I like cinnamon. Just use whatever, it doesn't matter that much. Cinnamon looks nice and it runs well on my shitty laptop
The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
- Thread starter tehpope
- Start date
-
🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
I like cinnamon. Just use whatever, it doesn't matter that much. Cinnamon looks nice and it runs well on my shitty laptop
- Joined
- Mar 30, 2023
Cinnamon has a dark theme, it's in the theme settings that the Welcome app would've listed. I find a few rare things don't like the dark theme, but that seems to only be Windows apps running in a poorly configured wine bottle
- Joined
- Jan 14, 2024
Thanks, I ended up just nabbing it from ubuntus 24.04 deb archives and its working again, so it def was a version issue.
- Joined
- May 5, 2022
I don't recall XFCE being very political. I think they have a black mascot now but I know there's a white version of it as well so it wasn't like they went full blm.
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2019
Sounds like it's working for you at least for now.
Back in the day we used to use the 'aoss' command, generally packaged as 'alsa-oss' on Debian-based distros, to run programs which only understood the 'OSS' sound framework (which got generally replaced over licensing concerns) through ALSA. For what it's worth, I gather there's a similar solution to the Pulseaudio problem, 'apulse', which can either be used as a wrapper, or have its library files installed to the usual paths the poettringware would go in which case it simply reroutes everything through ALSA with dmix.
Given the current focus from Google on breaking it, it will break again. I find it easiest to just uninstall any distro version, and keep the one-file yt-dlp_linux version that they provide in my ~/bin folder. I then symlink yt-dlp_linux to yt-dlp so anything that relies on that file name just works, and just update it with 'yt-dlp -U' if it breaks. Simple as
- Joined
- May 15, 2023
Linuxbros, are we about to witness the death of Gnome?
Finally some good fucking news.
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2017
There's a bunch of Red Hat/IBM employees working on it, so the project is unlikely to die unless a giant meteor hits GUADEC or something. Sadly, it looks like it just ended and they're all still alive.
- Joined
- Jul 28, 2023
XFCE will probably take a while to get Wayland, if you care about that. Cinnamon too but they're aiming for 2026, whereas XFCE is very much a "its done when it's done" project. Cinnamon is also a bit heavier, especially if you don't have a good a GPU but in general I think the performance difference will be neglible when you're actually doing stuff. This chart may help.
Don't avoid KDE because of who develops it, it's a pretty apolitical project and the only thing I really know that they've done is climate activism and for a German project it's not a big surprise. Avoid KDE because it can be jank, you dislike Qt, it can be unreliable etc.
Don't avoid KDE because of who develops it, it's a pretty apolitical project and the only thing I really know that they've done is climate activism and for a German project it's not a big surprise. Avoid KDE because it can be jank, you dislike Qt, it can be unreliable etc.
- Joined
- Nov 21, 2020
XFCE chads stay winning.
- Joined
- Mar 4, 2019
Look into Trinity. It's a fork of KDE 3, pre plasma, and none of the infestation as far as I can tell. Not even a CoC.
- Joined
- Sep 5, 2019
Have no idea why but the installer is plain fucked for me. Once I finish the install steps the system just hangs without beginning the install process. Changed my iso source and used Rufus instead of Belena but it's still the same story.
To check that it wasn't me I tried installing Zorin and that went fine.
Leaded Gasoline
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 7, 2023
Why is the performance so bad?
std::string
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- May 17, 2018
xfwm still needs to be ported and that's the major barrier.
Also the guy working on porting it works for Red Hat if that tickles the schizophrenic retards in this thread.
- Joined
- Jan 14, 2024
eh, Wayland should come good at some point and the thing I liked most when I tried wayland was how nice it handled HiDPI scaling, which juuuust so happens to be the thing keeping me on cinnamon over XFCE, that and the S H I T T Y thumbnails of its file manager.
EDIT: Speaking of thumbnails, Why is Dolphins SO much better than every other File manager on Linux? and Windows for that matter, not only does it have sensible size scaling compared to the usual retarded 100/150/200/400 brainrot, But its thumbnails are so much clearer than Gnome/Cinnamon, It pains me greatly that its Plasma's FM since Plasma is my least favorite DE.
Last edited:
someonenew
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Jul 13, 2024
Hey everyone, I am stuck making a decision. GNOME looks nice, but KDE is more versatile. However, KDE looks square-y and is prone to errors.
I feel I need a reason to make a switch and I also need a reason to stick with GNOME.
Here are two methods I constructed:
Looking forward to an answer from you guys.
MAIN PRIORITY: /home stays, my data stays.
METHOD 1: Keep installation and absolutely blow the software.
```bash
sudo apt autoremove gdm3 lightdm gnome-shell-extension-tool ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell && sudo apt install plasma* sddm kde* qml-module-org-kde* libkf5kdelibs4support* libkf5libkdepim* software-properties-kde xdg-desktop-portal-kde libkde* konsole
```
METHOD 2: Preserve /home, hop the distros.
1. Back up /home.
2. Verify the backup is good.
3. Make a list of every app you have now with:
bash
find /usr/share/applications -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} .desktop \; | sort > ~/Desktop/applications.txt
4. Decide if you want to keep each of them or replace them with the KDE version.
5. Edit the list of apps (~/Desktop/applications.txt) to remove those you don't want and save that list so you can use it later.
6. Install Kubuntu directly, overwriting Ubuntu.
7. Pour your data from /home back into the newly installed Kubuntu, leaving out the configurations you no longer need, so you can keep your browser settings and data.
8. Reinstall the apps you decided to keep using:
bash
sudo apt install < applications.txt
METHOD 3: Blow everything up, install Arch Linux.
Nope, mate, already did that. Same goes for Gentoo and Arch Linux.
I feel I need a reason to make a switch and I also need a reason to stick with GNOME.
Here are two methods I constructed:
Looking forward to an answer from you guys.
MAIN PRIORITY: /home stays, my data stays.
METHOD 1: Keep installation and absolutely blow the software.
```bash
sudo apt autoremove gdm3 lightdm gnome-shell-extension-tool ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell && sudo apt install plasma* sddm kde* qml-module-org-kde* libkf5kdelibs4support* libkf5libkdepim* software-properties-kde xdg-desktop-portal-kde libkde* konsole
```
METHOD 2: Preserve /home, hop the distros.
1. Back up /home.
2. Verify the backup is good.
3. Make a list of every app you have now with:
bash
find /usr/share/applications -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec basename {} .desktop \; | sort > ~/Desktop/applications.txt
4. Decide if you want to keep each of them or replace them with the KDE version.
5. Edit the list of apps (~/Desktop/applications.txt) to remove those you don't want and save that list so you can use it later.
6. Install Kubuntu directly, overwriting Ubuntu.
7. Pour your data from /home back into the newly installed Kubuntu, leaving out the configurations you no longer need, so you can keep your browser settings and data.
8. Reinstall the apps you decided to keep using:
bash
sudo apt install < applications.txt
METHOD 3: Blow everything up, install Arch Linux.
Nope, mate, already did that. Same goes for Gentoo and Arch Linux.
- Joined
- Nov 21, 2020
Method 4: Install both and switch at the login prompt. It's not like disks are small these days.
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2016
unironically I think the biggest thing keeping the Dream Of The Linux Desktop from becoming reality as users get sick and tired of Microsoft's bullshit is how incredibly ugly Gnome is, and most major distros ship with a version of it as the default.
Whose dick got sucked for Canonical and Red Hat for both to make ugly Gnome themes their default GUI?
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2018
I've been looking at many many window managers and DEs in the last few days and also a little ricing fvwm, it has been interesting. The scripting language is from hell but well, works. I went with a CDEish look for now, complete with fitting gtk/qt themes and everything. Tiling window managers on small screens are never efficent, because so much space gets wasted for windows you don't currently look at while you can easily have overlapping windows on a stacking window manager. The ratpoison "just run every program fullscreen" was not a bad approach, especially with the sins of modern UIs (more on that later) but not everything worked well with it. You could probably make an argument that tiling WMs are never quite space efficent, but well, that's neither here nor there.
I've been doing computing since the 80s and the Amiga and I find it shocking how much UIs have regressed. 90s to early 00s was peak UI and it's only been downhill since then. The modern computer UI is not consistent (e.g. programs completely ignoring OS theming and just doing their own thing, causing a jarring experience on context switch). It is oversimplified. There is mobile cancer with many programs apparently developed for touchscreens which often are neither space efficent nor easy to use. There is also a constant change in UI paradigms because the people making these UIs create work for themselves to keep their jobs, completely killing efficency and the advantage of becoming familiar with anything. Also many UIs just piss and shit all over established, good standards we had down to a science already 30 years ago just to look good on screenshots, which should be punishable by law. You can sorta, kinda fight it with heavy customization and careful picking of your tools, but only to a degree and eventually you're just forced sometimes to use shit tier interfaces, at the very least when you go online. I think this is why so many long term and professional users favor text interfaces now. They are *not* always more efficent and as a heavy terminal user, I would never even claim this. But they are consistent which modern GUIs can only dream of nowadays.
I still use old computers with GUIs, like Sytem 7 era Macs, Win 9x PCs and Amigas occasionally and it's absolutely terrible that they feel better and more consistent to use than any modern OS GUI out of the box. What the fuck.
I've been doing computing since the 80s and the Amiga and I find it shocking how much UIs have regressed. 90s to early 00s was peak UI and it's only been downhill since then. The modern computer UI is not consistent (e.g. programs completely ignoring OS theming and just doing their own thing, causing a jarring experience on context switch). It is oversimplified. There is mobile cancer with many programs apparently developed for touchscreens which often are neither space efficent nor easy to use. There is also a constant change in UI paradigms because the people making these UIs create work for themselves to keep their jobs, completely killing efficency and the advantage of becoming familiar with anything. Also many UIs just piss and shit all over established, good standards we had down to a science already 30 years ago just to look good on screenshots, which should be punishable by law. You can sorta, kinda fight it with heavy customization and careful picking of your tools, but only to a degree and eventually you're just forced sometimes to use shit tier interfaces, at the very least when you go online. I think this is why so many long term and professional users favor text interfaces now. They are *not* always more efficent and as a heavy terminal user, I would never even claim this. But they are consistent which modern GUIs can only dream of nowadays.
I still use old computers with GUIs, like Sytem 7 era Macs, Win 9x PCs and Amigas occasionally and it's absolutely terrible that they feel better and more consistent to use than any modern OS GUI out of the box. What the fuck.
- Joined
- Aug 17, 2022
You need to press the Turbo button