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In KDE you just select the volume tray icon and click the applications tab and select output device. Pavucontrol as well. That's how I've ever done it didn't even know music apps have settings to select output device.
yeah but I wanted to play music through a speaker while having something else play through my headphones for reasons too convoluted and dumb to go into but I promise it makes sense.

I see what you mean now, it's not a joke when I say I'm retarded.
 
In KDE you just select the volume tray icon and click the applications tab and select output device. Pavucontrol as well. That's how I've ever done it didn't even know music apps have settings to select output device.
I wondered. Thanks for the info. Centralized per-app config, hey?

In MPV and VLC, you can always set the device. Those are what I use when I want a UI. Audacity, same deal.

I see what you mean now, it's not a joke when I say I'm retarded.
You have a valid point though. The KDE UI that controls all of this isn't available on all systems, like mine. This app is broken in the context of my PC because I lack this UI component in my DWM setup. So this app is valid exclusively in a context with separate per-app device control.
 
I kinda enjoyed the manual install process for Arch. So far, no problems, but I know Arch is infamous for breaking.
 
Are there any music players that will allow playback through a specified device without having to change system wide default everytime? preferably something with a good GUI like musicbee without having to run that through wine.

(Yes I googled it but i just keep getting recommended MPV or a hideous MPV frontend, I'm far too lazy and retarded to turn it into something functional and pretty.)
https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry

I use this.
 
I kinda enjoyed the manual install process for Arch. So far, no problems, but I know Arch is infamous for breaking.
Its not as bad as it's made out to be. The "breakages", almost always are pretty minor, and if they happen to you at all its something like once a year.

And usually the fix is simple. Like the nvidia driver thing recently. For people with 10 series cards. They had to move over to the nvidia-58xxx package in the aur. Not really anything hard. And for any really big thing like that they will have something on the arch site explaining what you need to do. Or you can enable the news option in paru, I can't remember if pacman itself will handle news or only the helpers.
 
Are there any music players that will allow playback through a specified device without having to change system wide default everytime? preferably something with a good GUI like musicbee without having to run that through wine.

(Yes I googled it but i just keep getting recommended MPV or a hideous MPV frontend, I'm far too lazy and retarded to turn it into something functional and pretty.)
I use Clementine, don't know if it has something you need tho.
 
The KDE UI that controls all of this isn't available on all systems, like mine.
pavucontrol (pactl if you want a cli program) will offer what you need if you don't have KDE. Its pretty powerful, you can reroute audio from various inputs to various outputs real or virtual. Ends up being a great thing to have if you do a lot of amateur radio. Some other poster here did a great post on the history of the Linux audio systems, but simply (and probably not entirely correct) PulseAudio wraps up all the audio on a modern linux system and you use that as the interface to route the audio around.

Its not without its warts but its an audio system that lets me have a digital radio experiment running (both RX and TX), OBS streaming a WS4000 simulator with period accurate music, while also streaming a video game to another screen across the house and none of the audio crosses streams (e.g. I'm not transmitting video game music on my hf radio). All of this is orchestrated via pulseaudio. I had to install a bunch of different programs (some paid) on MacOS or Windows to do similar. I'm also sure my use cases are rare.
 
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turns out some chad made a lutris script for musicbee so retards like me can run it easily, should have googled harder, probably just nostalgia/familiarity but it's still my fave I did try all recommendations though ty guys.
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Tbh, I’ve been using Linux for almost a decade and every music app I’ve ever tried has kinda sucked. The basic players like MPV or VLC have been good, great even, but the more full-fledged iTunes-like players have never been very good.
The funny thing is that most of the players mentioned in the last 20 posts are just forks of Amarok 1.4, which back when I was using a music player in the KDE 3 days was absolutely the tits.

Then that got completely ruined by a retarded rewrite from scratch for Amarok 2 because KDE 4 destroyed 80% of the good things about KDE, so the original Amarok got forked to Clementine, then that got forked to Strawberry...

And even the modern, neutered Amarok wasn't retarded enough for the KDE clowns so someone came up with Elisa as an even worse music player than Amarok 2/3.
pavucontrol (pactl if you want a cli program) will offer what you need if you don't have KDE.
I must admit, my attitude to documentation probably isn't much better than Mr. Poettring's.
By all means, use what works for you and you enjoy. But Deadbeef in particular is quite poorly adapted to the Linux ecosystem. Windows users are used to "use one tool for all jobs" whereas the deeper into Linux you get, the more you're decomposing tasks into apps specialized for the use case.
Eh, if you've got a shitload of music it makes sense for it to be handled in a classic interface like MusicMatch Jukebox or iTunes does. In which case there will be a database backend, in which case if you've just downloaded some random crap off SoulSeek with poorly defined ID3 tags it makes sense for you to be able to immediately quickly rename it within the interface and have that immediately reflected without fucking around. Amarok before it was ruined with 2.x was a 2.5 mb download, not some goddawful bloated Electron app.
 
Eh, if you've got a shitload of music it makes sense for it to be handled in a classic interface like MusicMatch Jukebox or iTunes does. In which case there will be a database backend, in which case if you've just downloaded some random crap off SoulSeek with poorly defined ID3 tags it makes sense for you to be able to immediately quickly rename it within the interface and have that immediately reflected without fucking around. Amarok before it was ruined with 2.x was a 2.5 mb download, not some goddawful bloated Electron app.
I was a foobar2000 user for my first 2.5TB. I'm at 6 or 7TB now and just use my filesystem. FLAC, all from private torrent sites. foobar2000 was the last Windows program keeping me on the platform. Now I just organize everything using folders. I spend less time and effort. If I really want to do a full search, I've got a text file with all the metadata, one line per file, from all my files. grep makes short work of it. Redacted/Orpheus tags aren't always perfect, but they're generally decent. I don't even see them any more.
 
foobar2000 was the last Windows program keeping me on the platform.
I am still using foobar2000 on Linux, it works mostly fine under Wine with the WASAPIC output. I mainly use it to handle odd gamerip formats like gameboy (yes, I like chiptunes) and PS2 for infinite loops. The best part is simply handling zip/rar transparently since I can't be bothered to extract TBs of FLAC/AAC from them especially when I can play them perfectly fine.
 
There's also EasyEffects, which does the same thing while also letting you set up effects.
I use EasyEffects and I've never noticed the capacity to route specific apps to specific devices. Where do you find that functionality?

handling zip/rar transparently since I can't be bothered to extract TBs of FLAC/AAC
You understand that you're not saving any space (a percent or two tops) by having FLAC or AAC in ZIP or RAR, right? Both FLAC and AAC are already fully compressed. You're just making things load slower and use more CPU. I reckon if you're trying to keep the CRC of an archive the same or something to share, that's a solid rationale, but I find this approach a little hard to swallow given how few the upsides are.
 
You understand that you're not saving any space (a percent or two tops) by having FLAC or AAC in ZIP or RAR, right? Both FLAC and AAC are already fully compressed. You're just making things load slower and use more CPU. I reckon if you're trying to keep the CRC of an archive the same or something to share, that's a solid rationale, but I find this approach a little hard to swallow given how few the upsides are.
I downloaded them over the years long ago in that form, now there's a huge list of them and I can't be bothered to extract and fix up all my playlists. I never went out of my way to compress any of my music. When I moved to Linux, I just kept using foobar2000 with the exact same playlist by fixing up drive letters in Wine, everything just worked for years*.

*Except that time Wine added partial support for vccorlib140, throwing an exception foobar2000 can't handle.
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So Zorin was another bust for me on the scaling front, which was surprising since it uses Wayland. I guess I'll reinstall Kubuntu when they release the next LTS build

It's also the good old GNOME stink, Zorin can't fork enough of that shit to fix the otherworldly inconsistent font scaling there, even if they did fork anything of the project.
 
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