The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Bruno Powroznik]

AUR sisters, did you get pwned?

https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur-general@lists.archlinux.org/thread/7EZTJXLIAQLARQNTMEW2HBWZYE626IFJ/

The guy who did this was ether so retarded he did it using an account tied to his real name or was so retarded he reused passwords that let a bad actor gain access to his account.

If you look up "danikpapas" you get a huggingface account with his name on it. He has since changed the name to a generic one but its still cached on search engines right now



To confirm that this is his real name i searched it on breachs and yep it is

Spoiler: breaches

twitter.com

email	danikpapas@email.cz
username	DanielZierl
name	Daniel Zierl
domain	email.cz
categories	social
created	Mon May 14 13:50:29 +0000 2018

Wattpad

email	danikpapas@email.cz
username	Zielonius
password	$2y$10$6MUNPLHfvYM22KlvkqZPKeTdXSpcdvNZQSP47HfzMWjQ/YUjcqiXm
domain	email.cz
categories	social,media,art
country	CZ
createdate	2016-12-01 19:17:24

000webhost.com

email	danikpapas@email.cz
ip	212.79.110.5
password	kulisak1
name	Koppov?í
domain	email.cz
categories	hosting

Canva

email	danikpapas@email.cz
username	danikpapas
name	Dongo von Zomong
domain	email.cz
categories	media,design
create_date	2018-10-03 07:13:16
display_name	Dongo von Zomong
locale	cs-CZ

canva.com

email	danikpapas@email.cz
username	danikpapas
name	Dongo von Zomong
domain	email.cz
categories	art,media
create_date	2018-10-03 07:13:16
deactivated	0
hash	$2a$10$rDauRJ43ajdhX2Ub8p2KHOkrJaPbJvAOaY7pZLVbEDUDRXe0.Z5yq
id	93801801
id_hash	UADE_2sO_Uw
locale	cs-CZ
mail_status	V
personal_brand	93289891
personal_brand_id	BADE_wPnbRk
roles	U
temporary	0
ui_info	{seenMobileExpDialog:true}

As you can see he was part of 000webhost which stored passwords in plaintext.

So what do you guys think? Was he the one behind the malicious AUR packages or did he get pwned by reusing passwords? Personally i'm leaning on the latter.

 

[AnOminous]

As long as someone forks it and maintains it properly, and no "too many cooks" situation happens where everyone is just forking and forking and forking with no one being able to focus on maintaining and contributing to one of these forks.

Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

 

[wafflesies]

But isn't Clear Linux just compiling optimizations? Any distro can do that. Especially Gentoo (which did have an article for that?) You don't really need a unique distro for that.

im not sure what optimizations clear linux is doing but i do know how gentoo does them, and its by compiling packages for your cpu flags
cachyos also does this, giving you different repos for different cpu types

 

[Banana Hammock]

So, I'm on Mint right now, and one thing stands out as a potential issue for me. Can you not create desktop shortcuts on linux?

 

[Betonhaus]

So, I'm on Mint right now, and one thing stands out as a potential issue for me. Can you not create desktop shortcuts on linux?

drag and drop seems to work fine for me, what kind of desktop shortcuts are you trying?

 

[ZMOT]

drag and drop seems to work fine for me, what kind of desktop shortcuts are you trying?

he might be using gnome, iirc the footfags see no use case for having shortcuts on the desktop.

 

[Banana Hammock]

drag and drop seems to work fine for me, what kind of desktop shortcuts are you trying?

Drag-and-drop makes shortcuts in Linux? I'll have to try that when I get back from the store. I was trying to make a shortcut to a flash game that I have in my games folder.

 

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he might be using gnome, iirc the footfags see no use case for having shortcuts on the desktop.

Might be the thing they're least wrong about. Don't we all just launch stuff- whether on Windows or most Linux desktop environments- by hitting the meta key (or something like meta-d or meta-r if we're using i3 or similar WMs), typing the first few letters of the application, and hitting enter?

 

[Dread First]

I think endeavor is really the recommended easy to use arch distro. Manjaro will give you problems because of how they manage packages. Artix is fine if you actually know what you are doing with your init systems. But if you don't, and you want arch, without actually learning about how to install or use arch. Endeavor is probably going to be the best bet. Otherwise probably just install arch.

>not recommending ArchBang as the one true lazy man's Arch Linux

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

My first distro was Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit on an old ass HP computer tower with a dual core Intel Celeron CPU and 1 GB of RAM. Reason why I jumped ship was precisely because I never did a "clean" install of Windows 7, instead opting to "upgrade" from OEM Windows Vista that already succumbed to Windows rot by 2008. Truthfully? It was a vast and truly wonderful experience. I spent more time combing through Linux shit than I did doing my Algebra, biology, and global history homework. This was shortly after Canonical ditched the red/orange/white colour scheme from Jaunty Jackalope, pivoting into the violets. From my perspective at the time, Ubuntu was just good enough for me to do all my English essays in LibreOffice, and the OOXML compatibility was just good enough for me to finish working on papers in the school library on those old ass Dell Optiplexes from 2002 that still ran Windows XP.

Good Lord, it was almost 15 years ago and it still feels like OpenOffice.org was still a thing, that Java SE 5 was the last "good" Java version before Oracle shitcanned everything, CentOS 6 just came out and it was using upstart instead of SysV and a little before the transition to systemd, GNOME 3 just came out and so many distros were holding out on GNOME 2.32 until MATE came out, the list goes on and on.

 

[Betonhaus]

Drag-and-drop makes shortcuts in Linux? I'll have to try that when I get back from the store. I was trying to make a shortcut to a flash game that I have in my games folder.

you have to hold down ctrl and shift

 

[gampboonerisms]

also might be worth checking whats up in pavucontrol if it's available on your system, it should work with pipewire-pulse
has solved many issues for me

Sound in Linux might as well be fucking black magic

so, my previous problem was sound was popping and the video acting like the space bar was being pressed so it was playingpausingplayingpausing until i did some kind of click out. I don't know what the fuck was going on with the computer, cause at the same time i was unable to move brave tabs, and had to click out of the brave browser for pages to load.

did some updating. got alsa to break and restart. downloaded pavu(i didn't need it but thanks for the reminder).

protonvpn broke and i had to purge everything proton related from the comp, had to manually delete the kill switch in nmcli, rip protonvpn out by the fingernails by searching apt list --installed and i finally got everything to work. i was on the brink of installing arch. it's good to have your shit fuck up sometimes just so you can remember how bad it was in ubuntu 6.0 lol

 

[Banana Hammock]

drag and drop seems to work fine for me, what kind of desktop shortcuts are you trying?

you have to hold down ctrl and shift

Yeah, that did it. Thank you.

 

[Zeftax]

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

IIRC I tried ubuntu first because back then it was unanimously the most recommended "noob distro" (nowadays that's mint, for very good reasons). It was bad and I hated it, the apple-like UI felt even worse than windows and I haven't read anything about how linux works so installing software left me frustrated. I gave up after a few days. I do not remember the reason for trying it out, maybe just curiosity.
After some time, I tried out Manjaro, I think mostly because I was feeling more and more schizo about windows spying - although I don't think I felt too strongly about it back then. It still wasn't pleasant, I didn't see the point and it still just felt like "knockoff windows".
Then again, around late 2019 or early 2020 (I know it was just before corona, manjaro must have been ~2018, ubuntu no idea), I was watching youtube and Luke Smiths videos have been showing me just how good linux can be if you configure it yourself and familiarize yourself with the tools you want to use. So I gave arch a try from his guide, used LARBS, too, modified that to suit me, since he included a helpful guide for doing that. For a few weeks I was dual-booting, and using both windows and linux, but gradually I was just using linux more and more because it genuinely felt better to use than windows.
I have to say that having to do a lot of that manual work and reading some of the wiki during arch install definitely helped me understand more about how linux works - and thus made me not give up due to a lack of knowledge like previously.
I still have a dual boot setup on my main PC, I keep the old windows partition in case I ever want to play any game - because I don't want to bother with wine and such for inferior experience, but I almost never use it. Last time I booted it was when KCD2 came out.
Nowadays I'm playing around with OpenBSD/Gentoo for my server, and I want to try out Antix/Artix on my laptop to see if I can use it instead of arch to avoid systemd.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

so, my previous problem was sound was popping and the video acting like the space bar was being pressed so it was playingpausingplayingpausing until i did some kind of click out. I don't know what the fuck was going on with the computer, cause at the same time i was unable to move brave tabs, and had to click out of the brave browser for pages to load.

did some updating. got alsa to break and restart. downloaded pavu(i didn't need it but thanks for the reminder).

protonvpn broke and i had to purge everything proton related from the comp, had to manually delete the kill switch in nmcli, rip protonvpn out by the fingernails by searching apt list --installed and i finally got everything to work. i was on the brink of installing arch. it's good to have your shit fuck up sometimes just so you can remember how bad it was in ubuntu 6.0 lol

Funny. everyone tells me debian based distros don't break. But if you run arch, everything will fall apart.

@ZMOT he might be using gnome, iirc the footfags see no use case for having shortcuts on the desktop.

what are you? a windows nigger?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Funny. everyone tells me debian based distros don't break. But if you run arch, everything will fall apart.

Anything can run well enough if you have the skills.
Except systemd. Fuck that pile of steaming garbage.

 

[TJT]

Kernel 6.15 on Fedora is still causing me a lot of pain. My only goal is that all of my shit that works on 6.14 also works on 6.15. This is so far not the case. When I try to implement everything into the initramfs, even with expected updates I keep getting a Kernel panic. Guess it needs to cook for awhile as the async nature of some of the stuff I use will take a bit to catch up.

I do like that I can fuck with the kernel init from the working one. That has been pretty fun to do.

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

My first linux experience was with Red Hat in the early 00s. Even as a basement dwelling computer nerd it was a very daunting experience. Goes without saying that computer technology was much different then and despite how much I enjoyed tinkering with computers reading volumes of Red Hat technical manuals I found at the public library or got my parents to buy me got tiring. Serious I was such a nerd that when I turned 14 I asked for the book below for my birthday and received it. I made good progress now and again but I lacked a great deal of the fundamental knowledge I have now as my primary means of guidance came from older nerds in my rural community or primitive online forums that we enjoy to this day. I eventually abandoned it as at some point my second harddrive died on me and I had no way of partitioning my 10TB drive in a way that made sense for what was actually important to me as a teenager. Playing vidya on my computer. I was never able to get graphics cards to work at all on Linux and I understand now that lack of support to make early graphics cards work in linux would be an understatement. You really had to DIY all of it and that was far beyond my understanding then.

Linux today might as well be a different universe unless you want to be a gay masochist and use something like Arch because you can, or at least think you can, tinker with low level computer systems effectively and DIY most issues you come across. I am far too old for that shit. There is a great deal of value in "it just works thanks." Which is why I also have a macbook.

All the big boys use Linux and praise it as some holy shit, so I tried it for the first time a long time ago, which was an OpenSUSE back then. I tried to get used to it, which was very hard. Majorly used it for browsing, tbh. At some point, opening any kind of window started to take around 10 minutes. It was fine after a re-install, but then the issue started again. Went back to Windows right after that.

This sounds like that snapshot feature that some distros have. They would take tons of snapshots of your system/config/etc and you have to manage them or it makes everything go to shit. I forget which distros do this. These kind of quirky features keep it interesting though!

Linux nerds I knew seemed like geniuses when it came to technical problem solving.

This is an undocumented side benefit of using Linux. It forces you to keep those skills sharp. Or you have a Kernel Panic on a Tuesday, give up and go back to Windows!

 

[Susanna]

This is an undocumented side benefit of using Linux. It forces you to keep those skills sharp. Or you have a Kernel Panic on a Tuesday, give up and go back to Windows!

What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.

 

[TJT]

What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.

I constantly fuck with it. Why else? In this case I had a number of custom things using dubious solutions I put together to make this or that work on Linux.

Like why would I bother with Linux at all and not constantly dick around with it? Some of these distros have literally no guardrails to prevent you from derailing your system. Sometimes permanently and you need a fresh install.

One of the things that breaks Kernel 6.15 is jerry rigging it to use some Microsoft firmware and thus let you use the Xbox controller normally. There's some entirely separate way to do this now and even having the old format in the initrams will cause 6.15 to panic. It works fine in 6.14 though.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

What are you guys doing to get so many kernel panics? I only ever get those when I try my hand at overclocking memory, because overclocking memory is beyond my level of skill.

The only time I've ever had a kernel panic, I was doing something in either /sys or /proc and some recursive thing I did in that directory caused an issue. It might not have even technically been a kernel panic, maybe it triggered the bug screen Or whatever they call it.

That and once when I was messing around with swapping around init systems manually, i didn't set up things correctly, and it caused kernel panics on boot, because the things the kernel expected to be there, weren't there.

I don't think I've ever had a kernel panic that just happened on it's own though. It was always something i caused myself.

 

[Baguette Child]

I don't think I've ever had a kernel panic that just happened on it's own though. It was always something i caused myself.

I mean... if you haven't caused at least a few kernel panics as a linux user, can you even call that living?