The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Kinda hard to fuck this up with the default install option assuming you just selected a drive for it to do all the partitions on and then booted from that drive without touching anything.
I've heard dual booting with Windows can result in Windows sometimes messing up the boot partition but I know nothing about that as I'm not a dual booter.
Some Debian based distros will absolutely eat shit if you try to install them in UEFI without an active connection to the internet (the install media lacks packages needed for UEFI installation, and downloads them from the internet instead; an absolutely retarded design decision)
 
Well, for one, using Mint...
Just install Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Bunsenlabs, or OpenSuse.

But seriously;
UEFI or Legacy boot?
Installed with system totally offline, or with network cable plugged in?
NVME drive?
Don't know what I did but I fixed it.

So, what's your beef with Mint?
 
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The best Arch distro is Arch. Why would you ever use an Arch derivative? Changing DE 2hard4u? You *want* more retards in the chain between you and your packages? wtf is supposed to be the difference other than different default skins and slower package updates? and the inevitable abandonment of said splinter distro and the need to switch again anyway?
EndeavourOS has awesome XFCE theming out of the box, and also it's basically just Arch.

Manjaro should definitely be avoided.
 
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Can someone explain to me why unofficial apps are allowed on an unofficial manager?
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Also I think I got this piece of shit to work decently now. I don't know why a screen full of errors pop up on boot but I hate it.
 
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Can someone please explain what's going on here?
According to distro maintainers, systemd does some stupid shit where it remounts your old root partition on / as /oldroot prior to shutting down.
Poettering denies responsibility for this. The solution is for Poettering to be unalived, and for human linux users to return to tradi\/ional sysVinit.
 
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Can someone please explain what's going on here?
Some mountpoints won't dismount properly possibly because it was multiply mounted elsewhere, so shutdown waits and waits and waits.
/oldroot/ looks like some chroot/bind mount that wasn't cleaned up properly.

It should be fine to just remount them all as read-only to flush any write caches and power off,
 
According to distro maintainers, systemd does some stupid shit where it remounts your old root partition on / as /oldroot prior to shutting down.
Poettering denies responsibility for this. The solution is for Poettering to be unalived, and for human linux users to return to tradi\/ional sysVinit.

Some mountpoints won't dismount properly possibly because it was multiply mounted elsewhere, so shutdown waits and waits and waits.
/oldroot/ looks like some chroot/bind mount that wasn't cleaned up properly.

It should be fine to just remount them all as read-only to flush any write caches and power off,

This shit is exactly why I abandoned systemd, when I played around with it in Gentoo about five years ago now. Glad to see it's just as shit nowadays.
/oldroot/ doesn't seem to exist, and everyone on all the forums I've looked up it seems like nobody knows what to do to fix it (or at least the important people refuse to do so). This doesn't help the issues I'm dealing with as well, like the strangely long boot time and the string of errors that are too fast for me to catch with my phone.

I hate coming to this thread and whining. I want this shit to work. I like Mint's look and I do like the cinnamon desktop. I'm just annoyed at how 'it just works' is a meme. I guess if I can't figure this out I'll try Zorin.

Maybe I should just stop whining and go back to Manjarro lmao. That was the only distro that was closest to 'it just works'.
 
It sounds like your computer just has every card stacked against the possibility of using anything other than Winblows or ChromeBlow-S.
 
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maybe a straggler process refuses to close files for unknown reasons, (/dev/mapper/ shenenigans and things like lvm come to mind) although it would be very strange if systemd doesn't SIGTERM and then SIGKILL stragglers. Still, no sync and readonly remount? No proper recursive unmount? My busybox init shutdown script is more advanced then and surprise, I also never encountered such problems.

It's very funny to see that it fails at the very basic things it was vowed to resolve originally. But let's just pile more shit on top, maybe it'll help!

Personally I really wouldn't want to run someone's unofficial binary.
This cannot be overstated. So many people in this sphere happily running strange binary-only stuff off random githubs and private repositories. It could literally send your entire browsing history to Xi directly and you'd never know. That's also why I usually avoid projects that probably mean well like ungoogled chromium. They might be put together with the best intentions but the difficulty to get "official" binaries and the lack of eyes on the code on something as complex and online as a webbrowser just turns me off. I also don't want to necessarily compile all that shit myself, and even if I did, I cannot seriously vet the source code of an entire browser, maybe even at every update.

I've been playing quite a bit with lisp in general and emacs in particular in the last few days and things are coming together for me. It makes sense to see a lisp image/vm with all it's functions like a collection of scripts written in a very elegant language that can be developed in organic ways, not like some kind of massive piece of intertwined software like e.g. systemd. I'm kinda tried to actually replace almost all my low-level system services with a lisp image I can interact with programmatically, with wrappers of sorts around the more complex services. This has nothing really to do with Linux but I'm just really kinda excited about lisp right now. Most programming fun on modern machines for actual modern, practical things I had in a long time.
 
Worst come to worst, you could just do a REISUB and force it to shut off the system. While pressing the print screen button, press R-E-I-S-U-B to reboot or R-E-I-S-U-O to shutdown. This is assuming whatever retard of a distro did not disable emergency magic keys. More at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key.

God I hate wikipedia's new UI.
 
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You have a hardware component that's being obstinate and refusing to turn off. udev hangs while trying to turn it off then systemd kills it as a result, but whatever you have is still reading from /dev and /sys

If you run journalctl -o short-precise -k right after booting up I might be able to figure out what the offender is.
 
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Worst come to worst, you could just do a REISUB and force it to shut off the system. While pressing the print screen button, press R-E-I-S-U-B to reboot or R-E-I-S-U-O to shutdown. This is assuming whatever retard of a distro did not disable emergency magic keys. More at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key.

God I hate wikipedia's new UI.
Not recommended - I once corrupted a filesystem by doing this. If you tell it to Boot before it's finishing Syncing, it will quite happily do this. It's safer just to hold down the off button.
 
You have a hardware component that's being obstinate and refusing to turn off. udev hangs while trying to turn it off then systemd kills it as a result, but whatever you have is still reading from /dev and /sys

If you run journalctl -o short-precise -k right after booting up I might be able to figure out what the offender is.
I'll give you what you need tomorrow. I went ahead and installed Zorin but wasn't feeling it right away. I'll put Mint back up and see what happens. Until then:
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JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
 
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