The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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Binary-Tyrant said:
If I install Xlibre right now on my main laptop that runs Debian Testing + Cinnamon, what do I gain? Refresh rate features and HDR if I buy a new monitor, I guess...?
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babaisyou said:
HDR isn't supported on XLibre, would recommend holding off until the next release of XLibre anyway as that will fix a regression they made that caused pretty huge memory leaks.
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My main desktop was still on xorg/i3 and it was crashing a few times a week. I thought it was all the image generation I was experimenting with using ComfyUI, but then the display just froze one day right after a reboot. Wasn't sure if it was the kernel, hardware or AMD drivers, but I already had one box on xlibre and it's been stable forever. So I decided to put my main workstation on it using the Gentoo overlay. I've been using it for days, running tons of stuff on it overnight using ComfyUI and no freezes, lockups for crashes.

xorg is just horribly unmaintained shit at this point, and they reverted a lot of fixes the xlibre guy put in due to political bullshit. xlibre has fixed a lot of my refresh rate issues, freezing issues and other crap on multiple machines and seems to work fine with the amdgpu drives.

For my media center, I still use Wayland/KDE because I do want HDR support for movies. mpv with the gpu-next/vulkan support for HDR requires Wayland, but that's its only meaningful purpose. If mpv ever gets full HDR playback support with xlibre, I'll scrap Wayland from everything forever.
 
Madison Grant said:
But will Wayland autism snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?
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Generally most users get recommended Linux Mint for their first distro and it's X11
babaisyou said:
HDR isn't supported on XLibre, would recommend holding off until the next release of XLibre anyway as that will fix a regression they made that caused pretty huge memory leaks.
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Xlibre is at the point of testing HDR support, and they are dealing with the hurdle that Waylands HDR support is pretty hacky and basically a scam. On the Steam Deck HDR is Piper's through X11 in a hacky way, and there is no HDR specification so literally zero Linux apps support HDR, unless you're streaming from Netflix or something in which case the video mostly bypasses everything anyways.
 
Gabe only owns Valve, no need to thank him for that. Not like it's going to rapidly go to shit when he's no longer owner, but hey he doesn't code or anything!
 
Dirty Harry said:
If Windows came out tomorrow with something like Windows 7 and the features it had back in 2010, the autism types would still be crying MS is evil and linux is the savior of the world.

It's almost becoming a mental illness with all the linux spammers now. It's a fine system for the right people but it's gotten to a whole new level of autism lately. Then of course, all the linux vs linux infighting like Ubuntu is evil and Arch is the savior of the world... You get the pattern.
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"Hey guys, the restaurant of that serves shit on a plate for the past decade and a half finally made a proper hamburger! We should totally eat there! They've changed!"

Maybe if Microsoft went under and as a final gasp they released the source code for Windows 7 I would be somewhat interested.
Dante Alighieri said:
Gabe only owns Valve, no need to thank him for that. Not like it's going to rapidly go to shit when he's no longer owner, but hey he doesn't code or anything!
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Valve is already turning to shit, and Gabe uses 10% of the power over the company you think he uses. I seriously don't get how people believe Gabe actually contributes to Steam in any way, shape, or form anymore. Elon wishes retards would believe he runs his company the same as people think Gabe does.

Every game is terribly managed due to the people leading the project being the same people making it, leading to issues the issues of "Look at how le hecking Dota/Deadlock team treat their player vs CS2! Valve only cares about insert game here" Reddit post every other month. Steam itself only get like 2 meaningful updates a year. Every Linux product Valve has "produced" has been well into being developed and only then they got money from being contracted by Valve, with the only exception being fex, but even then that was because they caught it early on.
 
Betonhaus said:
Xlibre is at the point of testing HDR support, and they are dealing with the hurdle that Waylands HDR support is pretty hacky and basically a scam
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At the point of testing? I haven't seen any progress outside of incomplete implementations, could you link to said testing?
 
Are there any music players that will allow playback through a specified device without having to change system wide default everytime? preferably something with a good GUI like musicbee without having to run that through wine.

(Yes I googled it but i just keep getting recommended MPV or a hideous MPV frontend, I'm far too lazy and retarded to turn it into something functional and pretty.)
 
User names must be unique said:
Are there any music players that will allow playback through a specified device without having to change system wide default everytime? preferably something with a good GUI like musicbee without having to run that through wine.

(Yes I googled it but i just keep getting recommended MPV or a hideous MPV frontend, I'm far too lazy and retarded to turn it into something functional and pretty.)
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I don't remember if Deadbeef supported selecting the output device. But I consider Deadbeef the most advanced GUI player for linux, inspired by foobar2k.
 
User names must be unique said:
Are there any music players that will allow playback through a specified device without having to change system wide default everytime?
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I do not know of any that lack this feature, frankly. It's one of the most basic-bitch features. And I say this as a developer of one. If you want to pick a player that has a Gentoo build, I'll help track down the output selection for you. No results for "musicbee" in the emerge search I just did.

i440BX said:
I consider Deadbeef the most advanced GUI player for linux, inspired by foobar2k.
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Deadbeef thinks like a Windows application which has huge drawbacks, like aping a "plugin" system. This is completely irrelevant for Linux because everyone doing packaging builds from source anyhow. It's rich in terms of features, sure, but it's also fugly and the devs are nowhere near as competent as Peter Pawlowski, the foobar dev.
 
analrapist said:
I do not know of any that lack this feature, frankly. It's one of the most basic-bitch features. And I say this as a developer of one. If you want to pick a player that has a Gentoo build, I'll help track down the output selection for you. No results for "musicbee" in the emerge search I just did.


Deadbeef thinks like a Windows application which has huge drawbacks, like aping a "plugin" system. This is completely irrelevant for Linux because everyone doing packaging builds from source anyhow. It's rich in terms of features, sure, but it's also fugly and the devs are nowhere near as competent as Peter Pawlowski, the foobar dev.
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I agree that the plugin system isn't reliable compared to foobar2k but I don't know any advanced GUI player for Linux matching Deadbeef in features.
 
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analrapist said:
I do not know of any that lack this feature,
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the pre-installed Elsa didn't, nor did clementine a recommended linux replacement for Musicbee. SMPplayer did but didn't want to add my entire library. Deadbeef is fine for me but if you have another recommendation I'll check them out later.
 
User names must be unique said:
the pre-installed Elsa didn't,
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ROFL OMG you're not kidding. Good example of KDE being trash, I guess. Clementine doesn't even have a Gentoo build, and the master branch on github requires QT5 which Gentoo no longer offers. Maybe there's a QT6 build in alpha somewhere. "HOORAY KDE"

i440BX said:
I agree that the plugin system isn't reliable compared to foobar2k but I don't know any advanced GUI player for Linux matching Deadbeef in features.
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"Reliable" isn't the issue. The issue is the design. "matching Deadbeef in features" misses my point. A lot of foobar2000's features derive from the reality that there's no better way to do things on Windows/Mac OS/etc. On Linux, converting media files is as easy as running ffmpeg. There are countless metadata editors that are specialized for that role, et cetera. Deadbeef is about replicating features that don't need to be there.

Another feature that doesn't need to be there is the entire DSP chain. In Linux, if you're on Pipewire, you can load EasyEffects and handle your DSP there; if you wanna get really insane, you can install Carla and route your system audio through wine-bridged Windows VSTs.

Further, "plugins" means that you expect to be distributing binary builds of your integrations instead of just building everything once. Once again, it's degenerate proprietary coding practice that is completely obsoleted by superior, source-first distribution approaches.

By all means, use what works for you and you enjoy. But Deadbeef in particular is quite poorly adapted to the Linux ecosystem. Windows users are used to "use one tool for all jobs" whereas the deeper into Linux you get, the more you're decomposing tasks into apps specialized for the use case.
 
ProudSkibidiTolietAryan said:
But im not giving up or have gone LAZY. part of it is just because I wanted to return with something cool for you guys since you deserve it for being so awesome.
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