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The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
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Kinda forced to, at the moment, because RTX 50xx GPUs only officially work nvidia-open, and Arch is the most painless option for it. Still NVK sucks, and I don't see how RedHat trannies fix it any time soon.
I've tried Void and have had nothing but issues with the touchpad firmware deciding not to load after reboots, or the internet randomly going out. I don't think it's a hardware issue since it never happened on Alpine. Non-systemds distros almost always have manual intervention quirks systemd distros don't have, and that can waste a lot of unnecessary time.
Speaking of edge cases, I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Devuan.
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The "improved" file-roller is fucking dog shit. I used it for years because it integrated smoothly into PCManFM, now half the functionality has been stripped out...for reasons?? You used to be able to select a compression level for formats that supported it too. And of course the gui is i a big ugly gnome window too.
I'm so sick of good software being de-evolved into crapware.
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Like what?
And the void thing sounds unlucky, I guess. I never experienced anything like that with it. It was pretty much like my experience with arch, which is to say. Things tended to just work. Outside of using their musl version at least.
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Take the OFM pill, where your file manager is an archive manager, and it handles archives much like folders. Double Commander, Krusader, Midnight Commander, choose your poison.
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Are those distros compatible with systemd unit files so installing stuff that's outside of distro maintained repos tends to work? I'd like to try S6 but my current setup justworks™
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I would never advise anyone to leave a setup that currently works for them for one that *might* work for them.
Unless you are, like me, an autist and have multiple cheapo side PCs set up just for tinkering with whatever distro you are currently hyperfixated on.
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The only thing that has s6 that I know of is artix. At least that can be set up for you by default. With artix. Generally they have the service scripts available for you. But you need to make sure you install the networkmanager-s6 or dhcpcd-runit, or whatever package -whatever init. Otherwise you won't get the scripts. And the aur actually does tend to have alt-init packages available.
All this said. You would really need to look at what you need, and if those will be available. The things I've needed with alt inits generally are already included in the packages. And things that would be systemd timers generally get installed as system cron jobs. So you just need to make sure you set up and enable a crown implementation when you install the distro.
All that said. The only thing you really gain from not using systemd, is not using systemd.
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Bazzite's July 2025 update (archived) replaced KDE Discover with Bazaar (archived), a GNOME/GTK4 Flatpak app store that had its first pre-release two weeks ago.
To say the software is premature is an understatement: among many issues, there's no way to filter searches by category, no Permissions section, not even an Updates tab! But it has a Downloads chart
Some people (archived) are pissed at Ublue's "break it, update it!" method (they did it with Bluefin too), switching apps and uninstalling old ones they were used to. I'm pretty pissed too. If this keeps up, I'm switching distros. I don't need a wannabe Microsoft doing shit like this.
To say the software is premature is an understatement: among many issues, there's no way to filter searches by category, no Permissions section, not even an Updates tab! But it has a Downloads chart
Some people (archived) are pissed at Ublue's "break it, update it!" method (they did it with Bluefin too), switching apps and uninstalling old ones they were used to. I'm pretty pissed too. If this keeps up, I'm switching distros. I don't need a wannabe Microsoft doing shit like this.
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Wait, Bazzite doesn't support rpms?
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My understanding is that it was built on rpm-ostree (like a Fedora Atomic image) and is immutable, unlike a typical desktop OS.
The only real way to install packages on these is Flatpaks.
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It does with rpm-ostree, but it's very slow and they want to replace it with bootc. Flatpak is Bazzite's recommended method of installing apps.
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What's really the point of an immutable distro if you must maintain it like any other distro with only the added difficulty of dealing with a read only system? I personally don't get it.
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In fairness, that's the way all KDE file managers worked thanks to the beauty of kdeio since KDE 2 at least, if not back to KDE 1. Wouldn't be surprised if they managed to ruin it in future of course. Wouldn't it be better if systemd handled all access to files?
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Shh! Don't give Red Hat ideas!
Waiting for the day that a new systemd module called "systemd-linuxd" comes out and replaces the Linux kernel with systemd.
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It's a Linux desktop for niggers, mixed with Android in a half-assed way while also failing to be a ChromeOS equivalent.
Oh, and given the use of a cloud build system on github/gitlab, I can see this being another avenue for vendor lock-in. Splendid!
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Immutable distros are inherently vendor locked. SteamOS? Vendor Locked and hardware locked. Bazzite? Well whoever makes Bazzite. They seem terrible for personal use. However they seem brilliant for hardware vendors or IT departments in enterprise settings.
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He appeared at a Linux convention fairly recently. Surprisingly, they published a recording of the talk.
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immutable/atomic distros are the thing I really don't see the point of. Of all the newer movements in the Linux world. At least not the way they are being pushed as some answer to the Linux for normies question.
It seems like they are just asking for wierd edge cases. That would be much harder to solve for people. At least if you are on mint have a problem and someone asks for help. Someone can likely give them a command to blindly type into the terminal and probably fix what's wrong. I feel like if something isn't working in one of these atomic distros people will be truly at the mercy of the maintainers. Unless you actually know what you are doing. And that defeats the purpose of it in the first place.
Not to mention, I see it as starting to take away what makes Linux great. The true freedom to do whatever you want.
Wayland it's newer the ecosystem isn't where as good as xorg's yet. But at least it is trying to be the answer to the problems left behind from xorg not really being made to work the way modern computing is done. Even if it has it's own problems. At least currently.
And systemd was actually an answer to a lot of problems, and shortcomings left behind by the init systems and service managers before it. Even if it has it's own shortcomings too.
I just don't see the real benefit of these immutable distros. Like I can for the other more controversial things in the Linux world. At least the way they are talked about by the people that shill them. I think is complete bullshit.
Nix is a bit different. And is covering a completely different side of things. Normal people shouldn't use nix obviously. But it has it's place.
