The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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or KDE if i have enough ram, shes a hungry bitch
I'm currently using 3 GB of RAM with a browser and 10+ tabs, spotify, discover, syncthing, mulvad gui, a couple dolphin file manager windows and a few terminals open. KDE isn't what it used to be.
 

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KDE if you want something closer to a modern windows user friendly experience.

XFCE if you feel like going back to a time like the 1990s with Windows 95s GUI.

XFCE is fine for me because my requirements are minimal, as a criticism I've noted that the whisker menu has a rather janky look, in fact both menu options look and feel janky, so I just kind of use the keyboard to summon the appfinder because it works.
 
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The last time I tried KDE a few years ago I had a bunch of issues with it. All of them I looked up and were known issues. First is with a second monitor in which the taskbar randomly disappeared. Also sometimes the taskbar will resize itself and it's unintuitive to use compared to the simple windows of Gnome.
I think I tried XFCE even longer ago and I don't remember what I thought of it.
My current machine has 24 GB RAM (I had 8 extra lying around) so I'm not very concerned with RAM usage.
 
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The last time I tried KDE a few years ago I had a bunch of issues with it. All of them I looked up and were known issues. First is with a second monitor in which the taskbar randomly disappeared. Also sometimes the taskbar will resize itself and it's unintuitive to use compared to the simple windows of Gnome.
I think I tried XFCE even longer ago and I don't remember what I thought of it.
My current machine has 24 GB RAM (I had 8 extra lying around) so I'm not very concerned with RAM usage.
Try KDE again. I had issues with frame tearing, compositor borking with nvidia drivers, text and dpi issues on a 1440p monitor and the like. With the latest version all those seem to be fixed and it's basically and turn key DE.
 
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Try KDE again. I had issues with frame tearing, compositor borking with nvidia drivers, text and dpi issues on a 1440p monitor and the like. With the latest version all those seem to be fixed and it's basically and turn key DE.
Maybe sometime. I don't really switch DEs unless I'm doing a new system install
 
I'm currently using 3 GB of RAM with a browser and 10+ tabs, spotify, discover, syncthing, mulvad gui, a couple dolphin file manager windows and a few terminals open. KDE isn't what it used to be.
I think it mostly got its bloated reputation from akonadi (the indexing daemon) since its RAM and I/O usage was absolutely ridiculous around the KDE 4 era.

These days it runs pretty well even on potatoes.
 
I think it mostly got its bloated reputation from akonadi (the indexing daemon) since its RAM and I/O usage was absolutely ridiculous around the KDE 4 era.

These days it runs pretty well even on potatoes.
Akonadi is still around and still awful.
I wanted to try KMail but I refuse to run a whole fucking MySQL server, which Akonadi needs, for it.
 
Thank god I'm testing the waters with floating window manager only setups, gnome is painful.
I'm a big fan of Openbox+LXQt. If you install just lxqt-* without the lxqt metapackage you get a very nice Win95-like desktop environment with no bloat.
It seems to me that if you cut any further and use no DE at all you'll end up either reinventing a bunch of wheels or going without useful conveniences.

This is you:
Well, if the shoe fits...
 
Apparently Debian 11 is walking back toward "init diversity" somewhat, and providing some level of support for non-systemd inits:

It sounds like actually operating without systemd on Bullseye would still be something of a stilt-walking shambles though.
soystem-d fags on suicide watch
 
Now that it's become stable, has anyone tried Debian Bullseye yet? What are your first impressions?
Still on Debian 10 here. 11 looks nice but I tend to wait about 6 months after a release to make sure they fix all the initial fuckups. Before doing major version upgrades I like to boot off a CloneZilla USB stick and image all of my boot drives so I can dd them back to how they were in the event of a disaster. I have a cron job that runs rsync on certain directories once a week but those backups aren't bootable.

Linux is a huge pain in the ass but there's no alternative for me.
 
It sounds like actually operating without systemd on Bullseye would still be something of a stilt-walking shambles though.
Which underlines the entire problem with the push to systemd in the first place. It is heavily integrated into a bunch of otherwise unrelated components. That level of tight integration prevents user choice, which debian was supposed to be about from its inception.
 
Apparently Debian 11 is walking back toward "init diversity" somewhat, and providing some level of support for non-systemd inits:

It sounds like actually operating without systemd on Bullseye would still be something of a stilt-walking shambles though.
Good to see. Although, this is only happening because the Devuan folks are shaming them for their crimes.
 
Is Devuan actually catching significant market share from Debian? Don't get me wrong I'd love it if that was the case but......
 
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