Gnome or snaps. Linux Mint takes that stable base and strips out the garbage like snaps, then maintains their own desktop environment Cinnamon which was forked from Gnome but then actually made user friendly.

If you like your Cinnamon you can keep it

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=cinnamon-desktop-environment

 

[Snorky]

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.

 

[HalHalliday]

I fucking hate btrfs so much it's unreal

wdym? It's literally called "Better FS". How can you hate that?

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.

It won't. There'll be some marginal gains, that's all. People bitch about Windows, talk about trying Linux, and in the end, they'll install 11. Then they'll bitch about 12 or whatever marking number/name comes after and talk about how great 11 was in comparison. Which, with all those pajeet code monkeys, will be true, but won't change anything. Hardware-wise, it doesn't matter at all. Cheap computers people replace when windows stops working anyways, and more expensive ones will work with 11.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.

Its already not happening, people are just tossing out older machines that don't support 11 and buying new ones that can.
Year of the Linux desktop continues to be elusive.

 

[GrimPortents]

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.

I want to be hopeful that more people would dump M$'s bullshit but we both know the vast swathes of niggercattle will accept Win11.

 

[Jang Joo]

This is the kind of thing I'm worried about with the project from the beginning bringing in non-technical politics at all. I feel like it's going to add unnecessary hurdles. And I'm sure lunduke loves it. Because that means he can grift attention off of it. But for the project it's probably going to be a net negative.

I look forward to the X11 wars. Very excited to see who ignores this fork and who jumps in.

I do wonder how much more popular Linux will get in the desktop scene once Windows 10 reaches its end of life in 4 months, especially considering the amount of hardware that won't work with 11.

Not by a lot. My take on it, most people who absolutely refuse to run Win11 will:

- stay on Win10, updates be damned;
- move to macOS.
These are the two big groups of Win11 evaders. Linux newcomers won't even register by comparison.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Not by a lot. My take on it, most people who absolutely refuse to run Win11 will:

- stay on Win10, updates be damned;
- move to macOS.
These are the two big groups of Win11 evaders. Linux newcomers won't even register by comparison.

First one is the most likely.
Stay on 10 until their hardware gets too old/slow to run Chrome or whatever, then buy a new machine and deal with 11.
There's still people using Windows 7 and XP on the internet after all. I have a feeling people will still be seeing Windows 10 in a bunch of weird places in 20 years time.

 

[DavidS877]

wdym? It's literally called "Better FS". How can you hate that?

What? I thought it stood for "Butter FS" because sometimes it just melts and takes all your data with it.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.
If I wanted to deliberately break a Linux system, would at least do something funny, like make PowerShell the default shell and NTFS the root filesystem.

 

[volatile puar]

First one is the most likely.
Stay on 10 until their hardware gets too old/slow to run Chrome or whatever, then buy a new machine and deal with 11.
There's still people using Windows 7 and XP on the internet after all. I have a feeling people will still be seeing Windows 10 in a bunch of weird places in 20 years time.

There are still people using Win7/XP but not very many, the great majority of Windows users upgraded to 10. I admit that I don't really know what got people to upgrade, but we should not expect people to continue using Windows 10 forever just because 11 is 11.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.
If I wanted to deliberately break a Linux system, would at least do something funny, like make PowerShell the default shell and NTFS the root filesystem.

Linuxcast uses btrfs. What more endorsement do you need?

Not sure what his actual reason for using it is. But he does use it.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Not going to bother watching it. The thumbnail and title says enough.

 

[Rust Troony]

Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.

Saar it is actually the default for:
Opensuse
Fedora (RHEL as well)

It is the most beautifulest of file systems saar it has compression that doesnt work for a majority of things that take up a lot of space, you know, the thing you would actually want to compress, and snapshots saar! (I dont understand snapshots. Just chroot into your system and fix it.)

I admit that I don't really know what got people to upgrade

They're normies. Laptop breaks, buy new one, comes with newer windows, use it till it dies, repeat. A normal user never updates windows unless microsoft forces them to.

edit (i got sniped. ):

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Not going to bother watching it. The thumbnail and title says enough.

Nicco is a faggot. That is all.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

RHEL

Funny you say that because RHEL still defaults to XFS, and they aren't planning on changing it any time soon.
Btrfs is still available if you want your server to be non operational.

Nicco is a faggot. That is all.

Not surprising, 1 second look at his face tells you all you need to know.
Niggers thinking everything right of Stalin is right wing need to be shot immediately.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

People have pointed it out in this thread a few times now, but the biggest hurdle for Linux spreading is simply that 90+% of computers come with Windows preinstalled, and most people only ever use the preinstalled OS. Even if people hate Windows 11, they would sooner struggle with it until Windows 12 comes out (and is even worse) than figure out how to install a new OS themselves. That just seems insurmountable to them.

No matter how user-friendly desktop Linux gets, it'll only get widespread if tons of pre-built computers suddenly start coming with Linux preinstalled (like Microsoft will let that happen), or like all the Linux users go full evangelist and start sticking Linux on all their family and friends' computers and that successfully converts the more tech literate to do the same to spread the good word.

 

[Rust Troony]

Funny you say that because RHEL still defaults to XFS

Ah, i was going off old knowledge back when i actually cared about anything redhat was doing. I guess they realized it stunk for server use and canned it for XFS.

it'll only get widespread if tons of pre-built computers suddenly start coming with Linux preinstalled (like Microsoft will let that happen)

Microsoft would probably start pouring millions into exclusive rights partnerships before they allow someone with a big market presense to sell a Linux laptop on any store shelfs.

I hope Valve starts making steam boxes again.

 

[GrimPortents]

People have pointed it out in this thread a few times now, but the biggest hurdle for Linux spreading is simply that 90+% of computers come with Windows preinstalled, and most people only ever use the preinstalled OS. Even if people hate Windows 11, they would sooner struggle with it until Windows 12 comes out (and is even worse) than figure out how to install a new OS themselves. That just seems insurmountable to them.

No matter how user-friendly desktop Linux gets, it'll only get widespread if tons of pre-built computers suddenly start coming with Linux preinstalled (like Microsoft will let that happen), or like all the Linux users go full evangelist and start sticking Linux on all their family and friends' computers and that successfully converts the more tech literate to do the same to spread the good word.

Did that to my parents and to a buddy of mine. Both are happy.

 

[Baguette Child]

start sticking Linux on all their family and friends' computers

Start resorting to guerilla warfare. Break into their homes while they are at work. Install Linux on their PCs without consent. Most will be too lazy to switch back. User base increase achieved.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Ah, i was going off old knowledge back when i actually cared about anything redhat was doing. I guess they realized it stunk for server use and canned it for XFS

Btrfs seems like a wierd choice. Either xfs which they obviously chose. Or if they wanted the things btrfs has. There is zfs, which seems like the obvious choice over btrfs for a server. I would think.

Btrfs seems like it's just there for Linux nerds that always need to be running the shiny new thing. They want the new file system with all the extra features, doesn't matter that they probably won't really take advantage of it. Or the new shell, with the extra stuff even though they probably don't even use half of the stuff bash can do (or bothered to learn about it) or replacing their cd command with zoxide, ls with some other unnecessary tool, etc. You get the idea.

That is the kind of person I feel like btrfs is for.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Do people actually use btrfs? I thought it was just a meme.

I wanted to, but the files I would use it for, like media files, don't really benefit from it. It's not very portable either.