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cigint said:
He is right though. Linux is based on the UNIX design, which is based on the idea that the faculty can only afford one computer and they need to share it between at most 32767 users. Nigga, your physical interface to your Linux kernel is still called a teletype.

Desktop users really don't need user ids and groups and file permissions etc. we're married to these things and use Linux because the guy who was making an actual microkernel at the time Linus started working on Linux Freax, decided that his microkernel is too genius to give away for free, and Linus was willing to distribute his kernel for free. That's the only reason.
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what? Windows has those? Maybe not the exact version linux has. But they have the admin account. They have file permissions. They have all of that stuff, implemented in their own way.

It would be dumb for any system to not have them. It doesn't matter if it's a modern desktop user. For security you need a way to separate privileged. It's not like the main purpose of their use on linux is separating accounts on a share system anymore. (although that is handy because there are a lot of linux servers). On the desktop they are still just as necessary.

Also I think microkernels were way too over-hyped at the time. There is a reason all of the systems people actually use are no microkernels. Instead are monolithic, or hybrid kernels.
 
Creative Username said:
NEVER
do this. if you install drivers off a website on gnu/linux you should just go back to windows
yes it seems to run great right after you install it but then you do a kernel upgrade and hilarious things start happening
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If you want your computer to work you should just go back to windows. Correct.
 
Angie Wormwood said:
There's a number of reasons that there's multiple accounts on a machine, even with a sole human user.

Many applications create an account to run things as. This is not just for security separation. Security-adjacent it's for any services you may be running that do not or should not be running as root, for example. This is due to children inheritance of ownership and permission.

There's a reason why on a typical system user UIDs start at 1000. Even on something locked-down and stripped-down you'll still have at least a dozen other users present.
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You're replying to the wrong guy, it seems.
 
Private Tag Reporter said:
I've just learned about Omarchy and apparently it's:

based
linux
pre-configured

Can someone sell me on it as a daily driver to replace Win 10 or is it a meme?
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it's a tiling window manager, which means you can't click and drag windows to move them or resize them anywhere you want, you have to use keyboard shortcuts for that. Are you willing to learn all the keyboard shortcuts?
 
Private Tag Reporter said:
I've just learned about Omarchy and apparently it's:

based
linux
pre-configured

Can someone sell me on it as a daily driver to replace Win 10 or is it a meme?
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I'm curious about this too. I tried to set up a vm but it wasn't in working in virtualbox.
Idk, maybe user error on my part.
 
Betonhaus said:
it's a tiling window manager, which means you can't click and drag windows to move them or resize them anywhere you want, you have to use keyboard shortcuts for that. Are you willing to learn all the keyboard shortcuts?
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That's wrong. Hyprland does let you do that if you want.

You can both resize them and move them while tiled with the mouse. Or you could make them float and do the same thing. But either way you can use the mouse for it if you want.

You just aren't going to be taking full advantage of what hyprland can do
 
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Nice Stick said:
If you want your computer to work you should just go back to windows. Correct.
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well maybe you want your computer to work as a glownigger adtech jeet spying device with integrated desktop ad "experiences" but i don't so i will continue to use and promote superior libre alternatives
Private Tag Reporter said:
I've just learned about Omarchy and apparently it's:

based
linux
pre-configured

Can someone sell me on it as a daily driver to replace Win 10 or is it a meme?
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it is a meme since any arch derivative will always be a meme
do you want a daily driver to replace win10 as a drop-in? literally just use mint, it's pretty fucking good for that
omarchy's main use case seems to be for retarded macfags trying to look cool
bashe said:
I'm curious about this too. I tried to set up a vm but it wasn't in working in virtualbox.
Idk, maybe user error on my part.
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last time i tried arch in virtualbox, it fucked up. that's not a big deal for me though, because qemu is better. use qemu instead
 
Creative Username said:
last time i tried arch in virtualbox, it fucked up. that's not a big deal for me though, because qemu is better. use qemu instead
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Interesting. I remember using QEMU the last time I was playing with something arch-based (artix) . I guess virtualbox issues are probably why.
 
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Literally one day after I argue with @Creative Username in this thread about Windows being more stable than Linux and then I see this:
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Only a decade ago this kind of shit would be unthinkable in a stable Windows update and it seems like it's just becoming the norm now. I hate Indians.
 
The GNOME issue tracker continues to be a source of comedy. This issue was linked in response to someone asking why GNOME launchers for stuff that runs under Xwayland like Steam games fall back to generic placeholders:

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So unless I am mistaken, Wayland actually has a solution for this and it's implemented by a ton of other compositors, but GNOME devs refuse to implement it into Mutter and gnome-shell even as a fallback because GNOME set some standard for their desktop in the Cretaceous era and because of that this dude "don't want to do it". - If devs dont adhere to what GNOME tells them to do, then they can just live with the apps looking broken!

Meanwhile Sebastian Keller is in there telling people that they can manually create .desktop launchers with WM_Classes for every application. :story:

The Noise said:
Only a decade ago this kind of shit would be unthinkable in a stable Windows update and it seems like it's just becoming the norm now. I hate Indians.
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IIRC Microsoft fired a bunch of people doing in house testing of updates, and I assume they have outsourced it. If so the jeets are obv just taking the money and not doing their job correctly, classic stuff. I use both Windows and Linux and I have noticed like you that the update quality of Microsoft has gone down the non-existent Indian toilet lately. DirectX just fucking froze my entire computer in a game I was playing after an update. I was told by the dev that it was a problem due to the update and they had to go petition Redmond for a fix, in the meantime they told me to fall back to Vulkan. Same thing did not happen on my Linux partition with the same game.
 
The Noise said:
Literally one day after I argue with @Creative Username in this thread about Windows being more stable than Linux and then I see this:
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Only a decade ago this kind of shit would be unthinkable in a stable Windows update and it seems like it's just becoming the norm now. I hate Indians.
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hahahahaha
do you hate being proven wrong with impeccable comedic timing? consider the following:
  • linux mint
  • kubuntu
  • xubuntu
you too could be laughing at proprietarycels every other week. burn an iso to a usb today!
Akerman said:
Same thing did not happen on my Linux partition with the same game.
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i'm perfectly willing to admit that free software isn't perfect, but when you're competing against the quality and impeccable support *snicker* of modern proprietary software, it's almost completely impossible to lose
 
Akerman said:
Meanwhile Sebastian Keller is in there telling people that they can manually create .desktop launchers with WM_Classes for every application. :story:
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To be fair just about everything will have a .desktop launcher by now. You'd have to be using a very weird setup to need to custom-make more than one or two .desktops.
 
Susanna said:
To be fair just about everything will have a .desktop launcher by now. You'd have to be using a very weird setup to need to custom-make more than one or two .desktops.
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It's not necessarily that they don't have .desktop files, it's because the WM_Class is either unset or incorrect. It happens to the vast majority of WINE applications and a number of Xwayland apps:
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WINE is trying to set an icon, but can't due to the lack of the protocol which does not happen on compositors that have them. The only solution for GNOME is to find the WM_Class for each one manually which is obnoxious and to edit each .desktop file with the correct entry name. If you run a lot of apps that this affects it can be extremely tedious. And the dev don't even want to add it as a fallback because of what appears to mostly be obnoxious software philosophy bullshit. Worth noting that earlier versions of gnome-shell used to create a fallback app that was using the X11 window icon of the first window the app had created, but that was removed before 46: gnome-shell!3056 (merged).
 
The Noise said:
Literally one day after I argue with @Creative Username in this thread about Windows being more stable than Linux and then I see this:
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Only a decade ago this kind of shit would be unthinkable in a stable Windows update and it seems like it's just becoming the norm now. I hate Indians.
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There will be no consequences for Jeets shitting up Windows because, as you say, it's viewed as a computing staple that works and is by default superior to anything else. Why try harder when there is no pushback to your monopoly and even frustrated users will continue cheering you on as you fuck them? See also: Google, Valve, any social media company that's now an irreplacable cog of a normalfag's life, etc.
 
GNU Abyss said:
There will be no consequences for Jeets shitting up Windows because, as you say, it's viewed as a computing staple that works and is by default superior to anything else. Why try harder when there is no pushback to your monopoly and even frustrated users will continue cheering you on as you fuck them? See also: Google, Valve, any social media company that's now an irreplacable cog of a normalfag's life, etc.
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Most people will just switch to iPads and tablets, possibly Chromebooks
 
Creative Username said:
hahahahaha
do you hate being proven wrong with impeccable comedic timing? consider the following:
  • linux mint
  • kubuntu
  • xubuntu
you too could be laughing at proprietarycels every other week. burn an iso to a usb today!
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I have had a terrible experience with Linux every time I have tried it but I can't even begin to explain how little I want to deal with Windows 11. I don't want a "full AI" PC. I don't want forced Microsoft integration.

I'm getting a new SSD soon and I'll probably just throw Mint on that, dual boot it with Windows 10 on another SSD, and then slowly phase out the latter.

Betonhaus said:
Most people will just switch to iPads and tablets, possibly Chromebooks
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When my laptop is inevitably out of support I'm thinking of just opting for a refurbished macbook. Yeah yeah walled garden but the battery life is good, it's based on Unix, and it's not fucking Windows 11.
 
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