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on launchers. If you run wayland at least, and you don't know what a shell script is. Walker is pretty good. If you know how to script, dmenu is actually really nice. You don't have to spend hours reading the man page, or about the configuration language it uses to change the way it's laid out. It has a few flags to change the way information is showed, or the style. Or more ideally, you can just configure it the way was intended to be configured, by editing the config.h and recompiling. Which sounds difficult if you've never heard the word compile before, but it's way easier than setting up rofi's config.

But wayland is actually where all the more full featured menus are. Like wofi. I would rather use it than rofi, if I have the choice. The config is laid out better, you use css to change the style which is an improvement in this case. And most importantly it has a dmenu mode. So anyone halfway compitent can make it do anything you want.

Overly Serious said:
So all the core utils in the Rust version are actually just one binary with lots of hard links to it under every name. Call it sort and it will behave like sort
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I mean, that is the method busybox took, so they aren't doing anything unique there. I believe you can actually compile the gnu coretutils to all be one binary also. Although most of the time when people want to save space they just go with busybox.

Kiwifarmsname said:
outside of installing Nivida drivers to get my second monitor to work and fiddling switch steam to try to get some games to work.
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how did you install the nvidia drivers?
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
on launchers. If you run wayland at least, and you don't know what a shell script is. Walker is pretty good. If you know how to script, dmenu is actually really nice. You don't have to spend hours reading the man page, or about the configuration language it uses to change the way it's laid out. It has a few flags to change the way information is showed, or the style. Or more ideally, you can just configure it the way was intended to be configured, by editing the config.h and recompiling. Which sounds difficult if you've never heard the word compile before, but it's way easier than setting up rofi's config.

But wayland is actually where all the more full featured menus are. Like wofi. I would rather use it than rofi, if I have the choice. The config is laid out better, you use css to change the style which is an improvement in this case. And most importantly it has a dmenu mode. So anyone halfway compitent can make it do anything you want.


I mean, that is the method busybox took, so they aren't doing anything unique there. I believe you can actually compile the gnu coretutils to all be one binary also. Although most of the time when people want to save space they just go with busybox.


how did you install the nvidia drivers?
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I installed the nivida drivers through the official app. They are the official ones too.
 
Saying that a keyboard launcher is useless because you can do everything it does in a shell is the same as saying that a desktop environment is useless because you can do everything you could do in it in a shell.

Yet no one who ever glorifies their shell as the be-all-end-all of computing would live without any form of window compositor. Even though they could since they can do everything in their shell, even browse web with Lynx. Funny that.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
I installed the nivida drivers through the official app. They are the official ones too.
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what official app? mints "app store" thing?

hopefully that's what you mean. because if it was nvidias. that could potentially be what went wrong. You don't want to install drivers on linux the way you do on windows.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
Yeah it was in the default Nivida panel.
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I'm assuming that means nvidias app.

That's almost certainly why it won't boot then. If there was nothing else you did.

NEVER install drivers for linux from anything outside of the repo where you got your kernel, unless you are compiling them manually. If it loads a driver that's compiled for the wrong kernel, it's going to cause problems like the ones you are experiencing.

I'm not a mint user, and I don't use nvidia, but at least in mint's app store, you should be able to install them. since it just pulls in programs from apt, and from flapak. Generally speaking, unlike windows you will almost never need to install drivers at all. GPU's are a rare case where it can be different though. But you still will never want to to go from nvidia directly, or any other gpu provider for that matter.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I'm assuming that means nvidias app.

That's almost certainly why it won't boot then. If there was nothing else you did.

NEVER install drivers for linux from anything outside of the repo where you got your kernel, unless you are compiling them manually. If it loads a driver that's compiled for the wrong kernel, it's going to cause problems like the ones you are experiencing.

I'm not a mint user, and I don't use nvidia, but at least in mint's app store, you should be able to install them. since it just pulls in programs from apt, and from flapak. Generally speaking, unlike windows you will almost never need to install drivers at all. GPU's are a rare case where it can be different though. But you still will never want to to go from nvidia directly, or any other gpu provider for that matter.
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That's retarded as hell.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
I installed the nivida drivers through the official app. They are the official ones too.
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If it's an nvidia driver issue and if the PC seems to go past the boot screens but then is just a black screen, then you could try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F3 to swap to the terminal screen. If that works then you enter in your username and password to login and can start entering commands. You could probably manually uninstall the nvidia drivers from there, and reinstall the default graphical driver so after a reboot things will be working again.

Though if you already have everything backed up, you might consider doing a fresh OS install be less trouble.
 
Since I apparently hate you all...
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...found this on /g/. It's happening.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
If it's an nvidia driver issue and if the PC seems to go past the boot screens but then is just a black screen, then you could try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F3 to swap to the terminal screen. If that works then you enter in your username and password to login and can start entering commands. You could probably manually uninstall the nvidia drivers from there, and reinstall the default graphical driver so after a reboot things will be working again.

Though if you already have everything backed up, you might consider doing a fresh OS install be less trouble.
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I'm going to try to reinstall Windows I think. Probably Windows 10 but whenever I try to install it asks for drivers but doesn't read them from my drive.
 
Slav Power said:
Yet no one who ever glorifies their shell as the be-all-end-all of computing would live without any form of window compositor
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It's actually the shell command line that is obsolete as a user interface, and the shell program only has value as a command interpreter. Commands should be written in and executed straight from the text editor, since writing commands and handling their output is a text processing task.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
That's retarded as hell.
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Yeah, using a companies app for drivers that mainly focus on making the drivers for windows, to install drivers the way you install drivers on Windows while you are running linux is retarded as hell, you're right.

Especially when you have an app that comes with the distro, that will do all the work for you. And wont brick your system, unlike nvidias shit.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
Yeah, using a companies app for drivers that mainly focus on making the drivers for windows, to install drivers the way you install drivers on Windows while you are running linux is retarded as hell, you're right.

Especially when you have an app that comes with the distro, that will do all the work for you. And wont brick your system, unlike nvidias shit.
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I didn't use the company app I used the pre installed Mint app?
 
Dead Lion said:
I like Denshi's stuff. He makes guides for a lot of random software, mostly server stuff. You really don't need much to install most of these things. Set up an XMPP server and pester your friends to move from der 'cord and then try to stop them from uploading warrior.png
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ya ive already migrated everyone over from discord to other platforms, i don't have an account anymore
i got dillo running for extremely basic web browsing and an snes emulator for fun so now im looking at setting up some programs and software toys
ricing icewm i think is gonna be the hardest thing as im not a ricist so id have to learn how icewm works and what kind of theme to go for
 
cigint said:
It's actually the shell command line that is obsolete as a user interface, and the shell program only has value as a command interpreter. Commands should be written in and executed straight from the text editor, since writing commands and handling their output is a text processing task.
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Guess which OS did this already?
You can also do this inside Acme (plan 9 text editor) iirc.

Dread First said:
Stares in TempleOS DolDoc HolyC JIT shell

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TempleOS had some genuinely neat UI concepts. The idea of everything, and I mean everything, being represented as a rich text document, with embeddable images, diagrams, hyperlinks, and lest we forget, 3D models, is really interesting, and Terry put a lot of work into making it relatively easy to make your own DolDoc interfaces. I think there’s a lot that the wider world of OSes can learn (unironically) from TempleOS, and DolDoc is a prime example of that.
 
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