The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Eternal Spirit of Light]

Since when does Microsoft do first-party support for consumers?

saaar

 

[teriyakiburns]

Like my big Linux buddy was shocked when I laid this all out about Android like what do you not think Android is what Google wants to happen with Chromium.

The choice is between Android (and its derivatives) and iOS, which isn't really much of a choice when you get down to it. Both spy on you and send reams of data back to their respective creators. Android claims to offer a little less direct interference in how you use the device and isn't tied into a closed ecosystem. Apple claims to offer a little more privacy.

I've tried alternative from time to time. I wanted to get a Planet Computers Astro GlideSlide and put Sailfish on it (which was developed from the Meego OS used on the Nokia N900 and N9), but the support was half-hearted at best and prior experience with Planet Computer's hardware made me reluctant to try again.

The real tragedy was the death of the N9 line from Nokia. It wiped the floor with Android and iOS both when it came out, but internal politics (and then Microsoft) killed it dead before it had the chance to really shine.

edit: Mixed up the phone with the personal lubricant.

 

[Betonhaus]

It all really depends. on Android the IMEI is just stored on a file in the device. There was xposed back in the day but not sure if that’s supported on the most recent versions of Android or if it is still maintained.

If you have a PinePhone you can change the IMEI on it easily thoughever. But idk if this will break carrier support.

Telecom companies are gay

I think most smartphones have the IMEI in software. I remember I once bought a Windows Phone 6.0 for $40 brand new, but only a different carrier had the 6.1 upgrade. I flashed the upgrade to it only to brick the radio because the IMEI got zeroed out and it was a CDMA phone so could no longer be activated.

 

[ZMOT]

I was dealing with Windows trouble on a relative's computer recently. It's funny. The people who mock Linux for being dependent on a command-line are totally out of touch with how Windows troubleshooting looks now.

if you skim the windows thread their core argument is "windows just werks", which means you never have to do anything like scanning for system files etc. or figure out how to fix it. so any argument about how windows is actually worse never apply since it doesn't happen anyway.

 

[Cool kitties club]

if you skim the windows thread their core argument is "windows just werks", which means you never have to do anything like scanning for system files etc. or figure out how to fix it. so any argument about how windows is actually worse never apply since it doesn't happen anyway.

Windows support will in most cases tell you to just reinstall Windows once you break it by breathing on it wrong, so being fixable doesn't matter. Most major Linux DE's (KDE, GNOME, Cinamon etc) all have a solid suite of GUI apps to solve most basic problems and you can usually solve any deeper issues with command line tools and you can fix most problems your self with enough research. I have also never had fedora atomic ever fail applying a new update meanwhile Windows had two instances of updating just crashing or corrupting during install cause a re installation to be needed. Hell i have turned off my steam deck while it was updating and it just rolled back to the older image and i just downloaded and applied it again lol. At-least windows has CLI updating options now so you can actually update your shit in one go rather then needing to hunt and peck for what apps need security updates or figuring out if your app auto updates vs needing to be manually reinstalled etc.

 

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The whole 'you need to use the command line to use Linux' thing is such bullshit. The only times I have ever had anything actually broken and needed to use command line utils to fix something, as opposed to just using them because they're convenient and responsive, were because I used to keep my kernel image up to date by just running apt-get upgrade constantly, and never cleaned up old kernel versions manually or by using apt-get autoremove so eventually I ended up without a properly built initramfs in the /boot volume to boot from.

Now, it was easy enough to chroot in and fix up the boot situation, but it never would have happened in the first place if I'd just left 'unattended-upgrades' to do its thing or used one of the GUI update managers that every Linux DE has.

EDIT:

tzdata (2024b-6) unstable; urgency=medium

   Previously, the tzdata package in Debian used the /etc/timezone file to
   configure the system's timezone. This method is not supported by systemd
   and certain desktop environments, which instead only change the
   /etc/localtime symlink to point to a file in /usr/share/zoneinfo.

   For this reason, starting with version 2024b-5, the tzdata package no
   longer automatically creates the /etc/timezone file, but still updates it
   if it exists. In a future release, support for the /etc/timezone file will
   be completely removed. The debian-installer from Trixie also no longer
   creates this file.

   The system's timezone configuration can still be done interactively using
   Debconf by reconfiguring the tzdata package, using 'dpkg-reconfigure
   tzdata'. The way to programmatically read or configure the system's
   timezone is described in /usr/share/doc/tzdata/README.Debian.

Kill Lennard Poettring Behead Lennart Puttering Pour hydroflouric acid into Poettrings anus who the fuck thought this was a good idea

 

[KingNothing]

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20250127

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

The whole 'you need to use the command line to use Linux' thing is such bullshit. The only times I have ever had anything actually broken and needed to use command line utils to fix something, as opposed to just using them because they're convenient and responsive, were because I used to keep my kernel image up to date by just running apt-get upgrade constantly, and never cleaned up old kernel versions manually or by using apt-get autoremove so eventually I ended up without a properly built initramfs in the /boot volume to boot from.

Now, it was easy enough to chroot in and fix up the boot situation, but it never would have happened in the first place if I'd just left 'unattended-upgrades' to do its thing or used one of the GUI update managers that every Linux DE has.

EDIT:

tzdata (2024b-6) unstable; urgency=medium

   Previously, the tzdata package in Debian used the /etc/timezone file to
   configure the system's timezone. This method is not supported by systemd
   and certain desktop environments, which instead only change the
   /etc/localtime symlink to point to a file in /usr/share/zoneinfo.

   For this reason, starting with version 2024b-5, the tzdata package no
   longer automatically creates the /etc/timezone file, but still updates it
   if it exists. In a future release, support for the /etc/timezone file will
   be completely removed. The debian-installer from Trixie also no longer
   creates this file.

   The system's timezone configuration can still be done interactively using
   Debconf by reconfiguring the tzdata package, using 'dpkg-reconfigure
   tzdata'. The way to programmatically read or configure the system's
   timezone is described in /usr/share/doc/tzdata/README.Debian.

Kill Lennard Poettring Behead Lennart Puttering Pour hydroflouric acid into Poettrings anus who the fuck thought this was a good idea

...Which means the Antix and Devuan side (no-systemd) have to acknowledge this mess too.

 

[AnOminous]

The whole 'you need to use the command line to use Linux' thing is such bullshit.

The whole "typing some words instead of clicking around for a half hour like a retard" thing is such bullshit.

 

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...Which means the Antix and Devuan side (no-systemd) have to acknowledge this mess too.

Yup, got this on my laptop running Devuan- one more thing where there's going to have to be an unnecessary bandaid to accommodate arbitrary changes.

On reading a bit more, it seems like this change is a lot less bad than most of Poettring's fuckwittery, because this is the way that the BSD's have done this since the 90s, so he isn't creating a completely new, worse standard like he normally does, he's just causing new problems on Linux for no good reason.

 

[TheDataHorder]

Can't you change your IMEI after rooting the phone?

you can, but depending on where you live it could be illegal. I've tried to find any information if it's allowed here or not, but even looking on our government's legislation site, i could not find anything.
in any case, your provider does have access to basic info about your phone that it provides (e.g manufacturer and model), and if you use the same sim on the same phone but with a different IMEI number, they'll notice and might cut you off.

 

[jeff7989]

Don't many chink phones from aliexpress use the same IMEI or is it just a myth?

Anyways, i tried to play with text-generation-webui on AMD card again and now finally it just works, well after setting environment variable "HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=11.0.0". It's in my /etc/profile now with all global variables,. Tried GPU offload with both llama.cpp and transformers.
Just a couple months ago it wouldn't work even with this small trick. Nice job AMD.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Ive noticed a double standard in the FOSS community of Chromium vs Android. I know so many people who refuse to use Chromium on principle because they see how the open source nature of it allows Google to spread its influence, but they just Ignore Android which is the same principle but worse and more successful because Google actually killed off any competitor phone OS's (China is doing some stuff there so who knows what'll happen next). Like my big Linux buddy was shocked when I laid this all out about Android like what do you not think Android is what Google wants to happen with Chromium.

use grapheneos.

Still android based. but it's a bit better.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

The choice is between Android (and its derivatives) and iOS, which isn't really much of a choice when you get down to it. Both spy on you and send reams of data back to their respective creators

At least with Android, you can run a firmware like LineageOS without Gapps. Not many people are going to, but that's what I do (90% of what I care about is in F-Droid. I pull in a tiny amount of stuff from Auora store). Android without Google services is nice and can add up to an extra day of battery life. I use DavX5 for calendar/contact sync to a CalDav/CardDav server I host. But I realize I'm in the 1% here. I realize GrapheneOS tries to cater to a larger audience, but most people aren't going to remove the bloat off a phone when they get it like people did back in the Windows 95 days. It does suck there isn't just one installer and ARM devices are incredibly difficult to make general purposes install images for.

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20250127

According to Lunduke, the censorship is just over Distrowatch.

Although Lunduke might be technically right here in that it's not "all Linux" and mostly Distrowatch .. but that's still bad. It's a pretty huge website and he's downplaying how Facebook has been crushing smaller sites for years.

 

[Fabio Socialist]

There's a deep irony that this problem, of mouse cursors basically not working properly, mainly shows up when running monitors at weird refresh rates (anything a Sony G520 can't display at)- a practice which for Wayland shills was supposedly justification for ditching decades of X perfection just so you can run different monitors at different randomly selected refresh rates.

*laughs in Amiga*

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

There's a deep irony that this problem, of mouse cursors basically not working properly, mainly shows up when running monitors at weird refresh rates (anything a Sony G520 can't display at)- a practice which for Wayland shills was supposedly justification for ditching decades of X perfection just so you can run different monitors at different randomly selected refresh rates.

Wait, was that supposed to be a problem in X? My desktop has about the weirdest monitor setup I've ever seen (one 1440p@75Hz main monitor and a 1080p@60Hz secondary that's mounted vertically) and I've never had an issue. It did have a thing for a while where it would default to mirroring the displays, but Super+P would correct it. An update fixed it before I ever got around to trying to find the root issue.

 

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Wait, was that supposed to be a problem in X? My desktop has about the weirdest monitor setup I've ever seen (one 1440p@75Hz main monitor and a 1080p@60Hz secondary that's mounted vertically) and I've never had an issue. It did have a thing for a while where it would default to mirroring the displays, but Super+P would correct it. An update fixed it before I ever got around to trying to find the root issue.

The claim is that using mixed refresh rates would induce 'screen tearing'. Now, you might be a simple country bumpkin who has never heard of this deeply disturbing problem, but let me explain. Apparently, if you have a very graphically complex area of the screen, say a YouTube video or a computer game that isn't maximized (very normal, who wants to watch a video in fullscreen?), and if you then (also very normal, very normal) randomly drag it around the higher refresh rate screen, things could start to look a bit weird momentarily like if you were using an older computer where it weren't quite catching up with the scanlines.

Now I've never experienced such a thing, but I am no screen expert. Why, when I'm watching the moving pictures on the tee-vee screen, I let it take up one whole monitor! I certainly aren't smart anuff to be randomly moving it around to test whether screen tearing occurs. Well, I hope you feel better educated.

Don't many chink phones from aliexpress use the same IMEI or is it just a myth?

Nah, I think this happened like once and it was with shit sold to Indians, which doesn't count.

There is not really any reason to use the same IMEI for more than one phone. If you aren't using a 'legit' IMEI, why not just generate a random IMEI, at least within a certain range? If those 13,000 shitty phones with the same IMEI had registered on a phone network anywhere but India that would have been flagged very rapidly.

 

[Friedrich Hayek's Ghost]

The claim is that using mixed refresh rates would induce 'screen tearing'.

Oh, is that what was doing that? I just assumed that it was my second monitor being literally the cheapest thing I found at Best Buy. It would tear if I scrolled something on that monitor while I had a video open on the main monitor.

 

[jONALD]

Ive been seeing screen tearing for years and it never bothers me to the point of complaint. At this point it feels like people are bitching just to bitch who sound like they can't live without max settings to fulfill their sunkcost from because they're a spec chasing retard. Latest and greatest isn't enough, things need time to mature so the edges can be smoothed out.

 

[Eternal Spirit of Light]

Is there a possibility of having DWM autostart neovim opened to a certain file on startup? I know I can use a shell script:

nvim ~/path/to/file/file.md

But if this is put in the .xinitrc it will just be in the background. Any way to have this be opened in an ST instance?