The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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The fact that nobody really knows that is proof of his statement though. Android has real, paid devs working on it and it shows.
I see your point, but the practical upshot of Android being a Linux distro is Google pays people to work on the Linux kernel and as a result it has improved by leaps and bounds over the last 15 years.
 
Just dropping by to whine about SystemD being absolute cancer and the yokels at RedHat can eat lead for making a horribly bloated init program that has its tendrils in fucking everything and keeps overwriting my configs.
Just wait until you find out how it (ab)uses symlinks if you haven't already.
 
Why do people obsess so much about what some soy-faced tard does?
IMO Linux's biggest issue is the lack of support from big companies, which would change with a bigger install base

Linus is the biggest tech tuber around, so if he shits his pants over Linux (whether the issue is his fault or not) only scares people off.
 
Just dropping by to whine about SystemD being absolute cancer and the yokels at RedHat can eat lead for making a horribly bloated init program that has its tendrils in fucking everything and keeps overwriting my configs.
May I suggest one of the distros on the list here? I myself can vouch personally for both Artix and Obarun since I use them both to some capacity and they're both effectively "Arch without systemd" to varying extents - one uses elogind and related components still as a crutch while the other avoids it as much as possible.
 
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May I suggest one of the distros on the list here? I myself can vouch personally for both Artix and Obarun since I use them both to some capacity and they're both effectively "Arch without systemd" to varying extents - one uses elogind and related components still as a crutch while the other avoids it as much as possible.
I use Void at home, but I'm not in charge of my employer's distro, which is why I have to deal with CentOS and its minion systemd constantly overwriting my nodes' network config.
 
Just dropping by to whine about SystemD being absolute cancer and the yokels at RedHat can eat lead for making a horribly bloated init program that has its tendrils in fucking everything and keeps overwriting my configs.
If I ever meet that cunt Poettering in real life I'm gonna fucking deck him. I was already mad at him for pulseaudio, systemd has made me apoplectic.
 
IMO Linux's biggest issue is the lack of support from big companies, which would change with a bigger install base

Linus is the biggest tech tuber around, so if he shits his pants over Linux (whether the issue is his fault or not) only scares people off.
Linux's biggest issue is fucktards thinking it needs widespread acceptance. Keep normies like this single digit IQ Linus away from it.

If you can't read a message before answering it, then moan because it does exactly what it said it would, you need to be euthanised.
 
Linus is the biggest tech tuber around, so if he shits his pants over Linux (whether the issue is his fault or not) only scares people off.
Doesn't he just do gaming-related shit? That's a lost cause anyway.
 
Linux's biggest issue is fucktards thinking it needs widespread acceptance. Keep normies like this single digit IQ Linus away from it.
Implying that you dense motherfuckers are any better.



Not everyone is a fucking tranny, or a schizo, who beats off to CLI bullshit like this.

Dealing with you cunts is a blessing and a curse, which is why I welcome some new blood.

In the meantime, the discourse on the r/linuxmint sub seems mostly decent and level-headed.

 
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Linux's biggest issue is fucktards thinking it needs widespread acceptance. Keep normies like this single digit IQ Linus away from it.

If you can't read a message before answering it, then moan because it does exactly what it said it would, you need to be euthanised.
Amen, in the real world, people like that just make everything shittier for the rest of us.

systemd doesn't bother me though, as it's not on my system and never will be. Just like Pulse audio, or dbus, or udev or all these other unwidely garbage heaps of software. In ways it's gotten both more difficult and easier than ever before to find quality software. It just needs a more personal touch most distros don't allow for.

If you have to deal with this garbage for a living I do pity you.
 
The problem is that all the various systems, subsystems, frameworks, libraries, interfaces, etc. that have accreted onto each other over the years are all made by different teams, often made up of unpaid volunteers, working mostly in isolation. Take this Pop_OS Steam issue for example. Every distro is on its own to create their own multilib support for 32-bit packages. The Pop_OS devs fucked up somewhere on that multilib support by not releasing one of their core packages in a 32-bit format, and when trying to install a 32-bit package, it led to an unintended behavior of the package manager (which originates all the way down the distro stack at Debian) to try to revert back to Ubuntu packages, albeit with a big warning sign to the user. So there's plenty of blame to go around. For all the screeching that Linux enthusiasts do about Flatpaks, this is the exact sort of problem that they are meant to solve.
 
In his normie mind, even if he had read the message, there was no reason to believe Steam would fuck up his graphical stack like that, he might very well have thought that Steam would update some components so it was okay to say "yes" to the prompt, so it's still a cope.

Also,

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"-Hey friend, I finally made the jump, installed Pop OS but I can't install Steam"
"-Use the Pop store"
"-I tried it, didn't work"
"-Ok try opening up the terminal and use sudo instead"
[Minutes later]
"-Dude wtf, now I am sitting at a command prompt?!"

Under no circumstance you'd need to pull up the Terminal to install something as mundane as Steam, so any way you slice it, it's inexcusable.

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The sub is in damage control mode, and its users high on copium.

EDIT: A Gnome dev has written a scathing blog post about System76's efforts to advance Pop!_OS.


Hahah really makes you think.
Inexcusable? Learn how the new system works or go back to using what you are accustomed to. If just werkz is all you're concerned about, I see 0 reasons to switch from the safe option of Windows (maybe with the exception of MacOS). There are a lot of assumptions made about how things ought to be from the perspective of users that made Windows intolerable to me and justified the switch.
My own first experiences with Linux were even worse, due to unfortunate hardware I had and the fact that I went in blind. I wasn't a poweruser of Windows by any means, installing OS wasn't my hobby either. It took me a full day to set up my system, which was an obscure Ubuntu knockoff called LXLE. First mistake. Another two days passed before I learned enough to start confidently navigating directories, launching the browser and generally remembering where things are and some common shortcuts. Some days later, I got the hang of installing packages that I actually needed. However, then I hit a snag with video drivers and re-rolled to Linux Mint. The experience improved drastically, because it was a distro friendlier to newbies and also because I dipped my toes into the system beforehand. Not once during all of that did I sperg out on the Internet about how LINUX IS DOGSHIT YOU GUYS OMG. Why? I tempered my expectations, I used search engines if I ran into problems and carefully read what people wrote. Most importantly, I admitted my own mistake of arrogantly installing what experienced Linux users thought the best distro for them is.

The Gnome article is a good enough segue into distro fragmentation, which is something Linus also mentioned. While not related to Steam's breakage directly, it shines a light on all the slapfights that constantly pop up between different dev teams in the Linux ecosystem. If you don't want to bother with that, you can avoid most of it by simply sticking to major distributions. He says in the video that there is so much choice but, aside from minor differences, there really isn't. New to Linux? Here, you get: Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora. Ubuntu is the easiest, Debian is the workhorse with an insane amount of packages in the official repo that might take some configuration, Fedora is the third wheel that will get you thinking about rolling distributions like Arch and what the differences are between stable and rolling in the first place. Pick a DE flavor, settle in and take your time learning. As a user, it's your responsibility to filter out what you need from all the overexcited autist babble about what is "the best". That means no derivative distros, no hype of the month #1 Distrowatch hit shit, no "best for your use case". These three have the best package QA and testing bar none.
 
why is it that I have literally never once had a docker container work? Am I doing something wrong? Is docker actually just overhyped shit? I feel like I'm going crazy. The promise with docker is it Just Works™️ and that's the polar opposite of everything I've experienced with it. The manual install processes I do for linux software can be lengthy and painful, but is always just fine by the end. Docker, on the other hand, always has something mysterious fuck up with it. Do I just have horrible luck or do other people have this as well?
 
why is it that I have literally never once had a docker container work? Am I doing something wrong? Is docker actually just overhyped shit? The promise with docker is it Just Works™️ and that's the polar opposite of everything I've experienced with it. The manual install processes I do for linux software can be lengthy and painful, but is always just fine by the end. Docker, on the other hand, always has something mysterious fuck up with it. Do I just have horrible luck or do other people have this as well?
Can't say I have, and we use them all the time at work for all sorts of shit.

What sort of issues are you having with them?
 
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