The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[FailurePersonifiedV2]

I found a t580 LibreBooted ended up ordering that. I know it's a /g/ meme but they cost literally a quarter of a boutique laptop

Despite using artix on my desktop it's been really hit or miss with laptops for me. My laptops aren't super crazy I have one Linux first laptop and one dell rugged book which should work but the radeon card in it glitched out hard
And I've recommended it to people only for them to run into major issues

What kind of issues were they running into? As for something like an Intel/AMD system like the rugged it kind of makes sense that it would give you grief. This might be more of a reflection of Arch as a whole as with Arch, Intel only seems to work great for laptops (iGPU), AMD w/ iGPU is the same story; Intel with NVIDIA works ok in my experience if you are using DKMS for the GPU, and I haven't tested with AMD cards in a long time since I usually end up getting cheap new-stock Nvidia from family.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

If you haven't already seen/heard of this Arch distro, it is probably the best out of box experience for any Linux-based Distro I've used on a laptop. (Thinkpad T470s)

https://artixlinux.org/

The problem with non-systemd distros is there is too much stuff I use at work / home that needs systemd or expects systemd. I was running Devuan until yesterday and just said fuck it and installed Arch (I would rather use Debian but there is a load of AI stuff I want to much around with and everything assumes Arch or Ubuntu).

There were problems with it when I tried running in a VM on Linux.

 

[Ferryman]

So my laptop has a Radeon nonfeee GPU in it so its telling me that in Guix
I have a wifi adapter for WiFi but I still need a computer if I don't wanna run nonguix

Really? Is it super new? My RX5700T ran just fine with the Libre kernel. Can't really vouch for AMD laptops or newer stuff, but it should work full OOTB on the T580 you mentioned (unless it has an nvidia GPU). Memeniggers aside, the *80 machines are great, just make sure to check if your Thunderbolt / fast charging is working since there's a known issue with it having fucky firmware on this gen of machines. Flashing it is really easy even if it is, takes like 15 minutes and 10$ worth of hardware.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

The problem with non-systemd distros is there is too much stuff I use at work / home that needs systemd or expects systemd. I was running Devuan until yesterday and just said fuck it and installed Arch (I would rather use Debian but there is a load of AI stuff I want to much around with and everything assumes Arch or Ubuntu).

There were problems with it when I tried running in a VM on Linux.

The anti-systemd stuff is just turboautism. Like I get it, I do, but it's making your computer-use harder as a lone protest that nobody but other turboautists give a shit about. Daily-driving Linux is autistic enough.

 

[acid_ra1n]

Really? Is it super new? My RX5700T ran just fine with the Libre kernel. Can't really vouch for AMD laptops or newer stuff, but it should work full OOTB on the T580 you mentioned (unless it has an nvidia GPU). Memeniggers aside, the *80 machines are great, just make sure to check if your Thunderbolt / fast charging is working since there's a known issue with it having fucky firmware on this gen of machines. Flashing it is really easy even if it is, takes like 15 minutes and 10$ worth of hardware.

It has a rx5xx GPU 8th gen Intel. I could maybe get it going but I don't really want AMD's nightmare laptop gpus to be a source of debugging for me right out of the gate, as it causes issues on other distros.
This one said the firmware was updated before librebooting so it should be good

 

[acid_ra1n]

What kind of issues were they running into? As for something like an Intel/AMD system like the rugged it kind of makes sense that it would give you grief. This might be more of a reflection of Arch as a whole as with Arch, Intel only seems to work great for laptops (iGPU), AMD w/ iGPU is the same story; Intel with NVIDIA works ok in my experience if you are using DKMS for the GPU, and I haven't tested with AMD cards in a long time since I usually end up getting cheap new-stock Nvidia from family.

Yeah that was pretty much it was amd card had bad display on Wayland kde but it works fine on fedora kde

 

[Aljam]

I recently installed NixOS. I'm surprised how easy it is to manage all my packages and etc configs in a single file. I've been warned that the side effects of using this distro is I'll start to have to take estrogen and wear thigh highs. Hopefully I don't troon out.

 

[acid_ra1n]

I recently installed NixOS. I'm surprised how easy it is to manage all my packages and etc configs in a single file. I've been warned that the side effects of using this distro is I'll start to have to take estrogen and wear thigh highs. Hopefully I don't troon out.

Ironically one of the most edgy poltards I know Is a nixos diehard
That being said yeah the configuration.nix is easy to figure out it's just when you start going off the beaten path that you spend hours reading through github comment sections trying to figure out how to declaratively wipe your ass correctly

 

[SchizoDaemon]

The anti-systemd stuff is just turboautism. Like I get it, I do, but it's making your computer-use harder as a lone protest that nobody but other turboautists give a shit about. Daily-driving Linux is autistic enough.

A lot of the problems that were wasting a lot of time e.g. I installed a .deb and the post-install script failed because I am using sysv.

 

[Pluciferous]

Ironically one of the most edgy poltards I know Is a nixos diehard

I’m based as fuck, I hate trannies, and I must admit that NixOS is clearly how an operating system was meant to work.

The NixOS tranny phenomenon is very recent. NixOS was invented 20 or so years ago by a bald straight white dude. Trannies didn’t take it over until about 5 years ago.

 

[jeff7989]

I’m based as fuck, I hate trannies, and I must admit that NixOS is clearly how an operating system was meant to work.

The NixOS tranny phenomenon is very recent. NixOS was invented 20 or so years ago by a bald straight white dude. Trannies didn’t take it over until about 5 years ago.

You are not based, you are cringe. Based is not something you can call yourself, That's a title only others can use to describe you.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Ironically one of the most edgy poltards I know Is a nixos diehard
That being said yeah the configuration.nix is easy to figure out it's just when you start going off the beaten path that you spend hours reading through github comment sections trying to figure out how to declaratively wipe your ass correctly

Honestly I just let Claude vibe code my configuration and it worked exceptionally well.

I always end up going going back to Fedora because at the end of the day I’m a normie that just wants my shit to work.

 

[Nickel Silver]

You are not based, you are cringe. Based is not something you can call yourself, That's a title only others can use to describe you.

Bragging about being based is like bragging about being humble.

 

[Dread First]

You are not based, you are cringe. Based is not something you can call yourself, That's a title only others can use to describe you.

His hair, WACK. His gear, WACK. His jewelry, WACK. His footstance, WACK. The way he talks, WACK. The way he doesn't even like to smile, WACK. ME? I'M TIGHT AS FUCK!!

 

[GNU Abyss]

The anti-systemd stuff is just turboautism. Like I get it, I do, but it's making your computer-use harder as a lone protest that nobody but other turboautists give a shit about. Daily-driving Linux is autistic enough.

Considering the amount of people using alternatives, it's certainly not lone. You're also overestimating the difficulty of Linux. Turboautism is writing kernel patches and drivers. Putting together packages that other people have built for you, using guides and instructions, into a working system is not even what I would call autism. Are knitters autists as well? They remember lots of patterns and can knit things according to a diagram.

I do have some good news, however. Say hello to the next best thing: systemd-sysinstall, now available in 261-rc1. Flatpak is getting a hard dependency on systemd in the not so distant future as well. Blessed be the Poettering.

 

[jray4559]

Considering the amount of people using alternatives, it's certainly not lone. You're also overestimating the difficulty of Linux. Turboautism is writing kernel patches and drivers. Putting together packages that other people have built for you, using guides and instructions, into a working system is not even what I would call autism. Are knitters autists as well? They remember lots of patterns and can knit things according to a diagram.

I do have some good news, however. Say hello to the next best thing: systemd-sysinstall, now available in 261-rc1. Flatpak is getting a hard dependency on systemd in the not so distant future as well. Blessed be the Poettering.

at this point there might as well be a systemd-kernel

It's ridiculous how many different things systemd is getting its claws into, and I'm surprised 99% of Linux people don't care and are just letting it happen. Init system, bootloaders, now this, I thought Linux was all about not being locked to one thing as much as possible. I wish I could just say 'corpos are doing it' but honestly it feels deeper than that.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm still waiting on the systemd Wayland compositor

It might actually be able to make Wayland not shitty because it can ignore or fix the specification as needed

 

[Ferryman]

It's ridiculous how many different things systemd is getting its claws into, and I'm surprised 99% of Linux people don't care and are just letting it happen. Init system, bootloaders, now this, I thought Linux was all about not being locked to one thing as much as possible. I wish I could just say 'corpos are doing it' but honestly it feels deeper than that.

Its the grimstone effect of huffing too much accessibility smoke. Systemd is convenient for new or low-customization users because it ships with most distros and "just works", its good for higher level people because it gives you a centralized solution to everything since it has spawled to everything, and its good for corporate Linux users because all corpo distros a la RHEL, Ubuntu, NixOS etc. use it. But look inside and you'll see the mark of the yeast infection that is Lennart Poettering in how dogshit and unstable it (especially its networking stack) is, though most people either ignore it or cope it away becasue of, you guessed it: convenience, the modern man's opium.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

What is thee best version of Linux to use with a Ryzen 5 RTX4060 machine that is mainly used for video editing and playing games from 5 years ago?
Microslop "Upgrade" me to windows 11 while I wasn't looking and I have never had a system crash this much, ever.

Thanks.

 

[seri0us]

What is thee best version of Linux to use with a Ryzen 5 RTX4060 machine that is mainly used for video editing and playing games from 5 years ago?
Microslop "Upgrade" me to windows 11 while I wasn't looking and I have never had a system crash this much, ever.

Thanks.

Linux Mint