The Mining Pit

[Null]

The ability to run the WebAssembly miner through a first-party domain websocket can bypass a lot of simple ad blocking techniques

[video]junk/That's the idea.webm[/video]

 

[Joan Nyan]

The miner says its off but the hashes are counting up. Gib me back my hashes plx

 

[Null]

The miner says its off but the hashes are counting up. Gib me back my hashes plx

I want you to hang yourself.

If anyone who's not Jon can replicate the issue let me know.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Man now I'm jealous, my fuccboi hardware gets that many hashes at 80%

 

[neger psykolog]

The major news outlets have been writing shit about da evil hackers breaking into sites and installing similar miners to these very recently.

I'm expecting Chrome/other major browsers to start releasing updates which deal with it.

 

[Null]

I'm expecting Chrome/other major browsers to start releasing updates which deal with it.

Indeed. I'm not sure how they'd approach it, though, aside from reducing the total CPU that a tab can use. I'm not even sure if that'd affect us because of how much we idle the process. It'd also adversely effect legitimately processor-heavy sites on mobile devices and tablets.

 

[neger psykolog]

Indeed. I'm not sure how they'd approach it, though, aside from reducing the total CPU that a tab can use. I'm not even sure if that'd affect us because of how much we idle the process. It'd also adversely effect legitimately processor-heavy sites on mobile devices and tablets.

I'm thinking they're going to pop up a notification saying "THIS SITE IS TRYNA USE YOUR CPU". A recent thing happened with all the 'proxy switching' apps (of which I use one). These apps basically get permission to fully access/reroute your connection because they need to. There were some illegitimate apps also doing it, meaning some users had let these work without really knowing about it.

Chrome's solution was to put a pop up next to the extension informing you that the app had full control to your first born rather than restrict them entirely because they do have a very useful purpose.

 

[Null]

I'm thinking they're going to pop up a notification saying "THIS SITE IS TRYNA USE YOUR CPU". A recent thing happened with all the 'proxy switching' apps (of which I use one). These apps basically get permission to fully access/reroute your connection because they need to. There were some illegitimate apps also doing it, meaning some users had let these work without really knowing about it.

Chrome's solution was to put a pop up next to the extension informing you that the app had full control to your first born rather than restrict them entirely because they do have a very useful purpose.

But how would they differentiate between processing being used for regular purposes and mining?

 

[neger psykolog]

But how would they differentiate between processing being used for regular purposes and mining?

They'll probably have some way to identify it, because its not a normal use of a CPU. I'm not sure about that though because its quite a technical thing.

Their other alternative of course is to list the site as malware, but I'm being optimistic and saying they won't because that'd be dumb.

 

[CrunkLord420]

But how would they differentiate between processing being used for regular purposes and mining?

Maybe browsers get strict about executing WebAssembly, it becomes a thing like "Don't enable ActiveX bro!!!". I don't think people really considered miners at the time, and just assumed the fact it's sandboxed like regular JS was enough to avoid abuse. WebAssembly can be disabled without affecting existing JS so it's not like the browser is agnostic when it comes to it: https://github.com/stevespringett/disable-webassembly

There's very few uses of WebAssembly at the moment, games, mostly. If the internet becomes less dependent overall on JavaScript because of miners I'd call that a good thing.

 

[Null]

I'll put 1 XMR on Google being the first to disable it by default, simply because with this mechanism there is zero reason for me to miss Google AdSense. Their ad program is being crippled by the sheer volume of utter contempt for their company.

 

[neger psykolog]

I'll put 1 XMR on Google being the first to disable it by default, simply because with this mechanism there is zero reason for me to miss Google AdSense. Their ad program is being crippled by the sheer volume of utter contempt for their company.

Just start a betting pool for predicting the outcomes of lolcows.
If people could bet on people like Chrischan/DSP/etc failing within the next 3-6-12 months you'd have a goldmine on your hands.

 

[Male Idiot]

Okey Null, I don't mind contributing with my electric bill and net bill, since the pc will be running and the net is a fix fee, I like the forum so why not?

But I would like to ask a few questions and I'm too tired from work to shift through the thread. Could someone please explain the following parts:

1: Does this process turn off if I am not on Kiwifarms?
2: Can my computer become target to Malware, either by associated sites, or by counter-programs designed to interrupt this miner?
3: Can I get into legal trouble for it? I doubt it, but still, can my ISP ban me for this or some shit?
4: If my super duper trollputer mines a lot, can I be a True and Honest Fan too and get a Horrifying rating ?
5: Can any hacker attacking Kiwifarms to steal our digital kiwishekels do harm to our computers too?

Thank you for your time.

 

[Null]

1: Does this process turn off if I am not on Kiwifarms?

Yes? You're not installing anything.

2: Can my computer become target to Malware, either by associated sites, or by counter-programs designed to interrupt this miner?

There are no associated sites. It's all homegrown.

3: Can I get into legal trouble for it? I doubt it, but still, can my ISP ban me for this or some shit?

What? No. Wtf.

4: If my super duper trollputer mines a lot, can I be a True and Honest Fan too and get a Horrifying rating ?

I don't have a way of measuring contributions right now because Coinhive was the one monitoring that, but my intent was to have currency rewards later.

5: Can any hacker attacking Kiwifarms to steal our digital kiwishekels do harm to our computers too?

no? and none of the cryptocurrency is stored on the kf. the rewards are sent to a wallet I keep on my devices.

all of these questions belie a serious, fundamental misunderstanding of how cryptocurrencies work.
and I'm not being a dick, it's just frustrating.

 

[HG 400]

@Null might be an issue with the miner
https://www.reddit.com/r/HPfanficti...christo_had_her_memoir_cancelled_deleted_her/

 

[Male Idiot]

Yes? You're not installing anything.

There are no associated sites. It's all homegrown.

What? No. Wtf.

I don't have a way of measuring contributions right now because Coinhive was the one monitoring that, but my intent was to have currency rewards later.

no? and none of the cryptocurrency is stored on the kf. the rewards are sent to a wallet I keep on my devices.

all of these questions belie a serious, fundamental misunderstanding of how cryptocurrencies work.
and I'm not being a dick, it's just frustrating.

I'm not Jew enough to know about pepeshekels so thanks for explaining it to me.

Thank you for explaining it and yeah I'm a :dumb:dumbass:autism: who barely gets how real paper money works. I just settle for "The gubbermint tells y'all that it worths dis sum o'gold so ya can buy stuff."

I can only wrap my mind properly around the system of currencies which were made out of something valuable, like gold coins, so that they had a scientifically measurable value to everybody.

The intricacy of social, economic and legal systems network that enforces the socially accepted value of colourful strips of paper is too complex for me so bitcoin is way above my brainpower.

 

[Null]

@Null might be an issue with the miner

I doubt it. Chances are dude is just lying.

 

[DNJACK]

processor-heavy sites on mobile devices and tablets.

lol fuck those

 

[FataBataRang]

I doubt it. Chances are dude is just lying.

My computer would be soooo dead right now if he wasn't.

I'll put 1 XMR on Google being the first to disable it by default, simply because with this mechanism there is zero reason for me to miss Google AdSense. Their ad program is being crippled by the sheer volume of utter contempt for their company.

Good. Fuck Google.

 

[AnOminous]

I just want to note on Chrome on a potato, my system slows to a crawl even with the miner on 0%.

On the same potato on Vivaldi, it continues to work fine even if I set it at the default 30%. I think Chrome spawning a separate process for each tab really fucks up its ability to cope with the miner interface on each tab. Either it's actually still mining on Chrome at 0%, or just the interface itself fucks up Chrome (especially on potatos with limited CPU and RAM).

I'm not sure if you could get more out of it by enabling GPU mining, but probably not easily, since you'd have to use separate code for all the kinds of GPUs out there. Also gamers who leave their browsers up while playing would probably suffer.