The Mozilla Megathread - All News & Discussion Relating to the Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla Corporation, Firefox, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, and Related Projects Go Here

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
I'm finally glad to see Mozilla/Firefox get some of it's ass kicked. The only people puckering up and sucking firefox's dick anymore are fanboys. Mozilla knows they aren't ever going to be a relevant force in the browser marketshare and honestly, never has been, so they probably feel stirring up controversy and just shitting the bed is their best course of option.

I don't really care about the politics in regard to LibreWolf, which is what I'm using, as long as the browser itself both doesn't make me feel shitty for using it because of things like AI implementation, needing to make an account to sync things, targeted advertisement and other unnecessary additions. Oh and I've been tired of Firefox's performance for years and pretending that it's a better alternative out of all of the recognizable browsers there is to pick. They never, ever fixed the memory leak issue since as far back as Version 3.0. Their browser consumes a lot of system resources for even three idling tabs as opposed to when Chrome does it or any other browser.

And no, not a lot of Firefox forks are safe from the performance issues so I'm not going to praise LibreWolf as being lightweight. It's just Mozilla code being that awful that it plagues all the forks built off from it.

Thunderbird loves to break one of my logins when I try sending mail, like through Outlook, with authentication errors. It can display my mail, which good for it I guess, but it wouldn't hurt to also enable me to mail from the address too. That's another piece of shit from Mozilla that has its own problems.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Samuel Fuller and HalHalliday
I don't like LibreWolf. I can appreciate that it makes a preconfigured private Firefox easily accessible to anyone, but not being able to self-update completely defeats the point. You can't have privacy without security and users that value convenience will rarely manually update if ever, and that's a problem. Just take 5 minutes to find a user.js with the settings you want and paste it in your profile folder (about:profiles > Open Folder). Then you'll have the same thing as LibreWolf but you'll actually get updates too.

Try Floorp. It's a Firefox ESR fork made by Japanese high school students. Been running it with Narcil's arkenfox user.js as my daily driver and it's pretty great—insane amount of tweaks. It's not privacy concerns that made me finally quit using Firefox, it's more that the legal implications of their ToS changes are so vague that I want nothing to do with it.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: PingLing, Pepe Cortisona, ZMOT and 1 other person
Fartpal said:
I don't like LibreWolf. I can appreciate that it makes a preconfigured private Firefox easily accessible to anyone, but not being able to self-update completely defeats the point. You can't have privacy without security and users that value convenience will rarely manually update if ever, and that's a problem. Just take 5 minutes to find a user.js with the settings you want and paste it in your profile folder (about:profiles > Open Folder). Then you'll have the same thing as LibreWolf but you'll actually get updates too.

Try Floorp. It's a Firefox ESR fork made by Japanese high school students. Been running it with Narcil's arkenfox user.js as my daily driver and it's pretty great—insane amount of tweaks. It's not privacy concerns that made me finally quit using Firefox, it's more that the legal implications of their ToS changes are so vague that I want nothing to do with it.
Click to expand...
easy as
Bash: 
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
which if you aren't doing regularly anyways, you have bigger problems.
 
  • Dumb
Reactions: Samuel Fuller and Nitro!
Squishie PP said:
easy as
Bash: 
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
which if you aren't doing regularly anyways, you have bigger problems.
Click to expand...
Congrats on being able to use a terminal in Debian, but aside from ignoring Windows users, you're assuming every distro has a readily available APT/Flatpak. For the ones that do, you're still not getting immediate security fixes directly from Mozilla, you're relying on a small third-party team. Last release was a day behind for example.

Trust me, it's a waste of time. Don't get me started on their cringe woke social media slapfights. Stick with arkenfox if you want a Firefox browser.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Flaming Dumpster and Samuel Fuller
Lone Wandering Courier said:
Honestly, I don't get people who use Librewolf on Windows. If you are concerned enough about privacy and corporations fucking with software (and extensions) enough to use librewolf, why aren't you using Linux?
Click to expand...
Its like Firefox on a corporate laptop that you are provided at work, mostly "why not?", especially if IT isn't being unreasonable obstructionists.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
In further Firefox news, they aren't happy with the DoJ proposal to break up Google's search monopoly because Google pays Mozilla a lot of money to be the default search engine in Firefox. Article/Archive

“This isn’t something we do because it’s profitable or easy,” said Surman. “We do it because it matters. The DOJ’s proposal doesn’t just miss the mark, it risks handing even more power to dominant industry players like Google or Apple, not less.”

This feels like another Canada situation - if you can't survive without payouts from a much larger organization, do you deserve to exist at all?
Click to expand...
Crossposting this here to not shit up the other thread too much. Mozilla is panicking because it knows it can't continue in it's current form without the handouts from google.

  • Shaping the future of web standards—maintaining our own browser engine, Gecko, gives us a voice in defining how the web works and making decisions that are in support of people, not the bottom-line.
  • Ensuring interoperability—we fight for a web accessible to all—where anyone can create, access, and share content seamlessly, regardless of the devices or web services they use—not locked into a few ecosystems.
  • Proving that privacy-respecting technology is possible—we build critical web technologies with security, privacy and user agency at the core.
Click to expand...
These are some points why they should get a handout. First two are moot because mozilla doesn't care enough to implement web standards and it's partly why they are losing users. Websites are forced to work around gecko bugs when it just works in chrome. Third one is amusing as they just tarnished their privacy focused image.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
Reactions: clipartfan92, MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti and Ibanez RG 350EX
Today they are beginning manually disabling all extensions from non-approved Firefox versions. So if you are running any older versions of Firefox they will force your extensions from working which includes all security extensions like scripts and ad blockers making your browser much more vulnerable to attack. If you upgrade the browser to one of Mozilla's approved versions they will then only restore approved extensions and will now not allow side-loading or manual installations of older 'unsupported' extensions.

Every once in a while Mozilla purges the extensions and browser add-ons for Firefox. And disallows their use going forward. But this time they've made it even more difficult to manually install the older versions or run your own custom extensions without getting them approved through Mozilla. So in the future if you have some custom re-direct script or download utility or script blocker with tons of custom settings the next time you start your browser it will be permanently disabled unless you have the technical skills to restore it.
 
  • Informative
  • Horrifying
Reactions: Potatoherder, Another Char Clone, Rusty Metal Skull Gun and 2 others
TheHarbinger said:
Today they are beginning manually disabling all extensions from non-approved Firefox versions. So if you are running any older versions of Firefox they will force your extensions from working which includes all security extensions like scripts and ad blockers making your browser much more vulnerable to attack. If you upgrade the browser to one of Mozilla's approved versions they will then only restore approved extensions and will now not allow side-loading or manual installations of older 'unsupported' extensions.

Every once in a while Mozilla purges the extensions and browser add-ons for Firefox. And disallows their use going forward. But this time they've made it even more difficult to manually install the older versions or run your own custom extensions without getting them approved through Mozilla. So in the future if you have some custom re-direct script or download utility or script blocker with tons of custom settings the next time you start your browser it will be permanently disabled unless you have the technical skills to restore it.
Click to expand...
And just after Google, which funds Mozilla, has just banned adblock from its own browser. Fancy that.
I hope the feds are paying attention.
 
TheHarbinger said:
Today they are beginning manually disabling all extensions from non-approved Firefox versions. So if you are running any older versions of Firefox they will force your extensions from working which includes all security extensions like scripts and ad blockers making your browser much more vulnerable to attack. If you upgrade the browser to one of Mozilla's approved versions they will then only restore approved extensions and will now not allow side-loading or manual installations of older 'unsupported' extensions.

Every once in a while Mozilla purges the extensions and browser add-ons for Firefox. And disallows their use going forward. But this time they've made it even more difficult to manually install the older versions or run your own custom extensions without getting them approved through Mozilla. So in the future if you have some custom re-direct script or download utility or script blocker with tons of custom settings the next time you start your browser it will be permanently disabled unless you have the technical skills to restore it.
Click to expand...
I just switched to firefox a few days ago since google nuked most of my favorite extensions, this is all so retarded
 
TheHarbinger said:
Today they are beginning manually disabling all extensions from non-approved Firefox versions. So if you are running any older versions of Firefox they will force your extensions from working which includes all security extensions like scripts and ad blockers making your browser much more vulnerable to attack. If you upgrade the browser to one of Mozilla's approved versions they will then only restore approved extensions and will now not allow side-loading or manual installations of older 'unsupported' extensions.

Every once in a while Mozilla purges the extensions and browser add-ons for Firefox. And disallows their use going forward. But this time they've made it even more difficult to manually install the older versions or run your own custom extensions without getting them approved through Mozilla. So in the future if you have some custom re-direct script or download utility or script blocker with tons of custom settings the next time you start your browser it will be permanently disabled unless you have the technical skills to restore it.
Click to expand...
Isn't this because of a cert expiration though?
 
  • Like
  • Agree
Reactions: Monster from the Id, dissociating and teriyakiburns
>Refuse to update Firefox
>Extensions break

>Switch over to LibreWolf(same version)
>Extensions break

>Go back to using old version of TOR
>Extensions break

I am so done with Mozilla. Is there something that works off Chromium with similar features that TOR has by default?
 
  • Dumb
Reactions: Dante Alighieri and teriyakiburns
30+GameOvers said:
Are there forced updates and does it have a problem with uBlock Origin and adblockers? I heard that Google is going in that direction.
Click to expand...
Updates are not forced, it works fine(*as good as it can being chromium based) with unlock origin and has a built-in adblocker
 
Kuroyuri said:
Updates are not forced, it works fine(*as good as it can being chromium based) with unlock origin and has a built-in adblocker
Click to expand...
As long as it doesn't force me to update and doesn't have a built in kill switch, that's fine by me
No more Mozilla for me. I'm blacklisting everything these niggers make from my life.
 
A fake uBlock Origin extension with malware was up on the AMO for multiple days (archive), currently being discussed on reddit (link), from the same thread an alleged screenshot of its source code, but it's so comical I find it difficult to believe it. The extension (and another one published by the same developer, "Adobe flash player", presumably also malicious) was quickly taken down after being reposted on /r/firefox, where a Mozilla employee forwarded it internally (direct link, archive). Either way, it's a reminder the AMO is not risk-free and even low effort malicious code may pass whatever review process they do. Trust the signatures.

Edit: Apparently there's more with the same code. "adblock plus 2025", with url "player-ali-video" (archive), has the same source code. Attached is a screenshot of it, if you're curious what you can get away with uploading.
content.webp
background.webp
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
  • Horrifying
  • Like
Reactions: cactus, Dunkin DoNUT, botrix_fan and 9 others
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back