The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

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If he wasn't retarded, he'd see that $133m is better than nothing. He'd also understand that giving 2% to an agent is worth it when he's getting you tons of money. But I must be pro agent to think like that.

At this point I'm sure he could get the agent fees really low, since if you could get Lamar a contract as the man tries to destroy his whole damn career I'm sure that would be good publicity.

I mean at this point even Ravens fans are going from pay that man to wtf this nigga doing...

 

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At this point I'm sure he could get the agent fees really low, since if you could get Lamar a contract as the man tries to destroy his whole damn career I'm sure that would be good publicity.

I mean at this point even Ravens fans are going from pay that man to wtf this nigga doing...

He might be too dug in at this point to ever get an agent, even if he realizes its the right thing to do. It'll be hilarious if he's out of the league cause of this.

The only Raven fan I know of is on Lamar's side. And he's white!

 

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Eagles wanted to implement the XFL's onside kick replacement rules but were rejected.

That's surprising. I was almost sure they'd go through with it.

 

[Absolutego]

Eagles wanted to implement the XFL's onside kick replacement rules but were rejected.

That's surprising. I was almost sure they'd go through with it.

They tabled it instead of voting it down, they might just be at an impasse over the particulars for the moment.
I am also surprised it didn't pass, as it's yet another rule change making the offense the center of the entire game, this time at the expense of special teams instead of defense.

 

[Salubrious]

I'm starting to give legitimate consideration to nobody offering him a deal, including the Ravens.

What would happen if this gets to July 17th and the deadline passes? Would Lamar play this season for $32M and start this all over again?

Or do the Colts blink first? Irsay seems like a man desperate for a QB.

Follow-up question: If Irsay gives Lamar $210M guaranteed, do you think the Ravens just say "fuck it, take him"?

 

[Absolutego]

I'm starting to give legitimate consideration to nobody offering him a deal, including the Ravens.

What would happen if this gets to July 17th and the deadline passes? Would Lamar play this season for $32M and start this all over again?

Or do the Colts blink first? Irsay seems like a man desperate for a QB.

Follow-up question: If Irsay gives Lamar $210M guaranteed, do you think the Ravens just say "fuck it, take him"?

He's already got the tag AND an open deal for him to sign for like 250 million, 130-something guaranteed from the Ravens. The ball is metaphorically in his court. If he's serious about the trade, sign the tag. If he's accepted it's the best offer the market will give him (whether he blames that on owner collusion or over-shooting his shot is immaterial), sign the Ravens' best offer.

I fully expect the only way an actual trade happens is if some GM panics, either after day 1 of the draft or in the middle of OTAs, and gives him what he always wanted: Watson's contract, and then some. And even then, if it's only a little bump over Watson the Ravens may very well eat the fact that it's a trend and sign the offer anyways to keep Lamar.

 

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I fully expect the only way an actual trade happens is if some GM panics, either after day 1 of the draft or in the middle of OTAs, and gives him what he always wanted: Watson's contract, and then some. And even then, if it's only a little bump over Watson the Ravens may very well eat the fact that it's a trend and sign the offer anyways to keep Lamar.

Possible scenario I can see is the Falcons just waiting in the wings while Lamar immolates his own damn career. He'd actually be a pretty good fit for them.

If he keeps causing drama like this I'm sure the Ravens would rather be rid of him. Especially if he starts threatening to sit out next season.

 

[Absolutego]

Possible scenario I can see is the Falcons just waiting in the wings while Lamar immolates his own damn career. He'd actually be a pretty good fit for them.

If he keeps causing drama like this I'm sure the Ravens would rather be rid of him. Especially if he starts threatening to sit out next season.

He would cost himself so much fucking money sitting out next year under the new CBA that I don't see it happening. He'd be out like $5-10 million in holdout penalties alone (I forget if the schedule for penalties to kick in starts from training camp or week 1 of the regular season). As it currently stands that's anywhere from 1/6th to 1/3rd his career earnings.

God help us all if he starts raising a fist or whatever in protest of the owners' collusion and kicks off yet another racially-charged nontroversy throughout the media like Kaepernick did when he wasn't getting what he thought he deserved financially.

 

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They tabled it instead of voting it down, they might just be at an impasse over the particulars for the moment.
I am also surprised it didn't pass, as it's yet another rule change making the offense the center of the entire game, this time at the expense of special teams instead of defense.

I'm really glad it didn't pass. These rules are retarded and turning football into flag football. I know that's their end goal, but I want to hope it doesn't actually go there.

God help us all if he starts raising a fist or whatever in protest of the owners' collusion and kicks off yet another racially-charged nontroversy throughout the media like Kaepernick did when he wasn't getting what he thought he deserved financially.

You know its coming. People are already laying the ground work for it now. It must really suck to be a multimillion plantation worker.

 

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He would cost himself so much fucking money sitting out next year under the new CBA that I don't see it happening. He'd be out like $5-10 million in holdout penalties alone (I forget if the schedule for penalties to kick in starts from training camp or week 1 of the regular season). As it currently stands that's anywhere from 1/6th to 1/3rd his career earnings.

Starts in OTA, you also get a huge fine for sitting out preseason games for some reason.

I looked up the tax rate in Maryland and I'd estimate his net career earnings at around $9m. So yeah you're right this dude could straight up end up owing the league money if he sits. Would be a fitting end to his idiocy though.

 

[CapricornusRex]

He would cost himself so much fucking money sitting out next year under the new CBA that I don't see it happening. He'd be out like $5-10 million in holdout penalties alone (I forget if the schedule for penalties to kick in starts from training camp or week 1 of the regular season). As it currently stands that's anywhere from 1/6th to 1/3rd his career earnings.

God help us all if he starts raising a fist or whatever in protest of the owners' collusion and kicks off yet another racially-charged nontroversy throughout the media like Kaepernick did when he wasn't getting what he thought he deserved financially.

What do you mean would? After year 3 and 4 the Ravens have been offering him contracts that would have made him one of the top 5 highest paid QBs in the league. But because it's not fully guaranteed he refused both. Lamar has lost 40+ MILLION already, and now he's making himself look full blown retarded with how petty he has become and having some dude named Ken Francis be his rep. Lamar said that's not true, but Ken Francis twitter account is something like "LamarsREALrep" or something stupid like that.

There's no collusion. If there was, Lamar would have been on twitter at some point stating that teams won't answer or return his calls because let's not forget, Lamar is his own agent. Not Ken Francis, Lamar. HE is the one who has to make those calls. That is what an agent does. Sure they will take calls from interested teams, but if no teams are reaching out, it's the agent's job to reach out.

 

[Absolutego]

What do you mean would? After year 3 and 4 the Ravens have been offering him contracts that would have made him one of the top 5 highest paid QBs in the league. But because it's not fully guaranteed he refused both. Lamar has lost 40+ MILLION already, and now he's making himself look full blown retarded with how petty he has become and having some dude named Ken Francis be his rep. Lamar said that's not true, but Ken Francis twitter account is something like "LamarsREALrep" or something stupid like that.

There's no collusion. If there was, Lamar would have been on twitter at some point stating that teams won't answer or return his calls because let's not forget, Lamar is his own agent. Not Ken Francis, Lamar. HE is the one who has to make those calls. That is what an agent does. Sure they will take calls from interested teams, but if no teams are reaching out, it's the agent's job to reach out.

I don't think there's collusion (as there are ample reasons to be wary of both letting the Watson contract actually set precedent, instead of being another isolated example of why Jimmy Haslam's a retard, and doing so for a dual threat QB who hasn't finished a full season in 3 years), but the narrative has already been established and, if he wanted to start some stupid Kaepernick-style stunt, there are millions of windowlicking retards who would parrot that talking point.

 

[CapricornusRex]

I don't think there's collusion (as there are ample reasons to be wary of both letting the Watson contract actually set precedent, instead of being another isolated example of why Jimmy Haslam's a retard, and doing so for a dual threat QB who hasn't finished a full season in 3 years), but the narrative has already been established and, if he wanted to start some stupid Kaepernick-style stunt, there are millions of windowlicking retards who would parrot that talking point.

Just go read the Ravens website comments to see a few of the most retarded who think Lamar is in the right no matter what he does.

 

[Absolutego]

Just go read the Ravens website comments to see a few of the most retarded who think Lamar is in the right no matter what he does.

My favorite is the repeated line of "imagine simping for billionaires over millionaires" whenever people mention reasons to be leery of giving Jackson what he wants.
I'm sorry, nephew, that you are too dim to see the damage a bad fully guaranteed contract could do to a team under a hard salary cap.
Invariably it's coming from Ravens fans who spent the last half of 2022 laughing at the Browns and cheering on every bad play Watson made once he finally came back, too.

 

[CapricornusRex]

My favorite is the repeated line of "imagine simping for billionaires over millionaires" whenever people mention reasons to be leery of giving Jackson what he wants.
I'm sorry, nephew, that you are too dim to see the damage a bad fully guaranteed contract could do to a team under a hard salary cap.
Invariably it's coming from Ravens fans who spent the last half of 2022 laughing at the Browns and cheering on every bad play Watson made once he finally came back, too.

Its like they can't imagine what a nightmare that contract will be. Watson did a restructure this off season to clear up cap space already, and next year his cap hit is either 54 or 64 million dollars. Its laughable how bad that contract is going to destroy that team because they have a lot of good talent that they aren't going to be able to pay here soon. If Lamar had anyone behind him with his best interests in mind, they would have pointed at Russell Wilson's contract and said, "Ask for that plus 5 million." and he would be set for the rest of his life.

 

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My favorite is the repeated line of "imagine simping for billionaires over millionaires" whenever people mention reasons to be leery of giving Jackson what he wants.

I have no idea why greedy billionaire owners suddenly became the narrative. Baltimore has been trying to negotiate with him.

I don't think Lamar understands that if he gets a huge guaranteed contract then he's gonna fuck over the team. Baltimore is having trouble building around him to go on a deep playoff run they don't need him eating up 20% of the cap on his own.

 

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I have no idea why greedy billionaire owners suddenly became the narrative. Baltimore has been trying to negotiate with him.

The cap isn't coming directly from owners' pockets and I think NFL teams have to spend most of their cap every year anyway. Its a retarded argument but Lamar's supporters aren't sending their best.

 

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We seem to be rapidly heading into "greedy billionaire NFL owners don't want to pay a black man what he's worth" on social media.

Top 5 QB contracts in the league: Mahomes, Allen, Russ, Kyler, Watson.

Burrow will probably be up there when he gets an extension, but like, still...this isn't exactly the demographics of a Klan meeting.

 

[Local Fed]

We seem to be rapidly heading into "greedy billionaire NFL owners don't want to pay a black man what he's worth" on social media.

We've been there for awhile now. Around a month ago I was seeing RG3 make tweets not so subtly that implying this, but that's not particularly shocking from him.

I can't remember who it was, but someone made a Twitter thread regarding which of the following (Lamar, Burrow, Herbert, Lawrence and someone else who I can't recall) people would give the biggest contract extension to and pretty much every reply choosing Lamar as the top choice was using arguments like "The one who has won an MVP." Forget the other things to consider like play style which is a bigger injury factor, actual injury history and which guy seems to have a lot of empty space between his ears.

If this does end up being some long drawn out thing that permeates the mainstream like Kaepernick did, the one thing that might take some wind out of the sails is for as dumb as Kaepernick is he at least doesn't come off as obviously stupid as Jackson does, and as you mentioned it's pretty easy to point to guys like Watson, Wilson and Mahomes (the face of the league) as guys who didn't exactly have problems getting paid.

 

[Absolutego]

We've been there for awhile now. Around a month ago I was seeing RG3 make tweets not so subtly that implying this, but that's not particularly shocking from him.

I can't remember who it was, but someone made a Twitter thread regarding which of the following (Lamar, Burrow, Herbert, Lawrence and someone else who I can't recall) people would give the biggest contract extension to and pretty much every reply choosing Lamar as the top choice was using arguments like "The one who has won an MVP." Forget the other things to consider like play style which is a bigger injury factor, actual injury history and which guy seems to have a lot of empty space between his ears.

If this does end up being some long drawn out thing that permeates the mainstream like Kaepernick did, the one thing that might take some wind out of the sails is for as dumb as Kaepernick is he at least doesn't come off as obviously stupid as Jackson does, and as you mentioned it's pretty easy to point to guys like Watson, Wilson and Mahomes (the face of the league) as guys who didn't exactly have problems getting paid.

RG3 being such a sour cunt over Lamar Jackson's contract drama is hilarious, given RG3 himself is the poster child for why it's risky to give a 5 year, fully guaranteed contract to someone who plays like Lamar.