The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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I went to sleep halfway through the fourth quarter, thinking the Ravens had the win sealed.

Woke up early in the morning and couldn't believe my eyes when I checked the score on ESPN. What the fuck?
Welp, time to laugh at John Harbaugh again. Someone else on Twitter described him perfectly: He's the Doc Rivers of the NFL. One ring early on with an incredibly stacked team, and then destroys his entire legacy in the following decade and a half by repeatedly choking time and time again.

Can't believe the Ravens still haven't fired him yet even with his many collapses, but then again, Harbaugh never fails to disappoint by making all of us laugh at his fuck-ups. Who the fuck even punts the ball late in the fourth quarter when the Bills are mounting their comeback?
The Ravens are the ultimate choke-job team. Every single year with Lamar they have found a new way to completely prolapse whether it be terrible coaching decisions or any player fucking up, and it's nothing but absolute entertainment.
 
CapricornusRex said:
Fuckin Lamar wasn't the one who fumbled the game away. He got the first down, all Henry had to do was hold on to the ball.
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Henry had already clowned the honkeys on the field a few times so went showy with another big stiff arm for the replay and cost them the game.

That's a fine ass tank-sized turbo sprint negro the Ravens got there but holy shit two hands on the ball in traffic dude.
 
Hunter Hearst Helmsley said:
I think at least for now we still have a pretty decent amount of balance but it's definitely trending towards more running and more simplicity.
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One thing I think people are ignoring is that NFL offenses aren't changing in a vacuum. I don't watch or care about college football and I'm not talking about those changes. NFL defenses have been evolving. It was just last season that "2 high safety shell" became a buzz-phrase talking heads were bandying about when discussing the decline in passing touchdowns over the 2020s.

DCs have been trending to giving the same look or digsuised pre-snap looks when different with rotating safeties, sim pressures, rushers dropping into coverage, split field coverages, etc. One of the reasons QBs are making less decisions pre-snap are because there are less decisions to be made. More and more they need to snap the ball to know what they're working with.

Another evolution on defense has been the trend to smaller/lighter players at LB and in the secondary to combat the the spread and high flying offenses. How many 225 middle linebackers or 200lb safeties powerbombed King Henry like Cooper DeJawn last night? But, why was he able to do it? Force the ball to the flat. Rally tacklers to the ball. DeJean wasn't trying to hit Henry in a hole with lineman all around. He had running start in the open field. Don't give up big plays. Make the offense run an 18 play drive and then bow up in the red zone to force a field goal.

It's a copycat league and the success of Henry and Barkley, combined with improvements on pass defense are moving the needle on the run game. Having a mobile quarterback opens up your complete run game and stresses defenses in another way. That's not to say pocket passers can make it in the league today, but college quarterbacks aren't being asked to do it and the league is different from Payton and Brady's hayday.
 
I really don't care all that much about the NFL these days, full-on nigger fatigue having set in, but damn if AR being with the Steelers didn't feel like what Sting should have been when he jumped to the WWF.
 
break these cuffs said:
One thing I think people are ignoring is that NFL offenses aren't changing in a vacuum. I don't watch or care about college football and I'm not talking about those changes. NFL defenses have been evolving. It was just last season that "2 high safety shell" became a buzz-phrase talking heads were bandying about when discussing the decline in passing touchdowns over the 2020s.

DCs have been trending to giving the same look or digsuised pre-snap looks when different with rotating safeties, sim pressures, rushers dropping into coverage, split field coverages, etc. One of the reasons QBs are making less decisions pre-snap are because there are less decisions to be made. More and more they need to snap the ball to know what they're working with.

Another evolution on defense has been the trend to smaller/lighter players at LB and in the secondary to combat the the spread and high flying offenses. How many 225 middle linebackers or 200lb safeties powerbombed King Henry like Cooper DeJawn last night? But, why was he able to do it? Force the ball to the flat. Rally tacklers to the ball. DeJean wasn't trying to hit Henry in a hole with lineman all around. He had running start in the open field. Don't give up big plays. Make the offense run an 18 play drive and then bow up in the red zone to force a field goal.

It's a copycat league and the success of Henry and Barkley, combined with improvements on pass defense are moving the needle on the run game. Having a mobile quarterback opens up your complete run game and stresses defenses in another way. That's not to say pocket passers can make it in the league today, but college quarterbacks aren't being asked to do it and the league is different from Payton and Brady's hayday.
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Oh absolutely. Another aspect is a lot of those "pre-snap decisions" weren't necessarily removed, they just transitioned to happen during the play. The RPO is obviously the easy one, but receivers get a lot of leeway in how the route is ran or even which route to run. I know it's fashionable to hate on Travis Kelce, but that was his magic during his prime. Along with Kermit the Mahomes seemingly able to read Kelce's mind when he decided to just run a completely different route because it was open.

I like to think the sheer number of variables have lessened, but the impact of those remaining variables have increased substantially.
 
I have now seen the wildest prediction for this years Playoffs - Steelers/Colts in the Wildcard.

I honestly hope it happens, solely to watch New York Football Fans mald uncontrollably. The combination of Rodgers Swan Song and Danny Derps Redemption Arc would at least give the talking heads something different to talk about.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
The combination of Rodgers Swan Song and Danny Derps Redemption Arc would at least give the talking heads something different to talk about.
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Yup, finally the Dallas Cowboys will get the airtime they so richly deserve and have been denied for the last 30 years.
 
Incredible game last night, still in disbelief.

My thoughts:

1. Lamar ain't it. Lots have been said about him in the clutch, but to give up on your team on a 4th and 2 because you have "cramps" confirms he is not the secret sauce for that team. Derrick Henry is the real MVP of that team, but also not impossible to beat
2. Allen solidifies why he is the MVP
3. Bills defense is the same shit defense we have seen year after year, especially the secondary. I know they're missing people but they need to figure shit out fast, not making it to the SB with that garbage play. Could have EASILY lost this game
4. Lamar should be suspended for shoving that fan. Yeah the kid shouldn't have hit him but Lamar is a grown man who gets paid millions of dollars to be a professional athlete and he has zero impulse control in that moment?
 
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Squid Diddler said:
Incredible game last night, still in disbelief.

My thoughts:

1. Lamar ain't it. Lots have been said about him in the clutch, but to give up on your team on a 4th and 2 because you have "cramps" confirms he is not the secret sauce for that team. Derrick Henry is the real MVP of that team, but also not impossible to beat
2. Allen solidifies why he is the MVP
3. Bills defense is the same shit defense we have seen year after year, especially the secondary. I know they're missing people but they need to figure shit out fast, not making it to the SB with that garbage play. Could have EASILY lost this game
4. Lamar should be suspended for shoving that fan. Yeah the kid shouldn't have hit him but Lamar is a grown man who gets paid millions of dollars to be a professional athlete and he has zero impulse control in that moment?
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You forgot about the complete disregard Sean McDermott showed for his players' safety and the reckless danger he put his franchise qb in by running the Snow Plow. A legally distinct play from the Tush Push where a player, or players pushes, the quarterback during a qb sneak.

Shame on him.
 
HackerX said:
Oh absolutely. Another aspect is a lot of those "pre-snap decisions" weren't necessarily removed, they just transitioned to happen during the play. The RPO is obviously the easy one, but receivers get a lot of leeway in how the route is ran or even which route to run. I know it's fashionable to hate on Travis Kelce, but that was his magic during his prime. Along with Kermit the Mahomes seemingly able to read Kelce's mind when he decided to just run a completely different route because it was open.
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You see this all the time with high-level college teams these days. If your WRs outclass their DBs then you can just lean on them to make the play. QB reads their key (usually a safety or OLB) while dropping back and tosses it to a specific spot after dropping back for a certain number of steps.

This also confuses a lot of scouts where they'll say a QB throws with anticipation but no they're not really looking at anything but their key. They've extensively drilled where to throw it in practice. They're not looking at the receiver.

McDaniel uses a timing based system. It ripped bad defenses apart before everyone figured it out.
 
That was one of the more kino national anthems we got in a while.

 
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