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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
BikeLock said:
They probably would have three-peated with Jimmy.
The '90s Cowboys fan inside me has always been sad about that.
Semi-related: Cool stuff from my childhood that I keep on my desk at work.
I actually pulled the Brett Favre myself from a booster box of Fleer Ultra that I got as a Christmas present around... '93 or so? I think I pulled the Sanders from one of the many packs of sportsball cards I used buy loose as a kid instead of MTG Cards, like I should have.

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Damn, those cards are seriously badass! I wish I could remember the Cowboys being really good. But I wasn't alive then / cant remember the 90s
 
Dildo_SHwaggins said:
I never heard about this. Another reason to thank Irsay for firing that retard.

The national media was clowning on the Colts for firing that retard which was surprising because he clearly didn't accomplish anything. He was another slave to the analytics and was a QB whisperer who seemed to bring out the worst in everyone. Now he's the panthers problem.
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Pat's show is genuinely good for information about the Colts as he talks to people at all levels of the organization regularly. Unfortunately it generally doesn't get clipped out because nobody cares about the Colts and I can understand it being a tough watch if you can't stand him. His schtick has begun to grate on me the past year or two, but I think the show is worth watching. He has some great segments and interviews with real NFL insight beyond the normal talking heads, and AJ Hawk is quietly hilarious and the true star of show imo. His crew does ball wash, but they can be pretty funny too and it hasn't gotten too watered down going to ESPN. It's certainly good enough to be background noise if you're the type of person who always has sports talk radio or podcasts on.
 
break these cuffs said:
Pat's show is genuinely good for information about the Colts as he talks to people at all levels of the organization regularly. Unfortunately it generally doesn't get clipped out because nobody cares about the Colts and I can understand it being a tough watch if you can't stand him. His schtick has begun to grate on me the past year or two, but I think the show is worth watching. He has some great segments and interviews with real NFL insight beyond the normal talking heads, and AJ Hawk is quietly hilarious and the true star of show imo. His crew does ball wash, but they can be pretty funny too and it hasn't gotten too watered down going to ESPN. It's certainly good enough to be background noise if you're the type of person who always has sports talk radio or podcasts on.
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I watch some clips here and there but it's not something I can listen to for hours at a time. It doesn't make good background noise.

AJ is great, easily the best person on the show without even trying.
 
Smokingpoop said:
Damn, those cards are seriously badass! I wish I could remember the Cowboys being really good. But I wasn't alive then / cant remember the 90s
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They were fun to watch since they'd just methodically drive down the field and there was literally nothing teams could do. That offense was perfectly suited for their roster.

My team spent the 90s eating paint chips so most of the games were blacked out and I'd end up watching Jerruh's Boys.
 
std::string said:
Uhhh....is Sean Payton okay?
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If I got beat by Hackett after talking shit, I personally wouldn’t be ok.

Jokes aside, pressure might be getting to him. He seemed like he thought he’d come to Denver and immediately turn things around and that wasn’t the reality, which would be bad enough if everyone didn’t hate him and take his failures as an opportunity to shit on him even more.
 
Sean Payton has not fixed Russel Wilson, he's been padding his stats in garbage time. Wilson is still awful and the Broncos are a trainwreck. Sean Payton deserves all the misery coming his way.
 
Dildo_SHwaggins said:
Sean Payton has not fixed Russel Wilson, he's been padding his stats in garbage time. Wilson is still awful and the Broncos are a trainwreck. Sean Payton deserves all the misery coming his way.
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Honestly, even if he DID fix Russ, it doesn’t help the problem that the rest of the team fell to shit.

Payton strikes me as a guy who they brought in to do the rebuild, but didn’t let him actually start the damn rebuild before the season got under way. It got said earlier ITT, after this season expect the Broncos to get a gut job and Sean a chance to build His Team, before Walmart pulls the plug on this entire operation.

Or moves/sells the team. Whichever would be funnier.
 
I'm Jerry Jeudy catching a pass and seeing open field in front of him and then immediately saying nah fuck that and running into a linebacker.

Dude definitely wants off the team.
 
1Tonka_Truck said:
Relegation.
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Would that be relegation to the XFL or up here in Canuckistan to the CFL for maximum lulz?

Hell, could you guys just buy the CFL - last I checked it’s already run by an American, and there wouldn’t be much to change beyond field sizes and us switching from 3 Downs to 4 - so your relegation league isn’t propped up by being The Rock’s Vanity Project?
 
Probably a little late to the party, but I am really starting to like Bill Belichick and strictly because of his press conferences. His absolute hatred for the journalists in front of him kinda makes me like him
 
DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
Probably a little late to the party, but I am really starting to like Bill Belichick and strictly because of his press conferences. His absolute hatred for the journalists in front of him kinda makes me like him
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He's been doing this for years. Though recently folks have sort have gotten annoyed with it since he sometimes just says too little when he's been piloting a very apparent sinking ship. I agree it's something I do respect.
 
Sean Payton and Bill Belichick have something in common: They both went to shit after their Hall of Fame QB's left and retired.

At least Andy Reed had some success before he lucked into Patrick Mahomes, something that you can't really say for Sean Payton or Bill as a head coach (he won rings with the Giants as a Defensive Coordinator after all).

Does good talent and a keen eye for such actually make a head coach, or is it their coaching methods that takes advantage of that talent allowing it to carry the team?

It's something to consider I suppose. At least in the NBA Phil Jackson's record is impeccable, the only guy to three-peat three times, with two different teams. You can argue that he had three of the greatest NBA players of all time across those three teams (Jordan, Shaq, and Kobe), but none of those guys got their multiple rings without Phil.

Due to Belichick being absolute ass without Brady, his legacy is going to be in question until he has some success without him. Keep in mind that the first year Brady left the Pats he put together a super team in the Bucs headed by a Yes-man and won a title, as the Patriots had to watch the Playoffs at home from their couch.

Sean Payton never had a chance for his "legacy" to get tarnished yet, as he pretty much bailed on the Saints as soon as it was apparent that life after Brees would be a colossal shit show, so he took the bag to be a shitty commentator until the Broncos came pleading to him with an even larger bag of money to un fuck their standard fuck party staring a washed Russel Wilson. Payton probably figured it would be a good deal as Russ on paper is a HoF talent QB, so all he would need to do is "fix" him and then he'll have instant success.

Well, he forgot how absolutely fucked the Broncos are going to be drafting for the next few years due to that Russ trade, and put way too much faith in Russ's talent to carry the team, oops.
 
Payton's playcalling is super fucking weird for Russ and it doesn't help that his WR1 forgets he's playing football.

Watching the all-22 of that game and well it's a complete dumpster fire.
 
BikeLock said:
Sean Payton and Bill Belichick have something in common: They both went to shit after their Hall of Fame QB's left and retired.

Due to Belichick being absolute ass without Brady, his legacy is going to be in question until he has some success without him. Keep in mind that the first year Brady left the Pats he put together a super team in the Bucs headed by a Yes-man and won a title, as the Patriots had to watch the Playoffs at home from their couch.
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Belichick's legacy without Brady is skewed and doesn't paint the full picture just by looking at wins and losses. His time with the Browns has to be viewed with an asterisk since Art Modell was in debt and desperately trying to get the team out of Cleveland. In the 1994 season, the Browns made the playoffs with an 11-5 record and won a playoff game. They were Superbowl favorites heading into the 1995 season. Art Modell was sabotaging the team behind the scenes because he was running out of money since he was a shitty owner. Modell was blocking potential moves by Belichek to save money which hurt the team. Then during the 1995 season, Modell announces the move and everything falls apart. Belicheck is fired and his time with the Browns is seen as a failure on him when it is really another failure in a long list of failures of Art Modell. Modell was really one of the worst owners in league history that people do not talk about enough.

Belicheck's record from 2001 - 2019 without Brady is 16 - 6. When the team was in their dynasty and good, they could easily win without Brady as they had the right pieces in place. They should've made the playoffs when they missed Brady for a year but somehow missed the playoffs at 11-5 which is unheard of in the current playoff format. His defenses were consistently one of the best in the league every year in their dynasty run which certainly makes your QB look better when they don't have to score alot to win games. Even during 2019, Brady was ass and led the 16th ranked offense. They were able to make the playoffs because they had the best defense and a top special teams unit. The next year, they had a similar 16th ranked offense, but they missed the playoffs because their defense fell from 1 to the middle of the pack (they had alot of defensive players opt out due to covid). Even in 21, and 22, they were able to be competitive and make the playoffs. They would've made the playoffs last year is Jacobi Meyers didn't commit one of the worst laterals in NFL history. This year is really the first time in 24 years that the Patriots aren't good, which is really impressive.

To say Belicheck's legacy is tarnished because Brady was able to win the with the super team who were looking for a QB not to throw 30 ints is absurd. You don't have the kind of success the Patriots had without one of the best coaches in NFL history. Brady was lucky to play on a stacked team pretty much his whole career. He's even luckier to have that stacked team coached by one of the greatest coaches to ever do it. We've seen so many talented teams over the years fail to win because they were coached by retards. We don't see coaches luck into 6 championships and 9 championship appearances.
 
So, speaking of Payton being kinda a shit coach for the Broncos - mind you that whole team is in the shitter, so it isn’t completely fair to blame him - I vaguely remember how last season there were calls from a very minor but very vocal part of the 49ers Fanbase to fire Shanahan, and the replacement they kept bringing up was Sean Payton. The argument was something about Shanahan constantly choking and wasting a playoff window.

Which begs the question, the fuck would Payton do in San Fran? Shanahan has built an offence that any halfway decent QB can make a killing in - which makes Trey Lance being an objective failure there even more hilarious - , his problem was last year he was on his like, 5th string QB. His job might’ve been saved by Brock Purdy going from “Mr Irrelevant” to “Undefeated in games where his arm doesn’t explode” and being what appears to be a perfect fit for San Frans scheme. Seriously did Belichick manage to clone Brady when no one was looking…

But yeah, I can’t really picture the 49ers working under a different coach, especially not after Payton’s disastrous start in Denver.
 
DSP's Tax Lawyer said:
Probably a little late to the party, but I am really starting to like Bill Belichick and strictly because of his press conferences. His absolute hatred for the journalists in front of him kinda makes me like him
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Bill doesn't hate journalists. He hates stupid questions. If you ask him an intelligent question about something that happened in the game, he's happy to talk your ear off. I've seen him give 5-minute long answers to a seemingly simple question just because it wasn't some moronic fucking "how do you feel about" crap.

Ask him about any particular play and what he had in mind pre- and post-, and he's your best friend in the world. Ask him about stupid shit, and get the verbal equivalent of a shiv in the guts.
 
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