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I forgot Cloud Atlas exists. I guess it never stuck around as the tranny movie because people got mad for casting white people as black despite the whole point being a cycle of reincarnation.
The Matrix Resurrections Thread - Woah
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Saw it last night with some coworkers and every single one of us thought it was mediocre at best. Since we can't talk about it at lunch because we're being considerate for the other guys that want to see it, I'll sperg my gripes here.
- Keanu clearly did this for the paycheck. I know he gets a rap for his dull acting, but his performance didn't feel like he's 20 years older. It felt like he didn'twant to be there
- Niobi's attitude is all over the place. One minute she's scolding Bugs for retrieving Neo from the Matrix, then she's glad Bugs frees Neo to go after Trinity, only to go back to scolding. Also, how old is this bitch and how is she not dead? 60 years into the future is a long ass time skip, and something tells me that despite all the advanced tech in the setting, there's enough technological regression too that wouldn't warrant her to push 100.
- How does Not Morpheus' real world construct work away from the ship. I know they make some technobabble about it being electromagnetism when he forms on the Not Nebechanezzer, but it doesn't make sense when he is away from it. Like does it have an indefinite range? Are the balls all mini machines working together with an AI attached to it?
Why in the ever loving fuck would the machines bring back Agent Smith? The whole crux of Neo's sacrifice that led to peace between the machines & humans was to get rid of Smith, who pretty much became a virus that the machine could no longer control. If they wanted to use him as an unwilling guard to help prevent Neo from leaving the Matrix again, why not throw in a line about him being a reworked copy of Smith that the machines could control? Instead, we got some bullshit line about how he balances out Neo because the conflict doesn't make Neo try to escape the Matrix. Well it sure is a good idea to bring back the program that was enough of a threat to the machines that they gave up their eternal war just to stop it. I don't see that having long standing consequences.
The purge program does not seem beneficial compared to the agents. Sure, they can use trapped humans en masse to attack the freed humans, but the agents came off as far more effective given how powerful they were. The purge comes off as an inconvenience as you can kill the hosts by regular means. With agents, you had to get the drop on them or go full fucking dakka just to kill the host, and even then, the agent would get move to another body and restart the chase.
Doesn't make sense for Trinity to get powers in the Matrix like Neo. Whole goddamn point of Neo was that he was an unintentional messiah with powers he didn't know he had or why he had them. That and, you know, him being THE ONE. Not one whole unit, or Ying & Yang bullshit. He was The One. Trinity was a badass with a nice ass that would eventually fall for The One, but that was it. You don't think the Oracle would've mentioned something about her having a bigger involvement than she already had, especially before the whole purge of old programs?
What happened to Zion? Niobi gives some lines about how they didn't trust the machines and may have attacked them, but since it isn't elaborated further, we are honestly left in the dark about it. If they said something like them moving from Zion as a precautionary measure in case the machines attacked again, then it would make absolute sense. But instead we get what boils down to "yeah we left for reasons" remark
Whoever did the hair styles for the characters within the Matrix deserves to be shot. Bugs's blue hair, the chick with the glued of curls, the dude with the weird markings in his hair. Its jarring and feels like they did it because of Cyberpunk. The Matrix isn't cyberpunk in style. It's more cybergoth, but with practical styling. I know this is a weird point, but for some reason it irritated me.
Thought it was great to see the Merovigion again as an exiled program, but it honestly doesn't make sense why he would have been targeted by the machines' program purge. His whole thing outside of data/program storage was that he would only work with the humans if it benefited him.
I know wired phones are going by the wayside, but how do mirrors get them out of the Matrix? Why not have them go through a TV screen or something tied to an internet connection?
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Its almost like the Wachowskis haven't made a good movie since the Clinton administration, and were forced to make another movie because they haven't made a profitable movie since the Matrix sequels.
Seriously, between Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending flopping the way they did, I think the Wachowskis have lost Warner Brothers damn near a billion dollars.
Seriously, between Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending flopping the way they did, I think the Wachowskis have lost Warner Brothers damn near a billion dollars.
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I think when the sex change happened they had their brains removed also - or maybe the hormone treatments just fucked their brains up anyways. They utterly suck at making films and should be branded poison.
Perhaps they think that if the can put on a fancy dress that makes them women, and think that putting on fancy CGI makes a film too.
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The fighting choreography was awful.
The Chad dude as Trinity’s hubsand was better.
But most of the punches don’t seem to land. Seriously WTF. OG Matrix still holds up watched today my jihadies!
The Chad dude as Trinity’s hubsand was better.
But most of the punches don’t seem to land. Seriously WTF. OG Matrix still holds up watched today my jihadies!
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Just watched this with one of my friends since childhood.
The first act with Neo creating a video game based on the matrix trilogy with agent Smith being his boss was ok.
The film tries to be very meta with these scenes with mix results. The film feels like an author who is out of ideas and think writing a story about creating a story is a story in of it's self.
I did not care for the new "Morpheus" and "Agent Smith".
The movie had some internet vocab dropped in like "Chad", "swatting", and "triggered".
I thought the idea of friendly machines was pretty cool.
Neil Patrick Harris's character was easily the best part of the movie.
Niobi was the worst part of the movie.
The last act where Neo can't fly seems to be more of an excuse to have a mediocre action scene. Neo ends up being able to fly again at the literal last second of the film.
The action scenes were over all meh.
The movie doesn't "reclaim the redpill" and Tim Pool is more or less right in that the film is about "Men and women needs each other".
My friend thought the film was good and I thought it was at least better than the second Matrix film.
The first act with Neo creating a video game based on the matrix trilogy with agent Smith being his boss was ok.
The film tries to be very meta with these scenes with mix results. The film feels like an author who is out of ideas and think writing a story about creating a story is a story in of it's self.
I did not care for the new "Morpheus" and "Agent Smith".
The movie had some internet vocab dropped in like "Chad", "swatting", and "triggered".
I thought the idea of friendly machines was pretty cool.
Neil Patrick Harris's character was easily the best part of the movie.
Niobi was the worst part of the movie.
The last act where Neo can't fly seems to be more of an excuse to have a mediocre action scene. Neo ends up being able to fly again at the literal last second of the film.
The action scenes were over all meh.
The movie doesn't "reclaim the redpill" and Tim Pool is more or less right in that the film is about "Men and women needs each other".
My friend thought the film was good and I thought it was at least better than the second Matrix film.
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Imagine putting David Lynch up against the troon and the goon.
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If anyone wants a step-by-step breakdown of the plot, full spoilers.
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my thoughts, having finished watching it about fifteen minutes ago
Nothing happens in this movie. You could run a loop of Carl saying "It don't matter. None a this matters" for 2 and a half hours and it would be the same thing. I kept waiting for this movie to start and it did not start until like an hour and forty five minutes in. Neo as a game designer blah blah blah that shit was HORRIBLE and BORING. The new human city Io that shit was BORING and pointless except to introduce characters that could have been introduced another better way
None of the conflicts are resolved, none of the bad guys are defeated, can you make it any more obvious that there are going to be MOAR SEQUELS in the dumbest way. The Matrix ended with excitement, Neo has his powers, the Agents are defeated, a new day is dawning. No one gets defeated in this movie, you never feel there are any stakes, incredibly boring for long stretches. There is no excitement at the end
It isn't a soft reboot, it's a literal remake of The Matrix with extra and longer steps and worse action
We don't get any meaningful exposition until like almost two hours in when Neil Patrick Harris does his moustache twirling villain speech
There is no reason for Smith to be in this movie except SMITH IS BACK HIM AN NEO ARE GONNA FITE MORE IN MATRIX 5 AND 6
Whoever the actor is that plays Smith looks like a young, not manlet Tom Cruise on roids. Not saying it's bad it just struck me
The action in this movie SUCKS. The character shields are set to overload. Bad guys with automatic rifles unload from a range of 30-50 feet on the good guys multiple times and even when Neo isn't stopping the bullets midair, none of them come even close to being hit. When thousands of zombies I mean Purgers I mean bots are swarming the good guys... none of them die. NOT ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS DIES IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE. The kung fu stuff suffers from weird, bad camera angles and distances, just bad cinematography in general for the action scenes
There are multiple little details that make no sense like one of the reasons the bots are allegedly superior to Agents because their appearance doesn't change when they take over people's avatars in the Matrix. Ummm so what? Agents take over an avatar and minmax all stats in like 1 second. You could kill them but it was super-difficult and they'd take over another avatar close by and be on your ass again in like 10 seconds. All these bots are is cannon fodder for the heroes
Neo's apartment from The Matrix was apparently a loft? No I remember it was in some concrete basement that looked like something you'd see underneath an industrial wasteland or something. It wasn't airy and light wtf
Oooh, the Suits. The robots who run the Machine Empire! Who gives a fuck? ANOTHER group of bad guys? We got the Merovingian's hobo programs, we got Neil Patrick Harris as the front man for the Machines, but his robot bosses aren't happy with him, we got Smith... that's three definite and four potential bad guy forces. That's about two too many
The red pill is exactly the same, there is no philosophy expounded here that rejects "the red pill" as the avenue to truth, to choice, to freedom. The Indian girl from reloaded and revolutions all grown up says it isn't necessary to use the red pill to free a character at the end, but that's because she says she can achieve the same results using a different method because she's a super cool program
Now there are some very nice looking shots in the big chase scene at the end but overall the movie is just visually uninteresting. and most of those good looking shots aren't action shots
This chase scene that is the climax of the movie is so far inferior to the freeway chase in Reloaded that it's sad
There are too many characters
The pacing is bad
The music is meh
The action is bad except for one fight scene and that fight scene is not some amazing blow you away thing. it's good but that's it. Look all these old people can't move like they could 20, 22 years ago. Stop making these movies where they have to do all this action. Neo has his powers back for like half the movie, CGI that shit up with him throwing people around, collapsing walls on them, whatever, with his matrix powers. we do not need every damn fight in this movie to involve kung fu at some point
The merovingian has some super based madlad things to say
Overall I give it a 5/10 and about 4 of that is the merovingian making me laugh and 1 is nostalgia
I will not comment on the very big amazing wonderful thing that happens in this movie
I had lost the capacity to feel anything by then
None of the conflicts are resolved, none of the bad guys are defeated, can you make it any more obvious that there are going to be MOAR SEQUELS in the dumbest way. The Matrix ended with excitement, Neo has his powers, the Agents are defeated, a new day is dawning. No one gets defeated in this movie, you never feel there are any stakes, incredibly boring for long stretches. There is no excitement at the end
It isn't a soft reboot, it's a literal remake of The Matrix with extra and longer steps and worse action
We don't get any meaningful exposition until like almost two hours in when Neil Patrick Harris does his moustache twirling villain speech
There is no reason for Smith to be in this movie except SMITH IS BACK HIM AN NEO ARE GONNA FITE MORE IN MATRIX 5 AND 6
Whoever the actor is that plays Smith looks like a young, not manlet Tom Cruise on roids. Not saying it's bad it just struck me
The action in this movie SUCKS. The character shields are set to overload. Bad guys with automatic rifles unload from a range of 30-50 feet on the good guys multiple times and even when Neo isn't stopping the bullets midair, none of them come even close to being hit. When thousands of zombies I mean Purgers I mean bots are swarming the good guys... none of them die. NOT ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS DIES IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE. The kung fu stuff suffers from weird, bad camera angles and distances, just bad cinematography in general for the action scenes
There are multiple little details that make no sense like one of the reasons the bots are allegedly superior to Agents because their appearance doesn't change when they take over people's avatars in the Matrix. Ummm so what? Agents take over an avatar and minmax all stats in like 1 second. You could kill them but it was super-difficult and they'd take over another avatar close by and be on your ass again in like 10 seconds. All these bots are is cannon fodder for the heroes
Neo's apartment from The Matrix was apparently a loft? No I remember it was in some concrete basement that looked like something you'd see underneath an industrial wasteland or something. It wasn't airy and light wtf
Oooh, the Suits. The robots who run the Machine Empire! Who gives a fuck? ANOTHER group of bad guys? We got the Merovingian's hobo programs, we got Neil Patrick Harris as the front man for the Machines, but his robot bosses aren't happy with him, we got Smith... that's three definite and four potential bad guy forces. That's about two too many
The red pill is exactly the same, there is no philosophy expounded here that rejects "the red pill" as the avenue to truth, to choice, to freedom. The Indian girl from reloaded and revolutions all grown up says it isn't necessary to use the red pill to free a character at the end, but that's because she says she can achieve the same results using a different method because she's a super cool program
Now there are some very nice looking shots in the big chase scene at the end but overall the movie is just visually uninteresting. and most of those good looking shots aren't action shots
This chase scene that is the climax of the movie is so far inferior to the freeway chase in Reloaded that it's sad
There are too many characters
The pacing is bad
The music is meh
The action is bad except for one fight scene and that fight scene is not some amazing blow you away thing. it's good but that's it. Look all these old people can't move like they could 20, 22 years ago. Stop making these movies where they have to do all this action. Neo has his powers back for like half the movie, CGI that shit up with him throwing people around, collapsing walls on them, whatever, with his matrix powers. we do not need every damn fight in this movie to involve kung fu at some point
The merovingian has some super based madlad things to say
Overall I give it a 5/10 and about 4 of that is the merovingian making me laugh and 1 is nostalgia
I will not comment on the very big amazing wonderful thing that happens in this movie
I had lost the capacity to feel anything by then
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Why do you faggots keep giving this movie that is bad, and was literally always going to be bad, money?
I won't go back and do this, but from this point on: Unless you explicitly state that you sailed the high seas to watch this (and I personally wouldn't even do that to watch this.), if you say that you watched this movie and didn't like it, I'm going to give you the puzzle piece that you are clearly asking for when you make such a statement.
When you reward garbage by giving it money, you have nobody to blame but yourself when you get even more garbage.
I know stickers are literally worthless here, and in fairness if you say that you paid money to watch this and you actually liked it... I'm not here to take that from you. I might give you a different sticker depending on what you actually say, but I can promise you, it won't be the puzzle piece. XD
I won't go back and do this, but from this point on: Unless you explicitly state that you sailed the high seas to watch this (and I personally wouldn't even do that to watch this.), if you say that you watched this movie and didn't like it, I'm going to give you the puzzle piece that you are clearly asking for when you make such a statement.
When you reward garbage by giving it money, you have nobody to blame but yourself when you get even more garbage.
I know stickers are literally worthless here, and in fairness if you say that you paid money to watch this and you actually liked it... I'm not here to take that from you. I might give you a different sticker depending on what you actually say, but I can promise you, it won't be the puzzle piece. XD
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You have to be an omega-level retard to assume this, considering the movie was available on torrent sites in UHD quality on the day of release.
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Multiple people in this thread have already freely admitted to paying money to see this garbage. I'm not out of touch, it's the children who are wrong.
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I will join you in your noble quest.
"Why are all movies this shitty nowadays?"
-person that runs to the cinema to watch every single one of them within the week that they launch, even though they know it's going to suck.
Gee whiz. Why don't movies improve? Boggles the mind.
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The first 40 minutes were clearly trying to be like Wes Craven's New Nightmare, only it completely missed how you properly make meta humour and parody work. Parody is when you lovingly poke holes in the original, not just take a giant steaming shit on it and go "look, we're self aware!". The only parts that understood how parody and self referential humour worked were Morpheus' scenes, both because the actor understood good comedic timing and because the "At laaaast" part understood how ridiculous it was. But there was very little actual self awareness. Self awareness isn't just going "see, we did this funny thing that makes fun of the original!", it's understanding what's so ridiculous.
For a movie that attempts to tug on the heartstrings of the original it somehow manages to feel like it was made by people who have never seen it or just looked up the plot summary on Wikipedia. Why are red pills just readily available? Why can someone just pop a red pill and enter the real world in like 5 seconds now? Why is the Deja Vu cat a mascot and not a sign of instability in The Matrix? How did Morpheus get an SMG and a pistol in the bathroom stall (no, Lana, The Matrix isn't Inception where you can just "dream up" guns)? Why are people able to exit the Matrix without needing to find a payphone, but then when Neo is about to be unplugged during the scene where he tries to wake up Trinity, that means imminent death? Why can Trinity fly without even trying but Neo struggles?
The movie felt like a mix of Space Jam 2 and Glass (the Shyamalan film). I'm glad I didn't have high expectations for the film because it felt very unceremonious and disrespectful. The only good parts were the unintentionally funny parts, and most of those were in the middle of the film. Imagine making a Matrix movie worse than Revolutions, holy shit. Lana Wachowski should have waited until Lilly had taken a break and was ready to work on movies again, because trying to handle it herself was clearly something she wasn't cut out for. 2/10.
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Man, even here opinions seem to be divided between those that found it okay and those who found it to be an absolute piece of crap.
Having thought about the film a bit more, alongside seeing takes from people who claim it to be one of the worst films they've seen all year, like Geeks and Gamers, YellowFlash, The Quartering, and Mauler (all prime lolcow material), I really think that the opening 40 minutes really do not do this film any favors. It takes so long to actually get to the main action of the film, and that is also where nearly all of the cringe filled self-referential hipster moments occur. And the slow pacing does not help in the slightest. Even when it finally gets going, that first impression is a really important part of the viewing experience, and if it doesn't nail it, you can't really get back that groove unless you really work for it.
I think this is also why the action doesn't really feel as good as in previous installments. Because the film is so slowly paced in many sections, you want to be rewarded for your patience with some kind of epic payoff. The first film in particular pulled it off masterfully, giving you such amazing never before seen action setpieces that made it worth seeing multiple times. Even if the rest of the film wasn't the fast-paced and efficiently written work it was, it would still be all worth it to get to those scenes. Resurrections' action sequences by contrast, while not bad on their own merits (even if the camera work could've been a bit less shaky at parts), simply isn't enough to really make the wait feel all that worth it by comparison. It lacks that sense of build-up to them as well, alongside not doing anything particularly new, which is another reason they don't hit as hard.
With all that said, I still stand by my thoughts that it was entertaining enough, and I'm on the whole glad I saw it. It wasn't a complete wokefest like I was fearing, and did have some interesting new developments. But I completely understand why it is getting such hatred from many online. It's simply too flawed, what with how slow paced it is and not enough in terms of satisfying payoff to justify it.
Having thought about the film a bit more, alongside seeing takes from people who claim it to be one of the worst films they've seen all year, like Geeks and Gamers, YellowFlash, The Quartering, and Mauler (all prime lolcow material), I really think that the opening 40 minutes really do not do this film any favors. It takes so long to actually get to the main action of the film, and that is also where nearly all of the cringe filled self-referential hipster moments occur. And the slow pacing does not help in the slightest. Even when it finally gets going, that first impression is a really important part of the viewing experience, and if it doesn't nail it, you can't really get back that groove unless you really work for it.
I think this is also why the action doesn't really feel as good as in previous installments. Because the film is so slowly paced in many sections, you want to be rewarded for your patience with some kind of epic payoff. The first film in particular pulled it off masterfully, giving you such amazing never before seen action setpieces that made it worth seeing multiple times. Even if the rest of the film wasn't the fast-paced and efficiently written work it was, it would still be all worth it to get to those scenes. Resurrections' action sequences by contrast, while not bad on their own merits (even if the camera work could've been a bit less shaky at parts), simply isn't enough to really make the wait feel all that worth it by comparison. It lacks that sense of build-up to them as well, alongside not doing anything particularly new, which is another reason they don't hit as hard.
With all that said, I still stand by my thoughts that it was entertaining enough, and I'm on the whole glad I saw it. It wasn't a complete wokefest like I was fearing, and did have some interesting new developments. But I completely understand why it is getting such hatred from many online. It's simply too flawed, what with how slow paced it is and not enough in terms of satisfying payoff to justify it.