The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

[Squanto Airi]

I meant Deflategate. What other sport are you going to get the best player's text messages leaked? Arguements over gas laws? The US Court System getting involved? Truly 10/10 storyline, Mahomes will never come close.

Deflate-gate? You mean the Colts bitching about balls being slightly underinflated due to the cold? After getting blown out?

I hated the Pats at that time and even then it just seemed like the Colts were whining.

 

[BikeLock]

Deflate-gate? You mean the Colts bitching about balls being slightly underinflated due to the cold? After getting blown out?

I hated the Pats at that time and even then it just seemed like the Colts were whining.

My favorite part about that is that they fixed the balls at half-time, and blew them out even harder.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

I think part of it is that the Pats and their fans embraced being the villains, they knew everyone outside of Massachusetts resented their success and thrived off of it. What's so offputting about the Chiefs dynasty is this weird mix of entitlement and persecution, that their fanbase has.

Like even @Meat Target kind of exemplified what I was talking about a few pages back lol. Uwu we're just a smol bean market franchise, pwease be nice to us on our way to our 5th championship in 6 years. Fuck off. No Pats fan would be whining during their franchise's heyday about being hated, if anything that was part of the thrill for them.

Hell, Philly are the underdogs and even I get some people hating us, our fans are obnoxious assholes, I'm not gonna cry because not everyone likes us. No one likes us, we don't care.

As a fan of both the Bucs and Dolphins, just winning a playoff game is the Super Bowl to us. We're probably one of the more chilled fanbases in the NFL imo.

 

[Americunt]

The Philly Fan who bullied that Packers retard in the nose bleeds did nothing wrong, and I'm tired of pretending that he did.

You don't wear Red around Cripps, and you don't wear opposing team's gear to a Philly sports venue. I don't write the rules, the obnoxious Philly fans enforce them, therefore, if I were to be a "guest" at any one of their fine venues, I would keep the shit talk to a minimum if I was in any gear but fellow NFC East rivals, because fuck the Eagles, in general.

I mean, I'm probably still gonna root for them over KC, and part of me hopes the Eagles fans make it rain beer bottles/D-batteries when the ref fuckery starts.

I mean that guy was being an asshole, I'm not gonna give him a total pass. But yah, if you sit in the nosebleeds at any stadium in the away team's colors, but in the Linc for a Wild Card game specifically, expect to get bitched on by the most loyal, lowest class drunks. Also, maybe don't let some drunk old geezer chirp at your girl while you whip out the camera so you can cancel him on Twitter later.

"B-but if he stepped in to defend his girlfriend 20 other Eagles Fans would have jumped him!" Excuses, excuses, sounds like she's gonna be an ex-girlfriend if your idea of defending her honor is getting the twitter mob to get the guy who yelled at her fired a few days later instead of just sticking up for her in the moment like a man. Strongest Green Bay fan vs weakest Philly boozer, No Pack No, Go

 

[Meat Target]

As a fan of both the Bucs and Dolphins, just winning a playoff game is the Super Bowl to us. We're probably one of the more chilled fanbases in the NFL imo.

Aren't you the ones who pop champagne every time another team blows a perfect season?

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Aren't you the ones who pop champagne every time another time blows a perfect season?

The only thing that keeps us going is the legendary 1972 season.

 

[BikeLock]

Aren't you the ones who pop champagne every time another time blows a perfect season?

I don't know what kind of curse they pulled, but Eli Manning ruining Tom Brady's perfect season was the most hilarious blown perfect season ever.
It was literally the best season any team has had ever... until the Giants fucked everything up for them.

I hope Eli holds that over Peyton and makes him seethe, lmao.

"Yeah, bro, he beat your ass on the reg to go the the Super Bowl, and I snatched away his RING for a PERFECT SEASON!"

 

[Americunt]

I don't know what kind of curse they pulled, but Eli Manning ruining Tom Brady's perfect season was the most hilarious blown perfect season ever.
It was literally the best season any team has had ever... until the Giants fucked everything up for them.

I hope Eli holds that over Peyton and makes him seethe, lmao.

"Yeah, bro, he beat your ass on the reg to go the the Super Bowl, and I snatched away his RING for a PERFECT SEASON!"

It's gotta keep Brady up at night that his only 3 SB losses are to the lesser Manning, and a career journeyman like Foles.

 

[Mister Ferro]

I made a boomer meme:

 

[AllieKat]

I hope someone in Philly hits Brittany Mahomes with a D Battery to the head.

I'm so tired of their perceived persecution complex.

 

[break these cuffs]

I hope someone in Philly hits Brittany Mahomes with a D Battery to the head.

I'm so tired of their perceived persecution complex.

I hope Kareem Hunt KOs Britney Mahomes when they lose.

 

[nigel p poppycock]

I remember when the Super Bowl was an event, the commercials were great, and the NFL was fun to watch. We used to have a Super Bowl party every year and now I can't remember the last time we even had chips and dip during the game. Now it's boring and I can't put my finger on why exactly, other than possibly gambling influencing the games and this:

This is something that's been pissing me off lately. I heard several teams' coaching staffs upstairs have started using AI to make these decisions and it's absolute fucking disaster. I don't know who fucking is responsible for this but coming the off season, either it needs to be improved or they need to be fired. The AI has no concept of the clock and the possibility they can miss the 2 point conversion is completely lost on them for some reason. All they do is tunnel vision on on the 4 & 5 point differences. It's been absolutely infuriating. You don't chase points when you have an entire fucking half of football left to play.

AI has a way of sucking the life and fun out of everything, so if this is true (wouldn't doubt it) then that could be part of why the league is so blah. It's not a very scientific or even logical opinion, but it's mine.

I don't have a problem with Mahomes other than the State Farm commercials and the obvious refereeing bias. I used to like the Chiefs until Tater Swift showed up and the Kelce bros got over exposed. I'm so apathetic about a sport and league I used to love so much as a casual watcher--I don't get into stats or technical stuff, I just want to enjoy myself--it's a real downer. I do hope Saquon gets his ring but I doubt I'll even watch.

 

[jray4559]

I remember when the Super Bowl was an event, the commercials were great, and the NFL was fun to watch. We used to have a Super Bowl party every year and now I can't remember the last time we even had chips and dip during the game. Now it's boring and I can't put my finger on why exactly, other than possibly gambling influencing the games and-

I would think it's the same kind of problem that's strangling the NBA right now: all teams are more and more becoming the same in terms of playstyle and overall vibe. There's not really any "grind it out" teams anymore. Everyone is trying to ape Mahomes, and players that would otherwise give teams a distinct identity (like Saquon Barkley) are now also stacking up on eight or so squads to try and get rings. The ones that aren't trying to wear the Chiefs in a skinsuit are often times just straight up ass because of shitty owners that'll never get fired. No one wants to root for an ass team.

Also consider that the players themselves are getting a bit less polarizing nowadays. The "Legion of Boom" the Seahawks had worked because 1, they were fucking unreal at their positions, and two, they didn't take shit from nobody. Didn't try to deliberately market themselves as friendly. Now most players are doing that, again the NBA has the exact same problem.

The second is that people are complaining more and more about the refs every single time they miss a call to the point where the default thought is that the refs are gonna make the game dogshit. That just straight up takes the joy out of every game regardless of what it is or who's playing. I'll be happy when at least there is someone other than the fucking Chiefs having a chance at a ring. Buffalo needs to get one eventually or the whole city might die out of depression. Lose 4 superbowls and then lose 4 more chances to get one because of course the instant Tom Brady finally starts to lose his grip the Mahomes monster comes in and rules the roost for another decade and a half it seems like. Get some more new blood in the race, you can never have enough.

 

[Trombonista]

I created a new poll. Team State Farm = just watching for the commercials:

 

[break these cuffs]

The second is that people are complaining more and more about the refs every single time they miss a call to the point where the default thought is that the refs are gonna make the game dogshit.

The NFL chose this by going full on with gambling. They wanted the quickest and simplest way to grow the sport. Letting people put money on it attracted more eyes and gets people more invested. Now the issue of having dentists and retired lawyers who want to see themselves on TV officiating games is rearing it's ugly head. Part time refs became too much of an issue for fans to ignore when everyone started getting high def TVs at home and every fan could see how fucked up a call was. For decades nobody had any idea except the crowd watching the jumbotron, now it's on display to tens of millions every week.

They've been terrible at dealing with officiating. The PI review was a great example of something that was necessary that people were calling for, it got implemented poorly, and everyone hated it. The conspiracy minded among fans think they implemented it poorly to make people hate it. Everyone talking about GPS in the balls after the Bills game must not remember when they tested it in this preseason and it went over like a wet fart because it took 45 minutes to determine the spot. They've have GPS tracking chips in the balls for a decade at this point. They have the resources to make it work. The fucking XFL was doing live replay assist with a guy using an xbox controller and they weren't afraid to have the mic air on the broadcast.

The NFL doesn't change because it doesn't want to. Players have been talking about grass vs turf forever. There are even notorious turd fields you feel lucky if you don't lose a player on. Over the past few seasons it has gained momentum and the NFL narrative was that there was no data to support injured vs non-injured. They just started running a study and the preliminary data shows that oh shit, turf is worse. They're also willing to put in grass for soccer players, but not their own players. How fucking stupid is it to not want to protect your $200M worth of players on your home field and demand that all the other owners do the same? It wasn't that long ago that franchises like Cinci were feeding their players fucking hotdogs and nachos for lunch and making them pay for it.

The NFL is a business run by egotistical old men, many of whom are cheap, who don't like change and don't like being told what to do. They could be proactive. They could innovate. They choose not to.

 

[Trombonista]

I don't know what kind of curse they pulled, but Eli Manning ruining Tom Brady's perfect season was the most hilarious blown perfect season ever.
It was literally the best season any team has had ever... until the Giants fucked everything up for them.

I hope Eli holds that over Peyton and makes him seethe, lmao.

"Yeah, bro, he beat your ass on the reg to go the the Super Bowl, and I snatched away his RING for a PERFECT SEASON!"

That reminds me of this comic I found on pixiv.

Spoiler: Translation

Panel 1: Eli: I want to be as good a QB as my brother!
Text around Peyton: Greatest QB in NFL History Peyton Manning
4-time League MVP
11 Pro Bowl appearances
1-time Super Bowl MVP
Panel 2: 2008 New York Giants Win! Eli Manning Super Bowl MVP
Eli: I did it, Peyton!
Peyton: Good job, Eli!
Panel 3: 2012 New York Giants Win! Eli Manning Super Bowl MVP (2nd time)
Eli: Huh? Does this mean I've surpassed Peyton?
Panel 4: Peyton: How could you lose twice to a QB like him? You always beat me...
Tom: That's what I'd like to know...

 

[Americunt]

That reminds me of this comic I found on pixiv.
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Spoiler: Translation

Panel 1: Eli: I want to be as good a QB as my brother!
Text around Peyton: Greatest QB in NFL History Peyton Manning
4-time League MVP
11 Pro Bowl appearances
1-time Super Bowl MVP
Panel 2: 2008 New York Giants Win! Eli Manning Super Bowl MVP
Eli: I did it, Peyton!
Peyton: Good job, Eli!
Panel 3: 2012 New York Giants Win! Eli Manning Super Bowl MVP (2nd time)
Eli: Huh? Does this mean I've surpassed Peyton?
Panel 4: Peyton: How could you lose twice to a QB like him? You always beat me...
Tom: That's what I'd like to know...

I know demographically it's pretty much impossible for the Japs to produce NFL level guys at any position, and unlike Baseball there isn't a built in cultural appreciation for the sport, but I wish there was. I don't really watch the MLB or NBA, and I'm kind of jealous those sports are so universal that you can have teams vying for international talent from all over the world. I guess the closest is Aussie AFL and rugby guys like Dickson and Mailata as punters and lineman, doesn't hit the same as athletic freaks like Ohtani or Wembanyama coming in and blowing up their respective games though.

 

[Winsome Whimsical Waif]

Has anyone else seen this website called EndRacismKC (Archive) that recently popped up? It treads over very common ground at this point but I thought it worth mentioning due to the chiefs making it to the Superbowl (and for posterity's sake). It's apparently spearheaded by a group called 'Not In Our Honor' (Archive).

I'll attach some of the photos and text from the websites below for those who are curious.

Spoiler: EndRacismKC Homepage

Racist mascots

No justification. ​

We are demanding:

1. Cease the use of racialized Native American branding by eliminating all imagery of or evocative of Native American culture, traditions, and spirituality from their team franchise by changing the name including the logo. This includes the use of Native terms, drum, arrows, or monikers that assume the presence of Native American culture.
2. Apply the NFL’s “zero tolerance” for on-field use of racial and homophobic slurs to all races and ethnic groups, especially Native Peoples.

The use of American Indian mascots as symbols in schools and university athletic programs is particularly troubling because schools are places of learning. These mascots are teaching stereotypical, misleading and too often, insulting images of American Indians. These negative lessons are not just affecting American Indian students; they are sending the wrong message to all students.

Not in our Honor Coalition

Statement to Kansas City Football Team​

Not in Our Honor is a coalition of local Native American leaders and American Indian organizations in the Kansas City metropolitan area who have been speaking out against the use of Native American stereotypes and misappropriation of Native American culture for many years.

The decision of the Kansas City football team to prohibit fans from wearing “headdresses and face paint styled in a way that references or appropriates American Indian cultures and traditions,” this season is a step in the right direction. While it may address the more blatant racist behaviors in the stadium, it does not address the overall racism and appropriation of Native culture inherent with utilizing a race of People as a mascot. It is also a disservice to the fans. While misguided at best, the fans are trying to support their team.

By identifying some behaviors as too “offensive” while reserving some behaviors (tomahawk chop) for review, the team not only robs fans of the full fan experience, they have made the determination that some racism is okay, but blatant racism is not. This is directly in opposition to the recent statements made by the NFL, team owners, management, and players about social justice.

There is no honor in imagery of "The Chief"
Additionally, banning these behaviors is unlikely to stop devout fans from continuing to don headdresses and face paint in the parking lot, nor will it prevent the opposing team from racist behavior. The opposing team will still use the same offensive signs and verbiage they have used for many years, such as, “send them back to the reservation,” “scalp them,” and “Trail of Tears.”


Some racism is OK? The hypocrisy of KC leadership and the "tomahawk chop"

The Kansas City’s team name was chosen in 1963 to honor a mayor nicknamed “The Chief” due to his founding of an imaginary Boy Scout Indian tribe. This occurred before the Civil Rights movement and before the American Indian Civil Rights movement in the 1970s. For decades, hundreds of tribes, national Indian organizations, and professional organizations have spoken out on this matter. In 2005, the APA called for the immediate retirement of all American Indian mascots, symbols, images and personalities by schools, colleges, universities, athletic teams and organizations, stating:

Research has shown that the continued use of American Indian mascots, symbols, images and personalities has a negative effect on not only American Indian students but all students...

The attempt to justify the maintenance of racist mascots because a very small number of Native Americans accept it, when a majority of us vehemently oppose them is shocking. A recent study found the more connected the individual Native is with their culture (language, traditions, ceremonies), the stronger their opposition.

Lastly, with the NFL also stating they will be stenciling in “End Racism” and “It Takes All of Us” in the endzones, we call on the Kansas City team to:

1. Cease the use of racialized Native American branding by eliminating all imagery of or evocative of Native American culture, traditions, and spirituality from their team franchise by changing the name including the logo. This includes the use of Native terms, drum, arrows, or monikers that assume the presence of Native American culture.
2. Apply the NFL’s “zero tolerance” for on-field use of racial and homophobic slurs to all races and ethnic groups, especially Native Peoples.

Spoiler: Not In Our Honor Homepage

Not In Our Honor-dedicated to stopping cultural appropriation of Native American people​

As seen on TMZ! and USA Today



Press Release on KC Football Native American Heritage Month Honoring 2024



Sign Our Petition
It is time to #ChangeTheName and get rid of the Native Cultural Appropriation KC Football Team Read —->The Super Bowl’s Kansas City Chiefs Are a Cruel Insult to Native Americans

#ChangeTheName​

Recent News Posts​

Debate About the Chiefs’ name, and it’s ties to Native Americans, Rages On and Here is Why

More News

Letters in Support of Not In Our Honor​

I understand that my requests may seem to be daunting, but as our nation works to address systemic racism, it is imperative that Kansas City’s NFL franchise is on the right side of history.

Read More Letters

I don't use social media so I'm sure what the general reaction to this specific campaign has been so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to do something big either right before or during the game itself, like a stunt or faux Superbowl ad. If they somehow snuck it in to the actual broadcast my sides would never recover but that obviously would never happen in a zillion years. The articles state that the coalition is trying to vie for Taylor Swift's attention but I don't believe there are enough in existence to represent how much of a longshot that is.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Has anyone else seen this website called EndRacismKC (Archive) that recently popped up? It treads over very common ground at this point but I thought it worth mentioning due to the chiefs making it to the Superbowl (and for posterity's sake). It's apparently spearheaded by a group called 'Not In Our Honor' (Archive).

I'll attach some of the photos and text from the websites below for those who are curious.

Spoiler: EndRacismKC Homepage

Racist mascots

No justification. ​

We are demanding:

1. Cease the use of racialized Native American branding by eliminating all imagery of or evocative of Native American culture, traditions, and spirituality from their team franchise by changing the name including the logo. This includes the use of Native terms, drum, arrows, or monikers that assume the presence of Native American culture.
2. Apply the NFL’s “zero tolerance” for on-field use of racial and homophobic slurs to all races and ethnic groups, especially Native Peoples.

Not in our Honor Coalition

Statement to Kansas City Football Team​

Not in Our Honor is a coalition of local Native American leaders and American Indian organizations in the Kansas City metropolitan area who have been speaking out against the use of Native American stereotypes and misappropriation of Native American culture for many years.

The decision of the Kansas City football team to prohibit fans from wearing “headdresses and face paint styled in a way that references or appropriates American Indian cultures and traditions,” this season is a step in the right direction. While it may address the more blatant racist behaviors in the stadium, it does not address the overall racism and appropriation of Native culture inherent with utilizing a race of People as a mascot. It is also a disservice to the fans. While misguided at best, the fans are trying to support their team.

By identifying some behaviors as too “offensive” while reserving some behaviors (tomahawk chop) for review, the team not only robs fans of the full fan experience, they have made the determination that some racism is okay, but blatant racism is not. This is directly in opposition to the recent statements made by the NFL, team owners, management, and players about social justice.

There is no honor in imagery of "The Chief"
Additionally, banning these behaviors is unlikely to stop devout fans from continuing to don headdresses and face paint in the parking lot, nor will it prevent the opposing team from racist behavior. The opposing team will still use the same offensive signs and verbiage they have used for many years, such as, “send them back to the reservation,” “scalp them,” and “Trail of Tears.”


Some racism is OK? The hypocrisy of KC leadership and the "tomahawk chop"

The Kansas City’s team name was chosen in 1963 to honor a mayor nicknamed “The Chief” due to his founding of an imaginary Boy Scout Indian tribe. This occurred before the Civil Rights movement and before the American Indian Civil Rights movement in the 1970s. For decades, hundreds of tribes, national Indian organizations, and professional organizations have spoken out on this matter. In 2005, the APA called for the immediate retirement of all American Indian mascots, symbols, images and personalities by schools, colleges, universities, athletic teams and organizations, stating:


The attempt to justify the maintenance of racist mascots because a very small number of Native Americans accept it, when a majority of us vehemently oppose them is shocking. A recent study found the more connected the individual Native is with their culture (language, traditions, ceremonies), the stronger their opposition.

Lastly, with the NFL also stating they will be stenciling in “End Racism” and “It Takes All of Us” in the endzones, we call on the Kansas City team to:

1. Cease the use of racialized Native American branding by eliminating all imagery of or evocative of Native American culture, traditions, and spirituality from their team franchise by changing the name including the logo. This includes the use of Native terms, drum, arrows, or monikers that assume the presence of Native American culture.
2. Apply the NFL’s “zero tolerance” for on-field use of racial and homophobic slurs to all races and ethnic groups, especially Native Peoples.

Spoiler: Not In Our Honor Homepage

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Interesting how naming specific tribes is racist, yet putting all injuns in a homogenous group under a specified name is not

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

I know demographically it's pretty much impossible for the Japs to produce NFL level guys at any position, and unlike Baseball there isn't a built in cultural appreciation for the sport, but I wish there was. I don't really watch the MLB or NBA, and I'm kind of jealous those sports are so universal that you can have teams vying for international talent from all over the world. I guess the closest is Aussie AFL and rugby guys like Dickson and Mailata as punters and lineman, doesn't hit the same as athletic freaks like Ohtani or Wembanyama coming in and blowing up their respective games though.

The beautiful dream of Eyeshield 21.