The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Trans Fat 41g]

Btrfs is useful if you want smaller snapshots on your Timeshift configuration, but other than that it's a bunch of moving parts and should be handled with caution like all newer technologies. Whenever I move to Antix I'm going to just stick to a basic ass ext4.

 

[snotang]

Either accept that Linux won't replace Windows unless it becomes Windows, which the Linux community is against, or give up your YotLD pipe dream once and for all.

I, for one, believe that merely becoming Windows isn't enough; Linux won't replace Windows until every atom of Bill Gates' body is emulated so that he can continue to recite his "letter to hobbyists" on their screens forever with perfectly-simulated aging.

Are you sure you wouldn't be more interested in creating "The ReactOS thread"? After all, it is not only pursuing what you seem to think the future of computing will be, it's also already far closer to it than Linux.

Alternatively, consider this modest proposal: since there is no force on Earth that can cause Windows to be replaced with anything but Windows for the population of Windows Users (for the mighty and powerful Slav Power has decreed it to be so), we could simply exterminate the current generation of Windows Users, and raise new computer users to use Linux. This is after all how sociopolitical attitudes and beliefs usually end up changing - people are seldom actually convinced or converted, they merely die and are replaced with someone with different views.

If we achieve the Year of the Linux Desktop through mass genocide, will you finally stop bitching about it? You write like someone has taped your eyes open and chained you to a chair staring at nothing but people sperging about the Year of the Linux Desktop. Legitimately, why do you care so much about this? I don't get the impression you're just "dropping by to give some helpful tips on how to achieve widespread adoption", since your view is that this is functionally impossible. Does seeing silly people on the internet (somewhere - presumably not here) talking with naive optimism drive you into some sort of frenzied rage?

Try installing an old game from a CD/DVD. On Windows it'll do it as it's, to an extent, the same OS as it was back in the 90's. Of course, if the game had a shitty DRM like SecuROM that no longer works on Windows (because it was that shit), then it won't work, but the same applies to Linux.

I have done exactly this with Age of Kings and Age of Conquerors and found that it works in WINE and not in any remotely modern Windows, because the SafeDisc kernel driver no longer exists in Windows, but a shim does exist in WINE.

My brother literally had to install Linux in a VM in order to play.

 

[HalHalliday]

I've been seeing lots of people recommend Win 10 LTSC claiming that it has less bloat & telemetry. Regarding bloat it does seem true to some extent, but the telemetry's all the same.

That's not how you do it. You get Win 10 LTSC and then customize the ISO, you can basically throw away everything you don't want. E.g. I can't even change the keyboard layout, because the program just isn't there. Once you install it, you can run custom scripts to disable things even further, or set up the enviro as you like.

 

[volatile puar]

I've seen gaming channels complain about how classic Win7 era games don't work properly under modern Windows. Sure, they run, but they don't work quite the way they're supposed to, which is a problem if you actually care about playing the game as it was intended. Troubles with old software is not exclusive to Linux, and quite frankly in most cases they probably work better on Linux and MacOS (even on Apple silicon) than on Windows because WINE does a better job at backwards compatibility than Windows.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

If we achieve the Year of the Linux Desktop through mass genocide, will you finally stop bitching about it? You write like someone has taped your eyes open and chained you to a chair staring at nothing but people sperging about the Year of the Linux Desktop. Legitimately, why do you care so much about this? I don't get the impression you're just "dropping by to give some helpful tips on how to achieve widespread adoption", since your view is that this is functionally impossible. Does seeing silly people on the internet (somewhere - presumably not here) talking with naive optimism drive you into some sort of frenzied rage?

Slav will just ping Null with an unhinged text wall begging for him to turn the conversation his direction.

 

[Slav Power]

If we achieve the Year of the Linux Desktop through mass genocide, will you finally stop bitching about it?

You've started talking about genociding Windows users, not me. If you take operating systems this seriously, maybe it's time to calm down. Since you have troubles with basic reading comprehension, I didn't say "Linux should become Windows", I said "Linux won't overtake Windows and that's fine".

Legitimately, why do you care so much about this?

Reminder that I wasn't the one to initiate the "Linux will take over Windows because Windows X is shit" discussion here. So let me ask you this: why do you care so much about Windows? I thought it's been established that Linux won't be Windows and will never be Windows, and the Linux community doesn't want Windows users because they're all nigger cattle, yet here we are with the same old "preinstalled Windows is the issue" schtick.

Though I get it, Nick Alinsky's playbook of accusing your opponent of the thing that you yourself are doing. Except this isn't a political debate thread, this is an operating system thread. It's like Milwaukee vs Makita, and you're getting this emotional about what brand of power tools people use and how if Makita supported Milwaukee batteries then suddenly no one would be buying Milwaukee tools. Stop taking this shit so seriously and calm down.

Slav will just ping Null with an unhinged text wall begging for him to turn the conversation his direction.

Nah, I'm expecting you and all the usual culprits to cry to Null to make the Linux thread, if not the entirety of the I&T board, the same type of hugbox as the Man Hate Thread or the Ukraine War threads given how you always stop thinking and get emotional when someone criticizes Linux in any way.

 

[Noyciciw]

is Mint really the best option for beginners?

I've never used mint before, but I hear a lotta good things about it. Manjaro was my first distro, and I think it's a solid beginner choice as well.

 

[Slav Power]

Manjaro was my first distro, and I think it's a solid beginner choice as well.

Manjaro is based on Arch, and Arch is like a sand castle. You popped "pacman -Syu" without reading the Arch front page? Oops, the entire OS is gone. Mint on the other hand is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian, which is the most rock stable combo that you can ask for in the Linux realm. It's Ubuntu but not retarded, and there is a good reason why Mint is constantly recommended as a good beginner's distro.

Not MX Linux, not Manjaro, Mint. No point in recommending anything else to a beginner, unless you want them to get burnt on their first Linux experience.

 

[Noyciciw]

what can I really use? Should I just install Arch on it?

Arch, or any of it's forks, or any minimalist distro should work fine enough (probably not Gentoo unless you wanna spend a month installing all your software.). I run a pretty crappy laptop, on EndeavourOS. It's actually my daily driver, and asside from the long boot times every morning, it runs alright enough.

 

[Slav Power]

Arch, or any of it's forks, or any minimalist distro should work fine enough (probably not Gentoo unless you wanna spend a month installing all your software.). I run a pretty crappy laptop, on EndeavourOS. It's actually my daily driver, and asside from the long boot times every morning, it runs alright enough.

Oh my fucking god okay.

Here's an analogy. You have a driver that drove nothing but automatic gearboxes, and how he's asking for a beginner car with a manual transmission to get the hang of it.

The reasonable suggestion from someone who drove everything from modern cars to oldtimers would be something used from 5-10 years ago. You don't have to worry about anything really, just get in and drive, learn how to operate the clutch, it's easy, you get the hang of it fast. He drove all sorts of cars and met all sorts of people in the 20 years he's been a gearhead so he understands that he is not everyone, people have different needs, they don't want to deal with issues, and he knows how to make a good recommendation.

The unreasonable suggestion from an oldtimer lunatic would be a rust bucket from the 1960's. Yes, you gotta work on everything yourself and shit keeps breaking because it's a 6 fucking decade old car, but it's ackshually a good thing because there are no computers, it has a mechanical carbeurator and you can take it apart and put it back together with a wrench and a hammer. He drove them for 20 years and only met the same lunatics as him so he believes everyone can do it and it's only reasonable that everyone has the same expectation as him, and that everyone has the resilience to deal with issues like having to dance with the accelerator to not let the engine stall on idle because it's fucked.

You're that lunatic gearhead that's telling a beginner to get a rust bucket. That beginner will get angry when he faces a problem he can't solve because he doesn't have the same knowledge as you do and get mad at all manual gearbox cars altogether.

In other words, plain Debian is also a lightweight distro that would do just as well, Arch is not the only lightweight distro in existence, and having "long boot times every morning" on an Arch install shouldn't be something you get used to, but something you deal with and fix since every other distro, and Windows, don't tend to have those nowadays, unless you run off of a hard drive.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Nah, I'm expecting you and all the usual culprits to cry to Null to make the Linux thread, if not the entirety of the I&T board, the same type of hugbox as the Man Hate Thread or the Ukraine War threads given how you always stop thinking and get emotional when someone criticizes Linux in any way.

You say this, but then pull this shit right here:

Oh my fucking god okay.

Here's an analogy. You have a driver that drove nothing but automatic gearboxes, and how he's asking for a beginner car with a manual transmission to get the hang of it.

The reasonable suggestion from someone who drove everything from modern cars to oldtimers would be something used from 5-10 years ago. You don't have to worry about anything really, just get in and drive, learn how to operate the clutch, it's easy, you get the hang of it fast. He drove all sorts of cars and met all sorts of people in the 20 years he's been a gearhead so he understands that he is not everyone, people have different needs, they don't want to deal with issues, and he knows how to make a good recommendation.

The unreasonable suggestion from an oldtimer lunatic would be a rust bucket from the 1960's. Yes, you gotta work on everything yourself and shit keeps breaking because it's a 6 fucking decade old car, but it's ackshually a good thing because there are no computers, it has a mechanical carbeurator and you can take it apart and put it back together with a wrench and a hammer. He drove them for 20 years and only met the same lunatics as him so he believes everyone can do it and it's only reasonable that everyone has the same expectation as him, and that everyone has the resilience to deal with issues like having to dance with the accelerator to not let the engine stall on idle because it's fucked.

You're that lunatic gearhead that's telling a beginner to get a rust bucket. That beginner will get angry when he faces a problem he can't solve because he doesn't have the same knowledge as you do and get mad at all manual gearbox cars altogether.

All I'm saying, take a long look in the mirror and calm down lol.

 

[HalHalliday]

I don't want to upgrade to Windows 11 so I decided to bite the bullet and learn Linux, is Mint really the best option for beginners?

I think after Windows, the best beginner Linux distro, that offers the most freedom, is: nothing. Don't fall deeper into the abyss. Ditch the machine. Throw away your devices. Burn down the data farms. Let the technological society crumble. Be free.
Or you can try Mint and go from there. It's okay to distro hop for a while.

 

[Ferryman]

Arch, or any of it's forks, or any minimalist distro should work fine enough (probably not Gentoo unless you wanna spend a month installing all your software.). I run a pretty crappy laptop, on EndeavourOS. It's actually my daily driver, and asside from the long boot times every morning, it runs alright enough.

The TRVLY perfect recommendation would be AntiX, unironically. Debian based, very minimalist and especially made to run on older machines. I've hopped distros quite a bit and AntiX / Slackware run the best on my old X230 from circa 2012, though I wouldn't recommend the latter to someone who isn't willing to handle manual dependency resolution.

 

[volatile puar]

@Slav Power You are either trolling (which is likely since you brand yourself with a pink triangle) or you are so offended at the idea of someone using Arch, btw, that you forgot how to read.

 

[Slav Power]

The TRVLY perfect recommendation would be AntiX, unironically.

You know, maybe people were too harsh on Ubuntu's Unity being bad for Linux first impressions.

 

[Ferryman]

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You know, maybe people were too harsh on Ubuntu's Unity being bad for Linux first impressions.

Boo hoo nigga they have no formal CoC, no real forum jannying unless you go around calling people niggers, and they hate systemd. That alone puts them leaps and BOUNDS ahead of the cuck faggots that gladly slurp corpo cock in the wake of what happened with X11. Even a brief skim of the forums shows that despite the frontloading, politics take a back seat there. Could give a fuck if someone is left/right so long as their project is what it says on the tin. Same reason I've no beef with Francis Rowe of Libreboot eventhough he's a total faggot. Something about books and covers comes to mind.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

All I'm saying, take a long look in the mirror and calm down lol.

That's why I ended up just giving the hint I was messing with them way back. I realized it was too easy, and I started feeling bad. And it wasn't fun for me anymore. Gonna be honest I did regret giving it away a bit later. Since they seemed to just get worse afterwards.

It was 4 sentences. And you wrote a wall of text, seemingly without making it past the first one. Because In the second I said, even if you aren't completely cutting out proprietary software.

Honestly I love the Linux thread. Nothing as fun as pissing off other Linux users for no reason.

 

[Slav Power]

them

they

Who are "they"?

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Who are "they"?

Sorry I didn't want to mess up your pronouns and offend you.

 

[Blackhole]

Remember when Null told the homopole that he was the only person he had on ignore, and he had such a moid meltdown he changed his profile to a black void then left the site for months? It's a shame he didn't stay gone, but I guess he doesn't have anything else in his life. Sad.