The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Sooo update on my controller situation... unfortunately my 2.4ghz controller ALSO has "phantom inputs." I was playing Pocky and Rocky (an overhead run n' gun) and it became VERY noticable several times (especially during this section on a raft) that my character was walking (often right into danger or instadeath) without me even touching the D-pad.

Usually the form it takes is if I move up slightly, they'll keep going up until I press a different direction. IT's annoying as fuck, especially for bosses that require exact positioning.

And no, streaming doesn't seem to cause this as it happens offline as well.

I hate emulation.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Doctor Neo Cortex
I always wondered what that was about. I had always forgotten to check by the following morning, though.
In my case it's KDE not playing nicely even though they started to leverage systemd user units. And I'm stuck with SDDM 0.19 because 0.20 is an abortion on Nvidia.

How much Wayland dickriding is is there?
 
Sooo update on my controller situation... unfortunately my 2.4ghz controller ALSO has "phantom inputs." I was playing Pocky and Rocky (an overhead run n' gun) and it became VERY noticable several times (especially during this section on a raft) that my character was walking (often right into danger or instadeath) without me even touching the D-pad.

Usually the form it takes is if I move up slightly, they'll keep going up until I press a different direction. IT's annoying as fuck, especially for bosses that require exact positioning.

And no, streaming doesn't seem to cause this as it happens offline as well.

I hate emulation.
What version is your kernel's? If you still have 5.x, you have an ancient Linux from the stoneage, better try to update it to 6.x.
 
not really a matter of emulation, more like something's off before it even gets there. does it only happen via BT?
Nope, it also happened on a controller that used 2.4z receiver.

What version is your kernel's? If you still have 5.x, you have an ancient Linux from the stoneage, better try to update it to 6.x.
How do I find out? I think I've run updates since installing it but I'm not sure if those update the kernal.
 
fedora fags are having a slap fight over x11 support with kde
get the popcorn lads.
Ah yes, nothing better to show that something works really well by forcing users to use it. Then proceeding to trying to block the stable alternative that you are 'replacing'.

Tried Wayland on Arch, KDE, and Nvidia about a month ago. Still an absolute shit show. It's amazing that Wayland has been in development for a half a decade-ish and still has major issues, while requiring every DE to create their own compositor for it. Another 5 years and it may finally be a workable alternative.
 
Ah yes, nothing better to show that something works really well by forcing users to use it. Then proceeding to trying to block the stable alternative that you are 'replacing'.

Tried Wayland on Arch, KDE, and Nvidia about a month ago. Still an absolute shit show. It's amazing that Wayland has been in development for a half a decade-ish and still has major issues, while requiring every DE to create their own compositor for it. Another 5 years and it may finally be a workable alternative.
The only distro I've had Wayland not fuck up with was Rocky out of the box, and arguably I didn't try anything beyond Firefox and VLC. I'm way past having the patience to dick around with minutiae to achieve basic functionality just because a bunch of millennial speds have written me off as a doddering Luddite with no taste who insists on using outdated technology. Give me a Linux that's less of a pain in my ass than Windows with ShutUp10 and some portable apps and I'll be all over it, but I've been using Linux since before the 1.0 kernel and it's been damn disheartening to see it follow the same development curve as so many other things: A rise to greatness and near perfection in some areas, followed by a deliberate hurling itself downhill in a fruitless pursuit of mainstream acceptance and corporate gibs. So after that brief period of Linux-only I'm back to running Linux and Windows on separate computers, because that's the easiest way to get shit done without having it constantly blow up in my face.
 
It's amazing that Wayland has been in development for a half a decade-ish and still has major issues, while requiring every DE to create their own compositor for it. Another 5 years and it may finally be a workable alternative.
You're out by a factor of three - the first release of Wayland was in 2008. Maybe it'll be finished by the time Hurd 1.0 comes out.
 
Is there a way to develop a cli gecko browser that writes directly to the screen without the use of X11 or Wayland? Or to be more clear, what would be involved in making it so that you could be using a computer with no desktop environment installed, then launch the gecko browser from the commandline that handles mouse or touch input and image rendering to the screen directly?
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Doctor Neo Cortex
Is there a way to develop a cli gecko browser that writes directly to the screen without the use of X11 or Wayland? Or to be more clear, what would be involved in making it so that you could be using a computer with no desktop environment installed, then launch the gecko browser from the commandline that handles mouse or touch input and image rendering to the screen directly?
Certainly possible. It doesn't appear GTK has a direct framebuffer backend though.
The easiest way is to simply run X11 with no windowmanager and start the browser there in full screen mode.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Doctor Neo Cortex
Certainly possible. It doesn't appear GTK has a direct framebuffer backend though.
The easiest way is to simply run X11 with no windowmanager and start the browser there in full screen mode.
If you were a madman and were trying to avoid X11 what would you need, that currently doesn't exist or would require significant rewriting?

Like assuming you were happy with limited performance, could you create a framebuffer that the gecko engine writes to directly so you'd just need the Gecko engine, a cli program that handles navigation, a framebuffer, and basic display drivers? Assuming that video and audio playback is a seperate and optional feature.
 
Last edited:
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Doctor Neo Cortex
If you were a madman and were trying to avoid X11 what would you need, that currently doesn't exist or would require significant rewriting?
Money. And time, but mostly money.
I suspect Qt can do it as it's designed for embedded uses. There's https://doc.qt.io/QtWebBrowser/ and then you need to setup direct rendering,
Probably need a full compile of Qt for framebuffer and everything.

Presumably you could do similar to X11 with just running the Wayland compsitor without a full Desktop Environment. But I treat Wayland like nuclear materials and try not to get any on me. But I suspect X11 will be more lightweight.
 
fedora fags are having a slap fight over x11 support with kde
get the popcorn lads.
1633860798045.png
 
Is there a way to develop a cli gecko browser that writes directly to the screen without the use of X11 or Wayland? Or to be more clear, what would be involved in making it so that you could be using a computer with no desktop environment installed, then launch the gecko browser from the commandline that handles mouse or touch input and image rendering to the screen directly?
Not exactly what you asked for, but you can run chromium directly with the drm/gbm backend https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/ozone_overview.md . Chromium funny enough even has a window manager built into it
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Doctor Neo Cortex
Back