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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%
  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
In terms of quick turnaround on a mid roster last year, I'd say Vrabel, Johnson are the top candidates.
I'm going to go ahead and put in a homer plug for Mike MacDonald though. Seahawks consistently have depth pieces on defense randomly having player of the week-caliber games like Tyrice Knight or Josh Jobe. Our special teams is probably the best in the league right now. And our WR1 is potentially going to break Megatron's single season receiving record this year. The culture Mike Mac put in started to get buy-in around the middle of last year and it's been off to the races (with some interruption) ever since.
 
In terms of quick turnaround on a mid roster last year, I'd say Vrabel, Johnson are the top candidates.
I'm going to go ahead and put in a homer plug for Mike MacDonald though. Seahawks consistently have depth pieces on defense randomly having player of the week-caliber games like Tyrice Knight or Josh Jobe. Our special teams is probably the best in the league right now. And our WR1 is potentially going to break Megatron's single season receiving record this year. The culture Mike Mac put in started to get buy-in around the middle of last year and it's been off to the races (with some interruption) ever since.
Thry certainly have improved in the last few years.

Unrelated: To imitate something i remember from a video by Utree: Congratulations, New England Patriots! You are the recipient of a free win!
 
In terms of quick turnaround on a mid roster last year, I'd say Vrabel, Johnson are the top candidates.
I choose Vrabel, but I'd have to agree with Johnson as a real contender for COTY. The Bears have been playing some impressive football. They haven't even gotten this many wins since 2018. The last time they even ended the season close to this was 2020 at 8-8. There's something worth looking at going on there with the coaching staff, this is a transformation.
 
I choose Vrabel, but I'd have to agree with Johnson as a real contender for COTY. The Bears have been playing some impressive football. They haven't even gotten this many wins since 2018. The last time they even ended the season close to this was 2020 at 8-8. There's something worth looking at going on there with the coaching staff, this is a transformation.
Oh man, way to curse Chicago bro.
 
I choose Vrabel, but I'd have to agree with Johnson as a real contender for COTY. The Bears have been playing some impressive football. They haven't even gotten this many wins since 2018. The last time they even ended the season close to this was 2020 at 8-8. There's something worth looking at going on there with the coaching staff, this is a transformation.
The bears also lost 10 games in a row last year with the previous coaching staff.
 
I somewhat doubt they run a simulation drill during practice for this type of scenaro
They practice botched snaps where the holder just stands up and takes off while the kicker starts blocking. Basically the same as a fake FG.

No reason to practice this though since it shouldn't happen. In high school it's drilled into your head that if your holder is putting the ball on the ground for you, you need to trust him and go through with the kick. Koo bailed at the last possible moment and just confused the fuck out of everyone.
 
No reason to practice this though since it shouldn't happen.
I imagine the punter's muscle memory kicked in, but it wasn't as helpful since this wasn't a botched snap. I'll argue what the punter did was a heads up play for sure. Yeah, he probably should have just fell on it immediately but I can't fault him for attempting to do what he's supposed to do. The dude thought fast on his feet while shit hit the fan and didn't do all that much worse than the optimal decision.
In high school it's drilled into your head that if your holder is putting the ball on the ground for you, you need to trust him and go through with the kick. Koo bailed at the last possible moment and just confused the fuck out of everyone.
I think Koo's career is done now. Kickers are notorious for being head cases and he committed one of the greatest sins imaginable. Not just for football, but for life in general. That being indecisive.
Sometimes it doesn't bite you in the ass, but other times it turns you into Charlie Brown. The hold did appear slightly wobbly, but why the hell would the thought 'I don't know if I should attempt to kick this ball' ever cross his mind? His confidence is laughably shot and we got to witness the ultimate moment of that in the form of an NFL kicker.

Edit: LOL. His explanation.
Giants kicker Younghoe Koo made one of the strangest plays of this NFL season when he kicked the turf in front of the football, not the ball itself, leaving holder Jamie Gillan with nothing to do but pick up the ball and run, which he did for a 13-yard loss.

Koo said after the game that he saw the ball moving on Gillan’s hold and thought he wasn’t going to be able to get a successful kick off, so he pulled up.

“I was approaching the ball and, cold weather, the ball kind of slipped out at the bottom so it was moving,” Koo said, via the New York Post. “I wasn’t able to kick through the ball. The ball was moving when I was driving to it, so I just pulled up on it.”

Koo said Gillan did the best he could but Koo had already pulled his kick by the time Gillan got the ball down.

“Jamie did a good job of catching it and putting it back,” Koo said, “but, at that point, it was too late.”

The Giants lost 33-15, and it’s not like that one botched field goal made the difference, but it was emblematic of what a bad night it was. The Giants’ special teams, and the team as a whole, have a lot of work to do.
 
I'm disappointed in McCarthy. Playing himself out of the league before Reddit had the chance to find out he shared an Andrew Tate video on his IG when he was in college.

Can't complete a pass, can't even get a good internet circlejerk going, what good were you, really?
McCarthy looked like ass during the Michigan championship bowl game, and its time to stop pretending that it wasn't Jim Harbaugh's coaching (amongst other things, lmao) dragging him across the line.
 
McCarthy looked like ass during the Michigan championship bowl game, and its time to stop pretending that it wasn't Jim Harbaugh's coaching (amongst other things, lmao) dragging him across the line.
I'm pretty sure he was injured for that last little stretch of games, so I'll give him a pass on that.

The only game where he was really forced to sling it was Michigan's loss to TCU and he looked pretty damn raw as a passer there. That should've been a red flag for GMs.
 
Why are Thanksgiving games always boring divisional matches? Nobody wants to watch the Packers or the Ravens or the gay-ass Cowboys take on Wood and the Chiefs (yes it's not division but it might as well be).

Here's another angle.
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Imagine what's running through the punter's head. I somewhat doubt they run a simulation drill during practice for this type of scenaro. He's just running a bootleg and looking for a receiver when there was never gonna be receiver. LOL

When did they stop using the backup QB as a holder? Seems like he would have been useful in this situation.

I also just found out Brett Favre has his own YouTube channel which barely has any views:

 
When did they stop using the backup QB as a holder? Seems like he would have been useful in this situation.
I believe that trended ended after either or shortly after the Tony Romo botch in the playoffs way back when. Romo replaced Drew Bledsoe for whatever reason, but he was still the holder for whatever reason, which ended up biting them in the ass in such a memorable, Dallas Cowboys fashion. My best guess is the the Dallas kicker wasn't comfortable with anyone else holding but Romo, but you'd figure the Cowboys would have gotten the idea 'Hey, maybe we should figure out our holder situation because this Tony Romo guy is kinda good and we're actually doing pretty well this year.' They did not. They did not get the idea.

Back to your point, I have to assume the switch was around that timeframe. Sure, a backup QB serving as the holder gives you a bit more flexibility as far as trick and/or botched snaps, but you also don't want to be put in an unfortunate situation. Where your backup QB is in the fame for whatever reason and the same guy who just led your team on a long drive down the field has to go kneel down, try to catch a long snap, and put on the ground quickly in a specific manner. Even if that's a fairly remote possibility, weird situations arise all the time.
 
Who is the best head coach in the NFL?

It’s not necessarily about having the best record, but which current head coach consistently meets or exceeds expectations with the player talent at his disposal?
An argument could be made for Ben Johnson - rookie head coach and Caleb Williams. Vrabel is a solid pick though. McVay for comeback coach of the year.
Koo just Charlie Browned the everliving fuck out of a kick. Can't wait for the clip!

Edit: Got it
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Fucking G-spots.
Oh come on, a man pulls something legendary like this you honor him with his full name

I present to you YOUNGHOE KOO
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Remember when he was the kicker dujour his rookie season?
 
I believe that trended ended after either or shortly after the Tony Romo botch in the playoffs way back when. Romo replaced Drew Bledsoe for whatever reason, but he was still the holder for whatever reason
the tl;dr is that Romo actually did get replaced by the punter but the punter kept fucking up so got tossed back in there and kept holding even after he became the starting QB

Most of the league had moved on by that point. The punter's practicing with special teams anyway so might as well have them hold. The chance of making anything out of a botched field goal attempt is so small it's not worth worrying about.
 
tbh the official ones are Chinesium now anyway since Fanatics took over. I would expect a knockoff to be exactly the same thing.
Really as someone who wants to buy a throwback bijan jersey
I needed to change the subtitle again. LOL the Jets beat the Falcons.
Thank god I didn't embarrass myself going to that even though section 100 tix were 50 bucks
Koo just Charlie Browned the everliving fuck out of a kick. Can't wait for the clip!

Edit: Got it
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You never stop falconing even when you leave

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Why are Thanksgiving games always boring divisional matches? Nobody wants to watch the Packers or the Ravens or the gay-ass Cowboys take on Wood and the Chiefs (yes it's not division but it might as well be).



When did they stop using the backup QB as a holder? Seems like he would have been useful in this situation.

I also just found out Brett Favre has his own YouTube channel which barely has any views:

I think Tony Romo killed the backup QB being the holder thing. Shameful display!

Brett's just doing some boomer rambling about football with some guy who I assume runs the channel who prompts him. I watched a video awhile back because it was supposed to be about Reggie White and it was very okay. He had a good story about going to a Popeyes with Reggie and people recognizing him but not Reggie. I like me some footbally boomer ramblings, but the other guy is a charisma vacuum and really isn't necessary. Farve with his phone could do better stuff if he just went off the cuff and made some short videos about his time in the NFL and/or his thoughts on the happenings this season.
 
GMFB reminded me of this classic yesterday, dude would have been thrown out and probably arrested if this happened today, it sucks sometimes how times change.

Single greatest catch in NFL history

 
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