The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

I do. Every fucking 3 months I do. Manually because I use a niche DNS server that none of their clients support. And then I do it again for my VPN hosts DNS web interface because I'm not renting a second machine/ip just for secondary DNS. And then I cut and paste random bits of text into a pem file until I have something Hiawatha recognises because it only works when the private and public key are in the same file and no-one bothers to document what that looks like or in which order and the whole time I'm waiting for letsencrypt to make this ordeal even more frequent than 3 months because some absolute mongoloids managed to automate it on their goyslop server so "automation is possible" for everyone.
It's the most brain damaged destruction of a good idea since CloudFlare decided to build a CDN so powerful it can only be breached by a letter writing campaign on twitter.

Set up BIND on your home computer, and delegate the _acme-challenge subdomain to it.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Need to recompile your mail server with a custom patch? Good luck turning that into a Deb file that the package manager will recognise.

Want to add something spiffy to a config file that you found in the package docs? Good luck finding it, it's been moved to a random location and replaced with an over complicated mess of spaghetti scripts recursively calling each other.

Ah yes, first world problems. I don't know how to do that, so should I even care? The only time I recompiled something was years ago and it was a java program, not even an app you find on a repo via a package manager right, but an external and forgotten plain old github project.

Every linux distro is like this. Maybe except for a rare few I don't know about. The root directories are also connected together through symbolic links to make this dumb shit even more confusing. I don't know why you single out debian for this.

Actually most distros other than slackware have this cancer.

Ok good thanks for confirming most distros are pieces of shit.
BTW for every thing it does right, Slackware fucks it up elsewhere. Someone whined and gave up on it almost immediately. Debian fucking installs atleast and it takes no more than 10 minutes.

Whatever you do don't install Slackware at 9pm. I made that mistake and suddenly I didn't have any time at all to troubleshoot my noob problems before bedtime. The boot time was pretty damn fast...

BTW

Shlack is Russian noun for something shitty.
Literally shitware.

If you didn't know.

 

[analrapist]

Every linux distro is like this. Maybe except for a rare few I don't know about. The root directories are also connected together through symbolic links to make this dumb shit even more confusing. I don't know why you single out debian for this.

Arch is designed to minimize the number of patches its packages are away from the upstream distributors. Arch and the Arch community are the ones to whom this matters. Generally, Debian and its spawn patch their docs to change paths, etc.

If you want to use the upstream package as-distributed, apt-get build-dep package-name and then build and install the upstream. NBD. Debian's designed to make this as painless as possible.

 

[TheDataHorder]

my oneplus 6 has postmarketos, runs smooth but sms and calling dont work

sorry mum, i cant call nor text you! my phone doesn't have the ability to do the most common thing people will want to do with a phone!

if he has an x86 tablet then almost any distro will work if you figure out how to install it.

>tablet
>x86
x86 tablets are rare, most run arm. i don't think he'd of asked what to run on his tablet if it was x86.
i can't figure out if you're denser then a black hole or higher then Mount Everest. both describe your stupidity quite well.

 

[Betonhaus]

x86 tablets are rare, most run arm. i don't think he'd of asked what to run on his tablet if it was x86.
i can't figure out if you're denser then a black hole or higher then Mount Everest. both describe your stupidity quite well.

maybe it's one of those old 8" Windows 8 tablets that Microsoft pretends never existed?

 

[DavidS877]

maybe it's one of those old 8" Windows 8 tablets that Microsoft pretends never existed?

Or MS Surface before the current generation, the finest in x86 Chinese random imports, some from Dell and HP, a ton of ruggedized stuff(sometimes actually weighing a ton).

 

[Kosher Dill]

I used to have an old Windows XP x86 tablet from Fujitsu, kind of like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126504333028

It worked but it was always more of a toy than a serious thing.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm on a mission to get Skyrim with mods working, which involves downloading and installing SE 1.5.97 (because Steam updates Skyrim to AE which breaks mods) and getting the mods installed along with the mod executables that need hinkyness to get steam to launch them in Windows compatibility mode.

It's not going well.

If someone had a preinstalled package they could send to me so i could unzip it and add it to Steam that would be swell, but that's not going to happen. But I'll try downloading a suspicious copy of the older version off the internet and using a Windows VM to configure it, then move it to my Linux install to run it there. Might work.

I think running the Sims with mods is easier as the mods don't have their own executables.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

Someone whined and gave up on it almost immediately.

Unironically, skill issue from their part. Slackware has an installer that works and unlike Debian is not a fucking fossil and it's practical: you can install "muh proprietary" components with zero issues and it's not driven by freetards.
Debian is dogass just like modern Windows: the fact that you unironically suggested to install Debian with GNOME says a lot, really.
GTK apps suck donkey dick, QT programs actually work and respect X11's DPI settings and scaling settings, see the following blog post.
It is true that Windows is used for kiosks and such and its also true that I've seen those crash a few times due to Windows failing with cryptic error messages.

 

[TheDataHorder]

maybe it's one of those old 8" Windows 8 tablets that Microsoft pretends never existed?

my grandfather had one of those. it couldn't even run chrome. granted it was like what? 2012? like hell chrome on desktop had arm support back then but it really showed that microshat had no idea what they were doing with that whole shitshow.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Unironically, skill issue from their part. Slackware has an installer that works and unlike Debian is not a fucking fossil and it's practical: you can install "muh proprietary" components with zero issues and it's not driven by freetards.
Debian is dogass just like modern Windows: the fact that you unironically suggested to install Debian with GNOME says a lot, really.
GTK apps suck donkey dick, QT programs actually work and respect X11's DPI settings and scaling settings, see the following blog post.
It is true that Windows is used for kiosks and such and its also true that I've seen those crash a few times due to Windows failing with cryptic error messages.

I bet slackware is shit in other ways debian isn't.

I've had very few problems with debian compared to fucking arch so I won't take your word for it. Both QT and GTK are shitass BTW. Source: I had to deal with both of them.

What does Windows have anything to do with any of this? Isn't this the Linux thread, oh boy linuxtards let windows live rent free in their heads lmao.

 

[jONALD]

What does Windows have anything to do with any of this? Isn't this the Linux thread, oh boy linuxtards let windows live rent free in their heads lmao.

Welcome back, Slavpower!

 

[Sperg Coalition]

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I will not take your word for it and I've never mentioned Arch in my post.
QT handles pretty much everything that I throw at while GTK doesn't support fractional scaling et all for autistic reasons.
Let me remind you that one of you Winfags sperged on this very thread so much that he got threadbanned for two weeks.
Aren't you Windows users supposed to be the "normal" ones? The only thing I see is Wintards sperging out even more than Linux autists, you love to see it!

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

I will not take your word for it and I've never mentioned Arch in my post.
QT handles pretty much everything that I throw at while GTK doesn't support fractional scaling et all for autistic reasons.
Let me remind you that one of you Winfags sperged on this very thread so much that he got threadbanned for two weeks.
Aren't you Windows users supposed to be the "normal" ones? The only thing I see is Wintards sperging out even more than Linux autists, you love to see it!

Ah so you're exactly like morto, you're a dev who is assmad because the kernel is not exactly to your liking. That's fine, but maybe you should consider why people don't know the differences between QT and GTK. Maybe ask a person like me who uses Linux mostly as a PC and rarely as a dev environment why I think they both suck and maybe then your autistic OS will appeal to normies.

I didn't even mention windows on this thread in the past few months, you brought it up for no reason and then got mad when I point out you have it stuck in your head.

SlavPower is a furfag, so he's not normal to boot. Anytime he shows up to furry threads I barrage him with hats and trashcans because he's cringe. I'm not scared to admit it, so be mad about it.

 

[Creative Username]

os fanboys are just spidermen with stockholm syndrome pointing at each other

convince me otherwise

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Sperg Coalition be like:

os fanboys are just spidermen with stockholm syndrome pointing at each other

convince me otherwise

Also your precious QT has many hits when I look up "problems with qt linux" including my own problems with it.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/433385/scaling-hidpi-issue-for-qt5-applications-under-gnome

I win the argument, cope.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

os fanboys are just spidermen with stockholm syndrome pointing at each other

convince me otherwise

Yeah you are right, I should not be assmad about a OS of all things. It reminds me of when X11 users point out that Wayland breaks their workflow and the latter lash out. I really should use my time more constructively.

Sperg Coalition be like:

Also your precious QT has many hits when I look up "problems with qt linux" including my own problems with it.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/433385/scaling-hidpi-issue-for-qt5-applications-under-gnome

I win the argument, cope.

Except for the fact that this flag has been deprecated and it is only useful in legacy applications. You can pretty much use QT_ENABLE_HIGHDPI_SCALING if you have QT >= 5.14 for HIDPI displays.
Don't ask me why GTK and the Gnome developers refuse to implement this shit when QT has gotten this feature for ages which works everywhere.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Yeah you are right, I should not be assmad about a OS of all things. It reminds me of when X11 users point out that Wayland breaks their workflow and the latter lash out. I really should use my time more constructively.

I can see why.

Wayland​

Wayland is developed as a free and open-source community-driven project to replace the X Window System (also known as X11 or Xorg ) with a modern, secure, and more straightforward windowing system.


In Wayland, the compositor is the display server. The compositor is a window manager that provides applications with an off-screen buffer for each window. The window manager composites the window buffers into an image representing the screen and writes the result into the display memory.


The Wayland protocol lets the compositor send the input events directly to the clients and enables the client to send the damage event directly to the compositor.


As in the X case, when the client receives the event, it updates the user interface (UI). But in the Wayland rendering happens in the client, so the client sends a request to the compositor to indicate the region that was updated.


Wayland’s main advantage over X is that it starts from scratch. One of the main reasons for X’s complexity is that, over the years, its role has changed. As a result, today, X11 acts largely as “a really terrible” communications protocol between the client and the window manager.


Wayland is also superior when it comes to security. With X11, it’s possible to do something known as “keylogging” by allowing any program to exist in the background and read what’s happening with other windows open in the X11 area.


This simply won’t happen with Wayland, as each program works independently.

X11​

X11 is a network protocol. It describes how messages are exchanged between a client (application) and the display (server). These messages typically carry primitive drawing commands like “draw a box,” “write these characters at this position,” “the left mouse button has been clicked,” etc.


But X11 is old, and it was still a pile of hacks sitting on top of a protocol not overhauled for over 30 years. Most of the X Server protocol’s features were not used anymore.


All of the work that X11 did was redelegated to the individual applications and the window manager. And yet all of those old features are still there, weighing down on all of these applications, hurting performance and security.

https://linuxiac.com/xorg-x11-wayland-linux-display-servers-and-protocols-explained/

I got no ball in this debate cause I use Xorg, but still lmao.

Except for the fact that this flag has been deprecated and it is only useful in legacy applications. You can pretty much use QT_ENABLE_HIGHDPI_SCALING if you have QT >= 5.14 for HIDPI displays.
Don't ask me why GTK and the Gnome developers refuse to implement this shit when QT has gotten this feature for ages which works everywhere.

Took them long enough.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

I cannot quote your post in it's entirety @Kiwi & Cow but my gripes with Wayland are purely technical. There is no denying that X11 is crunky and old and whatnot but Wayland in itself and compositors make everything in their power to make it hard to actually support it well.
One example is global keybindinds: I extensively use them and Wayland doesn't allow for it in a way that works everywhere so it's a showstopper for me. When I point that out zealots start popping everywhere so... I do understand your frustations et all

EDIT: Something that I've noticed is that nowadays there is an obsession of rewriting stuff from zero instead of maintaing existing solutions. We all know that maintaining software is not fun at all but... Nobody seems to care about writing good software and instead the latest <insert new buzzword software> pops out and the cycle repeats over and over again: this is true for Linux userland programs, modern Windows, even frameworks in general.

 

[Creative Username]

one of the spidermen stopped pointing and is acknowledging flaws with his own solution while the other spiderman is continuing to point and have stockholm syndrome
don't be the second spiderman here, kids
we could all stand to learn things from this, couldn't we?