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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
ColtWalker1847 said:
He derailed his career by sucking. The league figured him out and he was too dumb to know how to change. He then lit his career on fire with the activist shit which inflated his ego to ridiculous proportions and demanded a bunch of money and a starting job so he never became a low-cost reclamation project. This was after he got beaten for a starting job by Blaine Gabbert.

He's an idiot who sucked. Final answer.
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Bullshit. Kap was one of the best performing QB’s in the league, basically in the Stafford tier. Statistically speaking, he was in the top 10, easily. When he went shopping for a new contract is when they blackballed him.
 
Techpriest said:
Bullshit. Kap was one of the best performing QB’s in the league, basically in the Stafford tier. Statistically speaking, he was in the top 10, easily. When he went shopping for a new contract is when they blackballed him.
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Lol keep telling yourself that and masturbating to statistics.
He had the worst vision of any starting QB possibly ever. If the coach wasn't whispering what to do in his ear he was lost. Richard Sherman made a career out of baiting him because HE COULDN'T READ A DEFENSE.
 
Techpriest said:
Kap was banned by owners. He got a massive settlement from the league because of it - he was deliberately being kept from being hired by ownership despite his performance and his willingness to tryout and do interviews with them.
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Unless I'm thinking of something totally different, didn't John Elway offer him a tryout with the Broncos only to be turned down?
 
Techpriest said:
Kap was banned by owners. He got a massive settlement from the league because of it - he was deliberately being kept from being hired by ownership despite his performance and his willingness to tryout and do interviews with them.
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ColtWalker1847 said:
He derailed his career by sucking. The league figured him out and he was too dumb to know how to change. He then lit his career on fire with the activist shit which inflated his ego to ridiculous proportions and demanded a bunch of money and a starting job so he never became a low-cost reclamation project. This was after he got beaten for a starting job by Blaine Gabbert.

He's an idiot who sucked. Final answer.
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I just like to point out that it does not really look like a good idea when you ignore the likes of Ray Lewis and John Elway and act as if you’re bigger than the both of them. That “activist” thing was just a publicity stunt.

He may have been good in his early years, but the more you saw of him in his later years, the guy just did not know how to adapt to current star quarterback style of players like Mahomes, Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.
 
ColtWalker1847 said:
Lol keep telling yourself that and masturbating to statistics.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F2MUiIcwQPMHe had the worst vision of any starting QB possibly ever. If the coach wasn't whispering what to do in his ear he was lost. Richard Sherman made a career out of baiting him because HE COULDN'T READ A DEFENSE.
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I remember he was one of those QBs who was a good runner and bad passer, and got by on the novelty before defense caught up to him.
 
Kaepernick lost a training camp battle to BLAINE FUCKING GABBERT, and then when Gabbert got injured Kaepernick went 0-11 for the rest of the season with middling at best stats.
 
Local Fed said:
Unless I'm thinking of something totally different, didn't John Elway offer him a tryout with the Broncos only to be turned down?
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Offered, plus there was the fact that the Broncos weren’t actually offering anything. They wanted him to tryout to try and avoid the appearance of collusion among owners. There was no way in hell they were offering him market value in a contract. Which is why Kap wanted an independent one - because he damn well knew the league was trying to fuck him. I think one of the legal conditions for the tryout involved signing away his right to a lawsuit.
 
Local Fed said:
Unless I'm thinking of something totally different, didn't John Elway offer him a tryout with the Broncos only to be turned down?
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In the interest of fairness, from Business Insider: "According to reports at the time, the Broncos were offering Kaepernick a deal with $7 million in base salary. That year he was slated to earn $11.9 million in base salary from the 49ers. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported at the time that the Broncos wanted the 49ers to make up the additional $4.9 million and they would not. Kaepernick refused to give up the remaining $4.9 million. The talks eventually fell apart... Last year, he accused owners of collusion in a grievance, claiming his protest during the national anthem led teams not to sign him. Several NFL owners and front office members have been deposed as part of the grievance. Elway on Thursday he even noted that he said during his deposition that Kaepernick turned down the offer."
 
Techpriest said:
Bullshit. Kap was one of the best performing QB’s in the league, basically in the Stafford tier. Statistically speaking, he was in the top 10, easily. When he went shopping for a new contract is when they blackballed him.
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By the time he started getting political and cause a stir he was on his way to the bench. Then when the league forced a rep from all 32 teams to go to a private Kapernick workout, at the last moment he moved the try out, because he makes too much money as a blm martyr. Just ask Michele Tofoya its the whole reason she got fired.
 
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TsundereDev said:
In the interest of fairness, from Business Insider: "According to reports at the time, the Broncos were offering Kaepernick a deal with $7 million in base salary. That year he was slated to earn $11.9 million in base salary from the 49ers. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported at the time that the Broncos wanted the 49ers to make up the additional $4.9 million and they would not. Kaepernick refused to give up the remaining $4.9 million. The talks eventually fell apart... Last year, he accused owners of collusion in a grievance, claiming his protest during the national anthem led teams not to sign him. Several NFL owners and front office members have been deposed as part of the grievance. Elway on Thursday he even noted that he said during his deposition that Kaepernick turned down the offer."
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Yeah, that’s pretty standard collusion bullshit. You’re owed the money you negotiated for on your old contract. One team refusing to pay it and both teams pressuring you on it was part of the reason his lawsuit went ahead.


EDIT: Good video from a stat nerd on Kap. Kap was blackballed with a 90.7 Passer rating. Joe Flacco had a job and he was at a 77.

 
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Techpriest said:
Yeah, that’s pretty standard collusion bullshit. You’re owed the money you negotiated for on your old contract. One team refusing to pay it and both teams pressuring you on it was part of the reason his lawsuit went ahead.
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"Eat a poison pill $12m contract for a washed up backup QB or you are colluding"
Get the fuck out of here.
They wanted the niners to make up the difference but it worked out better for them to leave the contract the way it was. They then asked him if he would eat it in exchange for getting another shot. Guys take cuts in pay for restructured contracts all the time when their value tanks and considering what a disaster his last few years in SF were he was lucky to get offered $7m. He turned it down. That's on him.
 
You know, for as bad as Stafford can be at times, he has been the quarterback for two different receivers having 1900+ yard seasons. That counts for something.
 
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