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From what I have gathered it seams Realtek WIFI cards are a pain in the ass to deal with for Linux.
The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
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@Dr. Geronimo
Look on the bright side, at this rate within a year you'll be making six figures as a linux engineer. Hell you might as well cut out the middleman and just do Fedora or Linux From Scratch.
Look on the bright side, at this rate within a year you'll be making six figures as a linux engineer. Hell you might as well cut out the middleman and just do Fedora or Linux From Scratch.
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At this point I'm genuinely surprised I haven't got 'just make your own driver' as a legitimate suggestion.
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I have used it for machine learning projects and tried to use it for like videos, but my graphics cards are old and equivalent to gtx 960 or something not that much better than cpu. so if I run like pytorch as an experiment i might only get 5x speedup instead of 50x, and maybe only 2x speedup for video rendering.
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Every genuine issue I've seen people have or have personally had has been hardware related. I imagine Geronimo has a horribly unlucky hardware situation that has made his experience miserable.
That said, most people I know who try linux that claim to have "problems" are Linus-tier retards who dig their own grave then blame GNU plus Linux.
I know a guy who would recommend this and then when you laugh it off he'll snidely tell you how easy it is. People like him are the final boss linux gatekeepers you may have to face some day.
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I will at least give credit to the modern linux support for being a bit better now. I remember when I first tried Ubuntu on a laptop a decade back the screen brightness wouldn't change. I looked up the issue and every thread I saw about the same issue could be summed up as 'stop whining it's free'
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Linux is like wanting to use a bus to go somewhere when you already have a car.
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Why does anybody use Arch btw. I never hear them doing anything but complaining about how much their computer doesn't work. Followed by how proud they are of them fixing their computer.
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Hardware support for newer stuff is sometimes sketchy. They've been a lot better over the years, still with laptops/convertibles even fairly old ones have issues where less tech-savvy people are just going to throw in the towel and go back to whatever OS they know is supported.
It's usually small things, like my current laptop you need to use a script to get the hardware keys to work (volume, brightness) but in the past I had a laptop that fans did not work without installing a script. So on install you would be at risk of overheating, and occasionally the script wouldn't work after suspend, so the fan wouldn't resume.
I'm not bagging on Linux, I've been using it off and on since circa 1999. It's just not for everyone (yet?) and that's fine.
Anyone have compelling reasons to switch from Debian based distros to something else? I have a new laptop (RTX GPU, Ryzen 7), came with Windows 10. I gave it a few months since I hadn't used windows much since like the ME era. I'm about to wipe it and install some Linux distribution (most likely Mint, but I am considering Pop). Usually I use much older hardware, so haven't had many issues.
I'm kind of iffy about rolling releases, and I'm not too keen on changing package managers. Any suggestions?
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It depends on the machine. I have a Clevo laptop and I have HORRIBLE issues with linux. Most distros just flat out won't work. The ones that do have persistent graphics issues. I had to change out 8 distros before I found one that didn't have a bunch of problems.
After being on linux for almost a year, I realize now that they were likely config issues and COULD have been fixed, but a year ago I represented the average consumer and they would have done what I did and just assumed "shit broke, try another".
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(Proper) Linux on Chromebooks is an even worse crapshoot, considering the lengths hardware engineers for the platform go to jail the entire hardware and driver configurations so that most distributions can't work the audio or in some cases, put a sieve in the battery life.
It seems like generally if you try to run any non-stock firmware on a Chromebook, it just goes downhill quickly.
It seems like generally if you try to run any non-stock firmware on a Chromebook, it just goes downhill quickly.
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This list is mega helpful https://wiki.galliumos.org/Hardware_Compatibility
I've got it running on a converted chromebook and so far it's been the most bug free machine I have (knock on wood)
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Newer hardware support with rolling releases. I guess debian unstable can fill that role.
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I see "Arch btw" crowd as the new gentoo except even easier so more people actually do it.
You see, Arch is a highly exclusive club of high iq individuals who can read a wiki and use a "rolling release" distro, meaning they get bleeding edge updates only! And of course when things break they're high iq so can fix them but things seldom break. especially when you almost exclusively use your computer for browsing the internet
Really though I think it's mostly just people trying to feel smart and/or unique, especially before it got meme'd to death and everyone was doing it. You'd be quite the badass if your neofetch shows you run arch while showing off your tiling window manager anime desktop minimal rice.
The actual utility from Arch is the AUR but you don't need to use Arch itself to get that benefit.
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I'll add another data point to "Fuck Binary Blobs". I just tried the PopOS! live USB. Everything seems to work fine (including hybrid graphics) except, of course, fucking Wifi (RTL8852AE). Good news is that it seems to be recently supported in kernel 5.16, but the kernel Pop install ships with 5.13.x. So I can't easily check. This is the kind of stuff I mentioned that turns average Joe off. Linux's users are just so used to it, we hardly notice. We check stack exchange (or Arch wiki) and move on.
ETA: Just tried Fedora as well. It doesn't recognize the discrete GPU on boot, at least not in the default software. I didn't lspci or anything. I'm trying to avoid the hassle of getting hybrid gpu shit working myself.
What distro are you using?
Speaking of, this is one reason many people use it. Good documentation.
Do you have a specific suggestion for a rolling release distro? I have a tab open on DistroWatch. I can just pick the top rolling release distro there, but if you have a suggestion, I'm open to hear it. Earlier I was considering Arch, but I decided to put something that I am more familiar with on my main rig, and I will try Arch on this Dell 2-in-1 convertible I sometimes use.
Commonly known as "Redditors".
ETA: Just tried Fedora as well. It doesn't recognize the discrete GPU on boot, at least not in the default software. I didn't lspci or anything. I'm trying to avoid the hassle of getting hybrid gpu shit working myself.
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Probably not. I just throw mine on the secondary HDD I use for game installs but you could probably do something with suspend hooks to swapon/swapoff on state changes.
When shit goes bad shit goes really bad in strange ways that generally require stack overflow and possibly transposing directions from another distro. An example would be manjaro having udev rules that catch a particular usb to serial chipset and map it differently than the default in /dev/ causing Platformio to lose its shit whenever it tried to talk to a microcontroller using that chipset.
I use it because fucking everything that uses compiled plug-ins turns into dependency hell if you can't build them yourself, especially for programs that update way more frequently than Debian updates its repos.
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Running chrome OS on them has the same outcome, TBF.
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Gallium on the converted chromebook, which is basically xubuntu. Then for my laptop I have ZorinOS, which is a "windows drop in replacement for normies". It's the most "just works" distro I've seen to date. I use it for actual work so I REALLY need a "just works" distro. I do not have time to tinker on someone else's clock time.