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I think there's some way to use the hwclock command to tell Linux your RTC is something other than UTC, but it never seems to "take" for me.
'cause there's an extra step with systemd

hwclock --systohc --localtime
timedatectl set-local-rtc 1

If you're dual booting and something starts changing your time after that then who knows, turn ntp off maybe
 
So I finally got a charger cord for my tiny netbook running a way old version of Kali. I'm trying to update OTA but I keep getting yelled at about held packages even though I've unheld everything. I know one of the issues is that it's polling the wrong server, but I can fix that issue.

Apt-get upgrade returns this: https://pastebin.com/gmvRcsLh
Failure is in last few lines, obviously.
 
Apt-get upgrade returns this: https://pastebin.com/gmvRcsLh
Failure is in last few lines, obviously.
The issue seems to be here specifically:
Setting up initscripts (2.96-7) ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/initscripts.postinst: 8: .: Can't open /lib/init/vars.sh

Apparently vars.sh is in sysvinit-utils rather than initscripts, so it might not be able to find vars.sh because sysvinit-utils is (somehow?) not there. I guess you could try a apt-get install sysvinit or something? Odd that it wouldn't be already installed though if it's crucial to the update process.
 
Thanks, I'll check that out tomorrow. I might just isousb the whole new version, but I need my n rainbow library. 12gb .txt file with almost every word and permutation! Brute force best friend right there.
 
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Ok, so it didn't turn out as simple but i'm fingers crossed this is actually going to update. @Knight of the Rope that code threw the same error but it pointed me towards looking through DPKG.

ended up running sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/intifiles.* /tmp
followed by a standard apt-get upgrade. Most of the errors I see now are based on the fact that Kali killed easy Root mode so the sec settings are being dicked with.

This is the longest I've gotten it to run update tho so that's n autoplus.
 
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I really like the debian installer darkmode
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im doing some presneeding for handsoff installations on a couple of servers
 
Been using xfce for years, last few years with a dual screen setup (monitor and laptop to the right as the secondary screen). Move house and change the setup a little, laptop to the left of the main monitor because of the way my new desk is set up. No matter what i do with the settings the left screen is always the main screen with menu bar and shit and its really fucking annoying constantly mousing over to the laptop screen to access the menu, open shit or click on a different window. After a bit of searching turns out this is a 10+ year old bug in xfce. reeeeeeeee

I don't want to be messing around with workarounds for something that should work in any DE in 2021. Guess its time for me to finally try cinnamon or something.
 
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Does Arch Linux even have a legitimate use case that isn't just ricing or boasting about using it on Reddit? I haven't actually met anyone IRL who consistently uses Vanilla Arch as a daily driver for anything work/play-related. But surely they'd have to exist, right?

Use an LTS distro with the associated older packages, I can get behind Arch's philosophy but it's only for those who have the patience to get their hands dirty.
 
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Use an LTS distro with the associated older packages, I can get behind Arch's philosophy but it's only for those who have the patience to get their hands dirty.
this, there are people that want it and somewhere down the line has to deal with bleeding edge, least this way they can stay in their own playground. necessary "evil".
 
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Does Arch Linux even have a legitimate use case that isn't just ricing or boasting about using it on Reddit? I haven't actually met anyone IRL who consistently uses Vanilla Arch as a daily driver for anything work/play-related. But surely they'd have to exist, right?
I switched from Debian to Arch about a year ago. Arch "just works" even better than Debian after configuration. I've broken and unbroken about three or four different Debian installs in the time I've been running Arch on my main desktop. I'm at 8 or 9 years of Linux-primary usage, including a lot of development time/experience. Most of that was on Debian (typically sid, though I've used testing and stable on web servers etc). I think I first started running Linux on a VPS web server about 15 years ago now. I've rolled a few of my own distros, though never really distributed them, so the configuration hurdle really wasn't for me. Arch is very sane, but it does presume that you know what you're doing. If you don't know what you're doing, I guess Manjaro is the flavor for you.

If you're a coder and you think like a coder, Arch is a thing of beauty. It refuses to hold your hand. Its predictable and uncompromising value system has really converted me. Even Gentoo doesn't think the same way.

That said, I am currently playing around with Void, as I think that replacing glibc with musl is one of the next big iterations in the Linux space, and nowhere is musl as broadly supported as in Void. Not running Void on the daily though!
 
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Does Arch Linux even have a legitimate use case that isn't just ricing or boasting about using it on Reddit? I haven't actually met anyone IRL who consistently uses Vanilla Arch as a daily driver for anything work/play-related. But surely they'd have to exist, right?
Best I can come up with is someone who:
  • wants a rolling distribution (so your machine runs the latest kernel, etc.)
  • wants to use systemd (or doesn't want to use OpenRC)
  • doesn't want to use a distribution that's intimate with IBM or SUSE
  • doesn't want to spend CPU time compiling from source
Of course, most people who use Arch as a daily driver aren't going to post about it. But (by definition) all people who use Arch so they can boast about it on Reddit do post about it.

Or as I call it, Linux-GNU.

Some people like to acknowledge both the operating system and kernel when they talk about their computers, so they might say they use “GNU/Linux” or “GNU/Hurd”. Other people seem to think that the kernel is the most important part of the system, so they like to call their GNU operating systems “Linux systems.”

I, personally, believe that this is a grave injustice, because the boot loader is the most important software of all. I used to refer to the above systems as either “LILO”5 or “GRUB” systems.

Unfortunately, nobody ever understood what I was talking about; now I just use the word “GNU” as a pseudonym for GRUB.

So, if you ever hear people talking about their alleged “GNU” systems, remember that they are actually paying homage to the best boot loader around… GRUB!
 
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Does Arch Linux even have a legitimate use case that isn't just ricing or boasting about using it on Reddit? I haven't actually met anyone IRL who consistently uses Vanilla Arch as a daily driver for anything work/play-related. But surely they'd have to exist, right?
I'm only using it because steamOS will be using arch, so might as well see what I can learn now.

Although I guess learning KDEplasma is more important.
 
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