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Unintelligence Score said:
I didn't see the video, but the website owner must have forgotten to install every single adware client tracker under the sun like everyone else does. Hopefully he'll fix that soon otherwise visitors might end up with the wrong idea thinking that websites aren't supposed to be slow as fuck and probe their anus every time their mouse moves as much as a single pixel.
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It makes sense that McMaster-Carr isn't an ad-ridden piece of shit. Mostly because of who the site is catering to. It's for machinists, mechanics, people that do all kinds of metalwork, an fabrication. All they would do by running 30 adds on every page, trackers, and unnecessary ui bullshit. Is annoy their customer base, who absolutely does no give a fuck if the website is flashy or not, and would almost certainly rather have something simple that works well, so they can get their materials ordered, and move on with their day.

Meanwhile, most modern sites have the goal of keeping people on it, as long as they can. Preferably you will never close it.
 
Ou yeah it makes sense that McMaster Carr would be a lean website, their purpose is to sell shit that people assume exists but don't know the exact details for, and ads and shit would slow that down. It's the fucking Sandvik website that is so slow and buggy because they refuse to tell you any prices until you go though hoops
 
Betonhaus said:
Ou yeah it makes sense that McMaster Carr would be a lean website, their purpose is to sell shit that people assume exists but don't know the exact details for, and ads and shit would slow that down. It's the fucking Sandvik website that is so slow and buggy because they refuse to tell you any prices until you go though hoops
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Yeah. That's not too surprising. A lot of the sites for suppliers are like that I've noticed. Ones where you aren't a shop, or an individual buying small to medium quantities of something, but rather the expectation is buying some kind of bulk of material (like tons of steel). Those sites pretty much purely function as an advertisement, and they seemingly put a lot of effort into making them as useless, and "professional looking" (idk what the best way to describe it would be here) as they can be. Because they have no intention of selling anything to anyone through the site. If anything I imagine it's just to have a thing to point people to when trying to do some kind of deal, or maybe talking with investors. And because they need to have some kind of web presence in the modern world. Since they aren't going to even give a price on the site. Since they work that out with the customer after talking to them,, and it will have a heavy dependence on the amount they are buying.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
Yeah. That's not too surprising. A lot of the sites for suppliers are like that I've noticed. Ones where you aren't a shop, or an individual buying small to medium quantities of something, but rather the expectation is buying some kind of bulk of material (like tons of steel). Those sites pretty much purely function as an advertisement, and they seemingly put a lot of effort into making them as useless, and "professional looking" (idk what the best way to describe it would be here) as they can be. Because they have no intention of selling anything to anyone through the site. If anything I imagine it's just to have a thing to point people to when trying to do some kind of deal, or maybe talking with investors. And because they need to have some kind of web presence in the modern world. Since they aren't going to even give a price on the site. Since they work that out with the customer after talking to them,, and it will have a heavy dependence on the amount they are buying.
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It sucks because for our company our main purchaser isn't familliar with machining and doesn't know what half the things I need are, even basic shit like grooving inserts. So i guess he has some slow back and forth with the supplier trying to figure out what to order, and I can't help because Sandvik literally locks half it's site behind a paywall where you need an account linked to your company's billing information to use it. Makes me wish I just had a plain old 500 page paper catalog, not the dumb ass flyers that only show what's on sale
 
Anyone here use PopOS? I was thinking about throwing it on my gaming computer when Windows 10 Support ends but I'm not sure.
 
Big League said:
Anyone here use PopOS? I was thinking about throwing it on my gaming computer when Windows 10 Support ends but I'm not sure.
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I used to run it, but I don't recommend it anymore. Their latest release is old as hell (22.04) and they went all in on their tiling cosmic thing, so there's not going to be a new release until that's ready.

If you don't have any strong distro opinions, just go with Mint. And if you really like the way popos looks, you can just install gnome and and their extension
 
Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 said:
just install gnome and and their extension
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Running Javascript on the Desktop shell before Windows 11 made it cool
 
Post in thread 'Open Source Software Community' https://kiwifarms.net/threads/open-source-software-community.38130/post-22597293

Posted in the open source thread. Drew Devault doing what he does. It's crazy he's still saying "hyprland is run by fascists" Varxry if anything is like some kind of centerist, or neutral guy, from what I've seen from him. He really doesn't seem political.

But he isn't the main topic. It's omarchy, and ladybird. Along with cloudflare for funding them.
 
HildegardOrgonAkkumulator said:
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Running Javascript on the Desktop shell before Windows 11 made it cool
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In defense of Gnome... yes, yes, there's a javascript engine but they don't run a full browser to display a fucking start menu, like Windows does.

Now there is the little problem that the 'extension' that you need to run if you want to do radical things like 'display desktop icons' will eat all the memory on your system. But that's not Javascript's fault, it's Gnome's.
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Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 said:
I used to run it, but I don't recommend it anymore. Their latest release is old as hell (22.04) and they went all in on their tiling cosmic thing, so there's not going to be a new release until that's ready.

If you don't have any strong distro opinions, just go with Mint. And if you really like the way popos looks, you can just install gnome and and their extension
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I'm using mint on my laptop but I was looking for something to switch my gaming PC over to.

Some linux podcast I was watching said PopOS was good for Nvidia but maybe I should consider something else if it's lagging behind
 
Big League said:
I'm using mint on my laptop but I was looking for something to switch my gaming PC over to.

Some linux podcast I was watching said PopOS was good for Nvidia but maybe I should consider something else if it's lagging behind
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It's better for nvidia in the way that the proprietary driver is enabled out of the box, compared to every other distro where you have to click one button in something called Driver Manager or thereabout. Just don't get the nvidia driver from their website, that's a trap. It defaults to en-in for a reason

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Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 said:
It's better for nvidia in the way that the proprietary driver is enabled out of the box, compared to every other distro where you have to click one button in something called Driver Manager or thereabout. Just don't get the nvidia driver from their website, that's a trap. It defaults to en-in for a reason

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Oh okay maybe I'll just go with Arch or something by then.
 
Big League said:
I'm using mint on my laptop but I was looking for something to switch my gaming PC over to.

Some linux podcast I was watching said PopOS was good for Nvidia but maybe I should consider something else if it's lagging behind
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PopOS hasn't been updated for 3.5 years, and when I tried it back then, it would be quite unstable. One recurring issue with many Linux distros for me has been that they somehow manage to corrupt the file system and/or bootloader and then refuse to boot properly, if at all. Same with Nobara, which is commonly recommended as the gaming distro. Except it's just that.

Only the enterprise-oriented distros have done a good job for me, like Rocky Linux (free version of RHEL), or Proxmox (Debian-based type 1 hypervisor). I don't use those for gaming, though.

Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 said:
It's better for nvidia in the way that the proprietary driver is enabled out of the box, compared to every other distro where you have to click one button in something called Driver Manager or thereabout. Just don't get the nvidia driver from their website, that's a trap. It defaults to en-in for a reason
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Copy the link, then change the en-in to en-us. Problem solved.
 
Get Phobo said:
PopOS hasn't been updated for 3.5 years, and when I tried it back then, it would be quite unstable. One recurring issue with many Linux distros for me has been that they somehow manage to corrupt the file system and/or bootloader and then refuse to boot properly, if at all. Same with Nobara, which is commonly recommended as the gaming distro. Except it's just that
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Frankly that's insane. At that point you might as well declare Pop OS temporarily discontinued until the new version comes out. If they are so consumed with rewriting Cosmic in Rust to the point that they have neglected to keep their current version somewhat up to date, that's not really a good sign that you should ever use their distro, even when the new one comes out
 
Big League said:
Oh okay maybe I'll just go with Arch or something by then.
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My time with Arch on my 3080ti has been almost completely painless as long as I make sure to avoid launching my DE in Wayland. I get the distaste for nvidia's closed source shit, but performance has been on par with Windows (sometimes better, but that comes down purely to not having background shit running). The only challenge I'm having is that as KDE approaches twink-death by removing x11 support, I'll have to jump to something else and I just haven't found out what yet. XFCE4 seemed like an option and I got to a point that it was good for desktop and web browsing, but for some reason just couldn't handle playing games on. I think I was reading that it was something to do with a compositor, but I get so little time to use my PC now that it's easier to just go back to KDE with the plasma-x11-session package.
 
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