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DavidS877 said:
What? Something originally designed to run on systems with 4MB of RAM, a 16MHz CPU and over 10 Mbit networks has better performance than today's pajeetware? You don't say.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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Technically, Wayland should be faster because it doesn't need to worry about outputting to VT-100 terminals and the like.
But, these are not your dad's programmers. Even if it's not pajeetware, troon brain fog will gum up the works.
It's a wonder it fucking compiles.
 
As I look into the people defacing the XLibre wiki page (calling it a “Nazi” project and a “Nazi bar”), I am struck by the kind of people they are.

One is a Canonical employee (long time Ubuntu & GNOME developer) named Jeremy Bicha.

Jeremy Bicha is a registered sex offender. He was found guilty of sexual battery of a victim under the age of 12 (his sister).

This is an article detailing his crimes:

Jeremy Bicha, in his X profile (
@jbicha
), describes himself as “Progressive”. And gives his pronoun as “he”.
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Saw this on Twitter just now.
 
I just want a linux distro where one of my monitors doesn't freeze after 10-15 days then i have to run sudo systemctl restart sddm and login again to fix it.
 
Installed arch after windows told me I needed to buy a new PC to "enjoy" windows 11. A few hiccups, but I think I got it figured out so far, lol.
 
CrackPipeCowboy said:
Installed arch after windows told me I needed to buy a new PC to "enjoy" windows 11. A few hiccups, but I think I got it figured out so far, lol.
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It's funny to me how frequently this tale is told. Windows 11 is eminently pirateable, and you can bypass every requirement except >1CPU with a couple procedures, a couple minutes in the install. But hey, the more people on Linux, the better. Enjoy your Arch.
 
analrapist said:
It's funny to me how frequently this tale is told. Windows 11 is eminently pirateable, and you can bypass every requirement except >1CPU with a couple procedures, a couple minutes in the install. But hey, the more people on Linux, the better. Enjoy your Arch.
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True, but at some point it will faster to compile your own kernel from source and build a distro around it than it will be to fudge in Windows and remove all the spyware, trackers and other garbage.
I'm not saying we're there yet, but give it time...
 
Vesperus said:
True, but at some point it will faster to compile your own kernel from source and build a distro around it than it will be to fudge in Windows and remove all the spyware, trackers and other garbage.
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I timed my last Gentoo install out of boredom, since compiling your own kernel and building a distro around it is exactly what that is.

This is on my desktop with an AMD Ryzen 3700x, given the entire 16 threads to portage.
- Took about 1 hour to get the basic install and kernel compiled, up to the point of rebooting in the handbook (About 30 mins of that is compiling the kernel, since I usually build a bloated kernel and strip it down later to get going first). I also keep a backup of all my /etc/portage files and my world file, which makes it much easier to get back up and running.
- Took about 10 hours to compile a basic KDE environment (plasma-meta + dolphin/konsole) with all its dependencies, along with a few basic terminal programs like vim but those take negligible time to compile compared to KDE.
- I usually use a binary web browser but add about 30 minutes to compile Firefox or 2-3 hours for Chromium on that build. Neither including dependencies that may be pulled, including huge ones like nodejs (Add another 30 minutes at least).
Took just over 24 hours to get everything I typically use + dependencies compiled, from booting off the livecd. Not including system configuration to get a proper KDE session up and running, ready for use (add another ~15 mins for that).
app-admin/eclean-kernel
app-admin/keepassxc
app-admin/kio-admin
app-admin/logrotate
app-admin/sudo
app-admin/sysklogd
app-arch/p7zip
app-arch/unrar
app-editors/vim
app-eselect/eselect-python
app-eselect/eselect-repository
app-misc/neofetch
app-office/calligra
app-office/libreoffice
app-office/merkuro
app-office/onlyoffice-bin
app-pda/ifuse
app-portage/eix
app-portage/genlop
app-portage/gentoolkit
app-shells/bash-completion
kde-apps/ark
kde-apps/dolphin
kde-apps/filelight
kde-apps/gwenview
kde-apps/kate
kde-apps/kcalc
kde-apps/kdegames-meta
kde-apps/kdenlive
kde-apps/kget
kde-apps/kmail
kde-apps/kolourpaint
kde-apps/konsole
kde-apps/kwalletmanager
kde-apps/okular
kde-plasma/plasma-meta
media-fonts/dejavu
media-fonts/wqy-zenhei
media-gfx/krita
media-sound/audacious
media-sound/elisa
media-sound/jamesdsp
media-sound/kasts
media-sound/kid3
media-video/haruna
media-video/jellyfin-mpv-shim
media-video/renamemytvseries-qt5-bin
net-analyzer/nmap
net-im/signal-desktop-bin
net-im/telegram-desktop
net-misc/aria2
net-misc/chrony
net-news/rssguard
net-p2p/qbittorrent
net-p2p/syncthing
sys-apps/mlocate
sys-apps/usbutils
sys-block/partitionmanager
sys-fs/dosfstools
sys-fs/exfatprogs
sys-fs/jfsutils
sys-fs/xfsprogs
sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel
sys-kernel/linux-firmware
sys-process/cronie
sys-process/htop
www-client/brave-bin
www-client/falkon
www-client/vivaldi

A lot of huge things are compiled with KDE (e.g., llvm and clang), so installing programs gets faster once these huge dependencies are done.
I use a lot of programs (but mostly KDE stuff) and have either default or additional use flags enabled for packages, so its not like I'm making a minimal system either.

I think we are still a while away from configuring Windows taking a straight day to fix. Don't put it past Jeetsoft to fuck it up so bad that installing Gentoo is faster then fixing Windows, one day.
 
analrapist said:
It's funny to me how frequently this tale is told. Windows 11 is eminently pirateable, and you can bypass every requirement except >1CPU with a couple procedures, a couple minutes in the install. But hey, the more people on Linux, the better. Enjoy your Arch.
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Windows 11 is bad enough, but 12 is going to be stuffed full of AI shit. Which is why I'm really hoping that I like Mint when I try it out. I'm going to be buying a new SSD when I get my next paycheck (I wanted to upgrade anyway, so I might as well install Mint on it). Windows 10 support ends in October, so I figure I can use it for the next three months (if I last that long) and decide if I want to switch or stick with Windows.
 
analrapist said:
It's funny to me how frequently this tale is told. Windows 11 is eminently pirateable, and you can bypass every requirement except >1CPU with a couple procedures, a couple minutes in the install.
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None of the sensational articles about how godawful Windows 11 is mention it, so people just assume that you can't tard wrangle Windows 11 like any other Windows version that came before it, but since Linux is paraded as this amazing open ecosystem people will gladly dive into the deep water from the get-go. Assuming they won't encounter an issue they can't get over and begrudgingly go back to Windows. Remember that the average Windows user is unaware they can turn off the stupid weather widget that blows up news articles in your face when you hover over it by right clicking on the taskbar and opening it's settings. It doesn't even cross their minds that you can right click it, that's your average awareness of what you can do with Windows. People just assume Microsoft forces them to use it the way they want it to be used, even if Microsoft still gives you a whole bunch of options to personalize your experience.
Banana Hammock said:
Windows 11 is bad enough, but 12 is going to be stuffed full of AI shit.
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Windows 12 is nothing but a massive rumor mill ran by the same tabloids that tout Windows 11 as the biggest blight upon humanity, which coincidentally was the exact same spiel they were peddling back when Windows 10 came out in 2015, yet nowadays everyone is completely happy with it, tale as old as time. Microsoft released 11 just to give a refreshment to 10 that is as old as it's name, and a good excuse to start shoving in AI shit for investors. They're already struggling with getting people to switch to 11, 11 is already a good vehicle to peddle more AI shit to investors such as Recall which didn't require a brand new Windows release to be added, so if anything, you'll be getting Windows 11 26H2 that'll be "so much worse stuffed full of AI shit" and not Windows 12.
 
Prj4MW8iPT3vmFM2rzDc said:
I just want a linux distro where one of my monitors doesn't freeze after 10-15 days then i have to run sudo systemctl restart sddm and login again to fix it.
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Usecase for longterm stability? Don't you worry about security chud? You need to apply security updates.
I think I found similar but quicker way to lockup the session. Lock the screen and manually turnoff the screen, you know like a person would do to leave PC running overnight. Coming back to it in the morning and what I see? Frozen lockscreen displaying time from last night, good thing that whatever was running in the background wasn't relying on GUI.
 
Jang Joo said:
So what're y'all doing with your FreeBSD installs?
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I was having a great time with FreeBSD. Everything worked, no issues.

I ran into much greater issues with Manjaro.
KDE failed to start on the Live USB, and i3 cut off about 7/8 of my screen. Only Xfce install worked out of the box.
It turns out their "GPU detection tool" mistakenly thought my nVidia card was shared with the Intel CPU, like on a laptop, so it loaded the wrong module (?). Anycase, I had to install it without any drivers, then manually install the correct driver and reconfigure xorg.conf by hand, because their auto utility wasn't detecting my monitor (?) at all. And, for some reason, it added about 8 audio output from the nVidia card.

I tried Manjaro instead of Arch specifically to avoid doing everything by hand, but honestly, when I was installing Artix previously, before FreeBSD, it was much simpler then dealing with all those "helper utilities".

So far, FreeBSD and Artix are the clear winners for my potential switch from Windows. I want to try Slackware next.
 
Manjaro exists solely to miss the point of Arch Linux from a functionality standpoint, no I'm not against the archinstall tool either so this isn't an accessibility issue. Or, at the very least, a distro with the purpose of gambling on dangerous packages update practices isn't really more accessible than vanilla Arch...
 
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Vesperus said:
True, but at some point it will faster to compile your own kernel from source and build a distro around it than it will be to fudge in Windows and remove all the spyware, trackers and other garbage.
I'm not saying we're there yet, but give it time...
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Every new version of Windows, the penguin molesters say this, and every version of Windows has multiple one-click solutions to remove or cripple all that shit, and next year is always the year of the Linux desktop.
 
Herman Throwaway said:
Every new version of Windows, the penguin molesters say this, and every version of Windows has multiple one-click solutions to remove or cripple all that shit, and next year is always the year of the Linux desktop.
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It's all about which amount of which shit you're willing to put up, since the golden age of Windows 7's "install and forget" is gone. You'll have to deal with some tard wrangling and compromises no matter what you choose.
Ahriman said:
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Nice.
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I'm interested to hear how they've accomplished it since LS relies on Windows' way of rendering windows, basically "hijacking" the window frames and interpolating them in it's own window displayed over everything else, and there's a choice between DXGI and WCG. I assume that they've managed to get DXGI working on Vulkan, though I wonder if that brings a smaller/larger/same latency than Windows, and if it's lower, if the same benefits could be achieved with DXVK under Windows.

Vulkan is just a better API in general. Fuck DirectX tbh
 
Slav Power said:
I'm interested to hear how they've accomplished it since LS relies on Windows' way of rendering windows, basically "hijacking" the window frames and interpolating them in it's own window displayed over everything else, and there's a choice between DXGI and WCG. I assume that they've managed to get DXGI working on Vulkan, though I wonder if that brings a smaller/larger/same latency than Windows, and if it's lower, if the same benefits could be achieved with DXVK under Windows.

Vulkan is just a better API in general. Fuck DirectX tbh
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Sounds like it's not compatible with Gamescope or Wayland, they seem to think SteamOS uses Wayland on desktop mode and I was under the impression it actually used X11
 
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