The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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I'm going to use it for normie shit like browsing and light office usage, nothing more nothing less. Is this distro good enough for me? Is there anything I should know? Thanks!
Yeah Ubuntu is great for that, its effectively 1:1 with a vanilla Windows 10 install in terms of basic tooling for stuff like writing usb sticks and office stuff, which will be LibreOffice which is installed by default I believe. Ubuntu is trying to solve the dependency issue by cramming everything into containers it calls snaps. In the Linux world most libraries are shared between programs, no point in reinventing the wheel -- in the Windows world these are called DLL files, which are just dumped into the folder along with the program executables -- but in the Unix world they're just thrown into a singular folder under /usr/bin or a few other locations for rebels who just are too cool for school. In extremely rare circumstances two programs on your box will need the same package as a dependency, but one version will want version >2.0 and another version will want 1.99 and prior because 2.0 broke userspace. These days such dependency chain conflicts are exceptionally rare, but they do occur. Ubuntu decided to stuff the program into a container with the dependencies the developer selected and screw all this sharing shit, taking a page out of Apple's book with its .App shtick, but the problem is, Snaps are essentially unique to Ubuntu so when you encounter issues your only reference point is the Ubuntu community. This is the pain point @NumberingYourState was talking about.

My path in Linux started with Ubuntu in 2012 when I raged quit Windows because of how 8 looked, I suspected them to continously lean into the tablet look more and more and leave desktop computing behind, something they've somewhat done to a degree. I used Ubuntu for maybe a year then switched to Linux Mint to try out the Cinnamon desktop environment as envisioned by the developers before I heard of Arch Linux and specifically the AUR. I had grown tired of adding in PPA into APT for this or that program and the AUR was the solution. I switched over to Arch in maybe 2013-2014 and never left. Thats not to say I didn't dabble with Linux since the late 90s, but only in 2012 did it finally click and I began to use it full time as a replacement for Windows.
 
Thanks for the tips folks :), so far the experience is miles better than Windows. The only con so far is that I'm going to stick with GIMP for image editing, which I don't know how to use. I used paint.net on Windows, but whatever, I guess it won't be too hard getting used to it.

Also thanks for the heads up about the dependency thing, I'll keep that in mind.
 
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Thanks for the tips folks :), so far the experience is miles better than Windows. The only con so far is that I'm going to stick with GIMP for image editing, which I don't know how to use. I used paint.net on Windows, but whatever, I guess it won't be too hard getting used to it.

Also thanks for the heads up about the dependency thing, I'll keep that in mind.
Honestly I'd say disto hop for a hot minute. Since you just started and aren't too locked in there's no harm in trying other distros.

I'm still new to this shit and I still get frustrated, but I'm enjoying the learning process. I started on Mint Cinnamon as well, and outside of driver bullshit I enjoyed it. If I stuck with a Debian based distro I would've kept it.

Personally I enjoy the KDE Plasma experience a lot and enjoy it outside of some quirks, but I kinda have to learn this in time for the Steam Deck

Give Kubuntu a try at least and see how you like it.
 
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Yeah I have to second Kubuntu, if you absolutely cannot visually part from Windows 10, KDE Plasma is everything Win10 wishes it was.
 
Hey I'm trying to install Devuan but I keep getting please install non-free firmwares:
iwlwifi-7565D-22.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-23.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-24.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-25.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-26.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-27.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-28.ucode
iwlwifi-7565D-29.ucode
Anyone know where to get these firmwares and install them?
 
You have to enable the non-free repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list (I think, I'm just going off memory from Debian) this may require you to google the urls for it. Sometimes you get alerts for firmware for stuff you don't own or need, I know pacman on Arch would bitch about missing firmware whether you had the parts or not, so you may not need to install anything at all. I don't really know anything about Devuan other than it being a meme distro looking backwards rather than forward. Systemd isn't that bad if your distribution keeps it limited to the 3 base components. Its the ever expanding mess and dependency on systemd features that become a problem.

I don't want to be rude, but if you're unable to resolve a simple issue like that I question if you have the skillset to handle a meme grognard distro. Though I suppose bashing your head against the wall is a way to learn stuff the hard way.
 
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I don't want to be rude, but if you're unable to resolve a simple issue like that I question if you have the skillset to handle a meme grognard distro.
That's not quite fair, this is an actual bug in the ISOs. They intended for them to be there but only some of the installer ISOs actually have it.
@Smolrolls, I believe you need to use the "desktop" installer ISO that includes everything and the kitchen sink, in order to get the wifi firmware. Chimaera seems to be better about this than Beowulf.
Also, I believe Devuan won't automatically install wireless-regdb for your wifi card, you should do that yourself once you get set up.

EDIT: but if you genuinely do need to download a Devuan package, use:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/index.html
Don't use packages from other distros or you'll come to grief.
 
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I have this bar at the top of my screen that won't go away no matter what I do and it's driving me crazy. Configuring panels does nothing. Manjaro KDE

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Edit: Never mind I got it the thing was just being a fag.
 
You have to enable the non-free repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list (I think, I'm just going off memory from Debian) this may require you to google the urls for it. Sometimes you get alerts for firmware for stuff you don't own or need, I know pacman on Arch would bitch about missing firmware whether you had the parts or not, so you may not need to install anything at all. I don't really know anything about Devuan other than it being a meme distro looking backwards rather than forward. Systemd isn't that bad if your distribution keeps it limited to the 3 base components. Its the ever expanding mess and dependency on systemd features that become a problem.

I don't want to be rude, but if you're unable to resolve a simple issue like that I question if you have the skillset to handle a meme grognard distro. Though I suppose bashing your head against the wall is a way to learn stuff the hard way.
Not rude at all, you just gave me a measuring stick in how much I need to learn.
That's not quite fair, this is an actual bug in the ISOs. They intended for them to be there but only some of the installer ISOs actually have it.
@Smolrolls, I believe you need to use the "desktop" installer ISO that includes everything and the kitchen sink, in order to get the wifi firmware. Chimaera seems to be better about this than Beowulf.
Also, I believe Devuan won't automatically install wireless-regdb for your wifi card, you should do that yourself once you get set up.
Desktop-live installer or ISO installer?

Do you use Rufus to burn Devuan into USB?
 
Desktop-live installer or ISO installer?

Do you use Rufus to burn Devuan into USB?
I'd use the "desktop" ISO installer for Chimaera. I did use Rufus to burn it to USB in GPT mode.
I figure you might as well go with Chimaera over Beowulf, the underlying Debian version has already been released and I haven't run into any issues with the beta at this late stage.
 
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So I decided to be fully autistic and I installed Ubuntu to my main PC. This is not my first time toying around with Linux, but I'm planning on fully replacing Windoze 10 with it.

Soo, any tips and tricks for a noob like me?

I don't really game that much nowadays so I don't care about performance and shit like that.

I'm going to use it for normie shit like browsing and light office usage, nothing more nothing less. Is this distro good enough for me? Is there anything I should know? Thanks!
If you're going with obongo (which is okay) just use PopOS. It already gets rid of snaps and sets up nvidia drivers
 
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So I've been seeing and hearing good things about Zorin OS lately, looks like a very comfy, normie-friendly OS. Even as far as posing as a fantastic alternative to the upcoming Win11.

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Also seems like a great alternative for old retro PCs.
 
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I have to sperg out over this because seriously, what the fuck?

I go download retroarch. Installs just fine it seems. Then, when I start it up, I go to select a rom and when it asks me what core I want to use, I don't see anything. I think "oh I forgot to download them", so I look around the options and there isn't an option. What the fuck?

After looking around online, it turns out you have to turn on an option to to download cores. Fucking stupid but okay, I do that. STILL, I can't seem to find or load up any cores. It turns out that RA will refuse to download and store cores under its default directories, because I think they go into root(???). So after changing their directories into my games folders it finally gets those cores going.

I'm starting to feel like a broken record, but this shit is why Linux only grows through Microsoft's incompetence. I get that this issue isn't with the OS itself, but it legitimately boggles my mind that so many devs seem to intentionally gimp their stuff. Why is the default directory something that doesn't even work in the first place? Why do I need to toggle a setting for what is arguably the single most important aspect of your program?
 
Random question: does anyone know what triggers Aptitude to sometimes ask permission before installing packages? I've had small packages ask, while large packages will install straight away, so it's not download size.
 
Random question: does anyone know what triggers Aptitude to sometimes ask permission before installing packages?
I had no idea either, but this piqued my curiosity so I went to find out.
https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/aptitude/-/blob/debian-sid/src/cmdline/cmdline_prompt.cc#L1001
https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/aptitude/-/blob/debian-sid/src/cmdline/cmdline_prompt.cc#L622

Roughly, if there are no packages being added, removed, or upgraded that you didn't explicitly request, and you're not breaking anything, then it won't prompt.
 
Hey, anyone here try Fedora Silverblue? Immutability in an OS sounds pretty appealing for deployment, and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with anything like it at all, and what their thoughts are.
 
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