The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[gildersleeve]

I've been using running Xlibre since Artix came prepackaged with it and I was tired of using debian for the last 17 years. The only issue I encountered with it was an update that I had to roll back to an older version as the maintainer pushed a broken update that disabled my entire desktop, had my cursor rendering at a 45° angle and would only display the filthiest resolution I've seen (I could only see my desktop because my main monitor is a CRT). It came right back with everything where it should be after said rollback.
Said issue has been fixed and now we're back to version 25.0.0 iirc.
Genuinely good software that just works™

 

[Pluciferous]

it's very likely going to make no difference. The only way I've ever seen a real change in performance is configuring, and compiling the kernel myself. Otherwise it's almost certainly going to be imperceptible. And I would only recommend configuring, and building your own kernel if you actually want to learn how to do that, if you are doing it to chase performance, but don't care about it otherwise it probably won't be worth your time.

So basically unless you want to build a custom kernel you've configured yourself, removed everything you don't need, and options that hurt performance, and then compile it for your specific hardware, just pick either the plain kernel, or zen. Flip a coin between those two for which you should use.

I also configure and build my own kernels, but I see security as the primary benefit. Folks are constantly finding nasty security vulnerabilities in the Linux kernel, but if you haven’t even compiled the vulnerable code into your kernel, you don’t have to worry.

 

[GlowyNigger]

Elementary OS is what I've stuck with for awhile. Love the Pantheon desktop.

I too have Elementary OS on one of my laptops. I'm currently testing various distros but this one kinda caught my eye. I want to get away from Winslop, so looking for a real desktop replacement.

I also liked "Pop!_OS", and Fedora. But so far, Elementary has piqued my interest the most.

 

[Betonhaus]

I've been using running Xlibre since Artix came prepackaged with it and I was tired of using debian for the last 17 years. The only issue I encountered with it was an update that I had to roll back to an older version as the maintainer pushed a broken update that disabled my entire desktop, had my cursor rendering at a 45° angle and would only display the filthiest resolution I've seen (I could only see my desktop because my main monitor is a CRT). It came right back with everything where it should be after said rollback.
Said issue has been fixed and now we're back to version 25.0.0 iirc.
Genuinely good software that just works™

It would be nice to get Xlibre added to the Debian Sid repository. Looks like they have an "XStrikeForce" team dedicated to maintaining Xorg for Debian, but they have almost no online presence and I could only find the contact information for one guy. Which is promising as it could mean that they don't involve themselves with woke nonsense and would seriously consider it, but it means that only someone that's a main part of the project can poke them and ask if they're interested.

 

[Ferryman]

Thoughts on Quickshell? I'm trying to minmax performance as much as I can with Hyprland and I'm thinking of configuring everything with Quickshell instead of relying on Waybar/Rofi/Mako/Hyprpaper etc.; it jives pretty nicely with how Guix handles system declarations & customization, but I'm not sure if it will reduce or increase overhead. All the configs I can find are super riced out, but haven't seen any actual performance comparisons.

 

[RacistComputer79]

If it gets passed.

People really should be chimping out about this as much as possible right now while there is time.

Contacting the lawmakers that proposed it. The ones that will vote. Posting shit on every platform saying to do the same.

There have been some really bad laws that have been proposed or went into effect sincr 2024-2025ish but this is by far the worst. At least in america.

Also i already had this in my clipboard to post in the open source thread. Ill embed it hete since i wrote this.

How do you implement this feature for users who use older versions of linux/windows? I haven't made an update in 4 years lol, sounds easy to get around it if I just use older OS versions

 

[babaisyou]

How true is this claim about the distro/kernel/DE/compositor combo?

Oh this guy, completely unhinged, the vast majority of his contributions to X11Libre were directly from CodeQL and they were either false alarms or closed out of nowhere. The X11Libre people are working on HDR support albeit progress is slow but even his comments on that discussion just screams of LLM.

 

[seri0us]

my main monitor is a CRT

Why?

 

[Rust Troony]

How true is this claim about the distro/kernel/DE/compositor combo?

Pure niggerbabble speak.

KDE with wayland natively supports HDR in every sense, even with proton games.

Wayland allows you to enable screen tearing on fullscreen apps.

Xlibre has not had more features committed in 6 months. 95% of the work done has been moving around and cleaning code, which is expected.

zen kernel is a meme that hasn't been necessary since 2 years ago when the linux kernel switched schedulers to a faster one.

Gaming on Xlibre vs Wayland on CS2 has been almost equal, if not slightly in waylands favor, which is bad, because CS2 doesn't really support wayland out of the box. Even older games like TF2 ran better through xwayland for some reason.

Sonic desktop hasn't done much except remove wayland and wayland optimizations from the upstream code. distro doesn't really matter in terms of performance outside how new packages are.

Bazzite is a tranny distro and should be destroyed, Ubuntu hired a known pedophile. Thats about all thats true in here.

I only use Xlibre because I want Wayland to be 100% ready. The only thing i'm waiting on is for my kde theme to fully support it and steam/wine to switch to it.

 

[Valis Wade]

Elementary OS

I wouldn't use just another Ubuntu LTS fork that tries to look like MacOS yet fail really hard at it.
And with this being the lead dev.

 

[Battlefield42]

I wouldn't use just another Ubuntu LTS fork that tries to look like MacOS yet fail really hard at it.
And with this being the lead dev.
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[August Levasseur]

Thoughts on Quickshell? I'm trying to minmax performance as much as I can with Hyprland and I'm thinking of configuring everything with Quickshell instead of relying on Waybar/Rofi/Mako/Hyprpaper etc.; it jives pretty nicely with how Guix handles system declarations & customization, but I'm not sure if it will reduce or increase overhead. All the configs I can find are super riced out, but haven't seen any actual performance comparisons.

Are you having actual performance issues with any of these or are you falling victim to the minimalism mind virus? As a fellow sufferer, I can tell you that if you keep indulging it, you’re going to end up a long, long way down from Hyprland, down in the slums of the dwm-alikes. Configuring your OS by rewriting header files and recompiling from scratch, complaining about anything not programmed in pvre unadulterated C99, sneeding about GNU being bloated, and filling your heart with sadness at the obscurity of Plan 9. It’s a long way down, and you won’t recognize yourself by the time you hit the bottom.

 

[Pluciferous]

Are you having actual performance issues with any of these or are you falling victim to the minimalism mind virus? As a fellow sufferer, I can tell you that if you keep indulging it, you’re going to end up a long, long way down from Hyprland, down in the slums of the dwm-alikes. Configuring your OS by rewriting header files and recompiling from scratch, complaining about anything not programmed in pvre unadulterated C99, sneeding about GNU being bloated, and filling your heart with sadness at the obscurity of Plan 9. It’s a long way down, and you won’t recognize yourself by the time you hit the bottom.

Sometimes I wonder if messages like this are posted by Microsoft’s marketing team, to try to minimize the number of people who reduce the size of their kernel, reduce the size and number of dynamic libraries loaded in by their most commonly used programs, and tweak their sysctls. That way there are fewer people who compare the speed of their Windows installation and their Linux installation and laugh their ass off.

 

[gildersleeve]

Why?

I like them, I could sperg about my late model LaCie Electron Blues image quality. My preference for 4:3, 5:4 & 3:2 aspect ratio's. But really it's because I like them. I also play older games frequently, so being able to switch to the resolutions supported at the time and not have it look like a blocky mess is nice. Same goes for emulation. Additionally I'm used to the color when I'm touching up and editing scans of film and print media with CRT's
If they made a decent 4:3 or 3:2 27" or larger monitor with a resolution of 2560x1440 or higher with a minimum of 85hz refresh rate or higher I would switch but those don't really exist at a price point I'm willing to pay as I'm a cheap ass when it comes to getting electronics outside of a recycling center.
My other monitor is a 1080p viewsonic tipped vertically.

 

[August Levasseur]

Sometimes I wonder if messages like this are posted by Microsoft’s marketing team, to try to minimize the number of people who reduce the size of their kernel, reduce the size and number of dynamic libraries loaded in by their most commonly used programs, and tweak their sysctls. That way there are fewer people who compare the speed of their Windows installation and their Linux installation and laugh their ass off.

I use void musl with a dwm-alike wayland compositor and absolutely minimal terminal emulator. My system boots up in .25 seconds. I use mk as my make utility. Send help.

 

[Baguette Child]

Why?

4:3 is the aspect ratio given us by God, reject modernity.

 

[seri0us]

I like them, I could sperg about my late model LaCie Electron Blues image quality. My preference for 4:3, 5:4 & 3:2 aspect ratio's. But really it's because I like them. I also play older games frequently, so being able to switch to the resolutions supported at the time and not have it look like a blocky mess is nice. Same goes for emulation. Additionally I'm used to the color when I'm touching up and editing scans of film and print media with CRT's
If they made a decent 4:3 or 3:2 27" or larger monitor with a resolution of 2560x1440 or higher with a minimum of 85hz refresh rate or higher I would switch but those don't really exist at a price point I'm willing to pay as I'm a cheap ass when it comes to getting electronics outside of a recycling center.
My other monitor is a 1080p viewsonic tipped vertically.

I also have a CRT on my desk, the motion clarity is unmatched and it has far superior colors and blacks to my LCDs. I don't daily drive it because it's already somewhat worn and I want it to last as long as possible.

I'd probably be happiest using a 4K OLED with BFI but those are still at least $700.

 

[Ferryman]

Are you having actual performance issues with any of these or are you falling victim to the minimalism mind virus? As a fellow sufferer, I can tell you that if you keep indulging it, you’re going to end up a long, long way down from Hyprland, down in the slums of the dwm-alikes. Configuring your OS by rewriting header files and recompiling from scratch, complaining about anything not programmed in pvre unadulterated C99, sneeding about GNU being bloated, and filling your heart with sadness at the obscurity of Plan 9. It’s a long way down, and you won’t recognize yourself by the time you hit the bottom.

Sometimes I wonder if messages like this are posted by Microsoft’s marketing team, to try to minimize the number of people who reduce the size of their kernel, reduce the size and number of dynamic libraries loaded in by their most commonly used programs, and tweak their sysctls. That way there are fewer people who compare the speed of their Windows installation and their Linux installation and laugh their ass off.

Oh its 100% mind virus. I was considering dwl but went with hypr because its one of the only compositors not afflicted with the wlroots Drew Loli/Pedophile DeVault plague. I've already been down the kernel minmaxing road with cutting a bunch of redundant drivers o algo. No cancer I might have gone with NetBSD were the wind to blow a different way the day I chose Hyprland. The ricing mind virus is only second to the minimalism one, followed shortly thereafter by the uniqueness mind virus.

 

[gildersleeve]

I also have a CRT on my desk, the motion clarity is unmatched and it has far superior colors and blacks to my LCDs. I don't daily drive it because it's already somewhat worn and I want it to last as long as possible.

I'd probably be happiest using a 4K OLED with BFI but those are still at least $700.

Im more of a "use it before you lose it" but it's typically at very low brightness to perserve the phosphors lifespan. Until I'm doing something important. I would like to stop using it daily. But only if I get the previously mentioned monitor.

 

[August Levasseur]

Im more of a "use it before you lose it" but it's typically at very low brightness to perserve the phosphors lifespan. Until I'm doing something important. I would like to stop using it daily. But only if I get the previously mentioned monitor.

I saw something from someone (I think it was either a blog or a youtube video, possibly both) where they demonstrated vector graphics using a laser and a piece of phosphorescant plastic that they had (I think) 3d printed. The laser was slow to move and the plastic had a lot of bleed, but I do wonder how much work would have to be done on that before you could get to a decent “modern” “CRT”. Probably a lot, probably not an infinite amount.