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Well I called this wolves warriors series completley wrong; my apologies to Julius Randle, I never should've doubted you you downey looking bastard.
 
SGA got a taste of the Jokic experience tonight. Jaylen Williams with an impressively bad 3-16 from the floor, Denver suddenly realises they have more than one bench player and now we have another game 7 on our hands.
I would love Denver to win on the road but I expect OKC to blow them out.
 
Damn I haven't been getting notifs for this thread. Lot's happened, lotta upsets, and the playoffs have generally been fun if sometimes unfortunately impacted by injuries. Let's go against the grain for a bit.

I don't think that draft lottery rigging is a real thing in the modern NBA. The way things are done now leaves far too many moving parts to keep things under wraps. The commissioner, the Mavs and Spurs owners, the other 28 owners who would have no reason to go along with this, the media, the independent verifiers, everyone's lawyers, the ping pong ball manufacturing company... at the end of the day, a 1.8% chance is low but not impossibly so. If you roll a 20 sided die and get the same roll twice in a row then you've achieved something rarer.

That being said, the confluence of circumstances here are just comical. The Dallas Mavericks suffer a manic episode and ditch their franchise guy for no reason and go from a championship hopeful team to the top of the draft lottery. They proceed to win it in a year with a stacked draft, and to top it all off the guy they want to get is white. For the Dallas Mavericks, of all teams. Rip to the actually terrible teams like the Hornets and Wizards who got shafted this lotto though to be honest those teams often have bad organizations so I kinda don't want exciting prospects to languish in hell for 8 years the way LeBron did on his first Cleveland stint
 
Active User said:
Damn I haven't been getting notifs for this thread. Lot's happened, lotta upsets, and the playoffs have generally been fun if sometimes unfortunately impacted by injuries. Let's go against the grain for a bit.

I don't think that draft lottery rigging is a real thing in the modern NBA. The way things are done now leaves far too many moving parts to keep things under wraps. The commissioner, the Mavs and Spurs owners, the other 28 owners who would have no reason to go along with this, the media, the independent verifiers, everyone's lawyers, the ping pong ball manufacturing company... at the end of the day, a 1.8% chance is low but not impossibly so. If you roll a 20 sided die and get the same roll twice in a row then you've achieved something rarer.

That being said, the confluence of circumstances here are just comical. The Dallas Mavericks suffer a manic episode and ditch their franchise guy for no reason and go from a championship hopeful team to the top of the draft lottery. They proceed to win it in a year with a stacked draft, and to top it all off the guy they want to get is white. For the Dallas Mavericks, of all teams. Rip to the actually terrible teams like the Hornets and Wizards who got shafted this lotto though to be honest those teams often have bad organizations so I kinda don't want exciting prospects to languish in hell for 8 years the way LeBron did on his first Cleveland stint
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The mavs organization has the opportunity to do another mind bendingly funny zag with this draft; I hope Nico doubles down on his outside the box ideas, I look forward to a Wemby Flagg combo.
 
Active User said:
I don't think that draft lottery rigging is a real thing in the modern NBA.
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I disagree. It'd be one thing if this was a one off or once in five years/decade, but there's been several times that a low percentage team who just so happened to make a big move/trade gets the #1 pick (Cleveland the year LeBron left, New Orleans when they sold the franchise, New Orleans again when AD went to the Lakers, and now Dallas after trading Luka).
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
Praying for a Pacers-Wolves finals!!!
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I know it has only happened twice in NBA history that a team from outside the top 3 in the conference has won the finals (Boston in 1969 and Houston in 1995) but what you're describing would be the first time both finals teams were from outside the top 3.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
The mavs organization has the opportunity to do another mind bendingly funny zag with this draft; I hope Nico doubles down on his outside the box ideas, I look forward to a Wemby Flagg combo.
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Genuine shot we get a Wemby Giannis combo given rumblings about the Spurs trading both their picks for him.
Señora Airi said:
I disagree. It'd be one thing if this was a one off or once in five years/decade, but there's been several times that a low percentage team who just so happened to make a big move/trade gets the #1 pick (Cleveland the year LeBron left, New Orleans when they sold the franchise, New Orleans again when AD went to the Lakers, and now Dallas after trading Luka).
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Can't say I know anything about the Pels picks, but Cleveland's not a great example. The pick was won by the Clippers, they just didn't protect it for some reason and it was a weak draft anyways. The Cavs got several high picks back to back but that was because they sucked and were constantly in the lottery. This year's being scripted would also imply a state-mandated Kyrie injury, since that's a lot of how they ended up finishing so poorly. I can believe that drafts in the past had been rigged, and I can believe that fingers are placed on scales and switches are flipped in other ways in the modern day, but it just doesn't really make sense for that many people adversely impacted to sign off on that today.
 
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[...] it just doesn't really make sense for that many people adversely impacted to sign off on that today.
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I agree, if the other teams found evidence or proof of draft rigging - especially as part of a collusion to get Luka to the Lakers - what reason would they have to not sue the shit out of the NBA? Whatever revenue is generated by the Lakers having Luka would surely be outweighed by the potential loss of revenue if the NBA got found out.

Occam's Razor dictates that Nico Harrison is just a genuine retard who got an unbelievably lucky break.
 
Señora Airi said:
Knicks win series,
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Weird how Mazulla was coach of the year last year and seemed utterly clueless this series. I don't blame him for the Celtics losing to the Knicks, not exactly, but blowing 20 point leads in two games and then getting completely blown out in Game 6 does strike me as a failure of coaching on some level or other. There's losing, and then there's losing like the Celtics did this series.

And goddamn I wish I could make $30 million a year being as bad at my job as that human slab of lard Porgzingis, or however you spell his name.

Señora Airi said:
ECF is gonna be Knicks-Pacers. I really want a middle aged Reggie Miller shows up courtside to talk shit to Spike Lee.
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I kind of hope the Pacers take it all, honestly. (Said after watching about four minutes of highlights. 🤷‍♂️)
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
I kind of hope the Pacers take it all, honestly.
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In order of who I want to take it all:
1. Nuggets (I wanna see Russ get a ring)
2. Pacers (would be nice to see them finally win one)
3. TWolves (same as Pacers)
4. Knicks (only reason I wanna see them win is to see Trump declare Martial Law in order to calm down the celebratory riots).
 
Señora Airi said:
In order of who I want to take it all:
1. Nuggets (I wanna see Russ get a ring)
2. Pacers (would be nice to see them finally win one)
3. TWolves (same as Pacers)
4. Knicks (only reason I wanna see them win is to see Trump declare Martial Law in order to calm down the celebratory riots).
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Thunder not even on the list lol. The Nuggets winning it all would be cool for storylines, because it'd be kinda nuts. They fire their GM and their head coach just before the playoffs and rather than crashing and burning Jokic morphs into a player-coach and the others around him step their game up and they go all the way, beating the likely MVP and a 68 win team on the way there as well as the team that knocked them out last year. It would also push Jokic up the all time rankings if it was somehow to be pulled off. Westbrook also gets a ring, and as a real contributing piece since by the numbers he's one of the best bench players in the playoffs.

Never been super excited about the Pacers, dunno why. May have been that I liked the Cavs this year and injuries are a bit of an unfortunate way for them to go out.
 
Active User said:
Thunder not even on the list lol.
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I don't even know why I forgot about them. I'd put them below TWolves and above Knicks. It'd be nice to finally see that franchise win a ring, but I'd rather see the Pacers or TWolves win theirs.
 
In terms of the franchises with zero championships, I wouldn't mind seeing the Pacers win, because they have been consistently successful without ever being good enough to win it. I have respect for the way they have gone about it, though. They hire quality people and build their teams intelligently.

Timberwolves on the other hand, are a lolcow franchise who have consistently found a way to shit the bed even when they have the opportunity to be successful. Now they have managed to have a top 5 player, an all-time great defense, a sixth man of the year, quality shooters all over the floor, and I still expect them to mess it up one way or another.

All that being said I would much prefer a Nuggets vs. Knicks finals.
 
Me personally, I think Knicks/Timberwolves is going to be the best possible finals.

ANT is going to be the new black american face of the league (Cooper for white America, Wemby/Luka international faces), Knicks are going to bring that starlight glamour, and if the Knicks win, NYC riots. if they lose, NYC riots. a win win!
 
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