The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Browns, whichever's easier)

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Chucky gotta be one of my favorite NFL coaches of all time. What a character. Sports are sorely missing big personalities like his on the sidelines these days. Coaches now walk around like they have nyquil in the Gater Aid buckets. Or you have coaches who have mental breakdowns after getting caught having an affair with a (hopefully) female staff member. Which yeah that's entertaining and all but c'mon, ya know.

The railroading Gruden got was despicable. What he said was completely normal if youve ever been in a sports environment but of course speaking plainly is forbidden in our insane Current Year. I hope he takes the NFL for hundreds of millions next year. I don't even think it's about the money for him. He lives for football and I think he'd rather still be out there.

Bout a week ago Gruden started this year's QB camp w/ barstool, pretty good shit so far IMO. He's got 3 more left, thinking the last one will be Mendoza

Pavia is such an immature dickhead. He's going to get obliterated the first time he tries to dance around the field and someone like Myles Garrett takes his head off.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Pavia is such an immature dickhead. He's going to get obliterated the first time he tries to dance around the field and someone like Myles Garrett takes his head off.

Yeah, but it’s gonna be funny seeing a team take a chance on him with how this QB class might as well read “Mendoza than everyone else”.

He’s definitely not a First Rounder, but with how hyped Gruden looked (granted Gruden always looks hyped when he’s talking Football) you know there’s probably a team that doesn’t have a franchise QB thinking about it.

 

[OJ Simpson]

Pavia is such an immature dickhead. He's going to get obliterated the first time he tries to dance around the field and someone like Myles Garrett takes his head off.

I'm glad I didn't have to break the ice. He's incredibly unlikable.

 

[W00K #17]

Yeah, but it’s gonna be funny seeing a team take a chance on him with how this QB class might as well read “Mendoza than everyone else”.

He’s definitely not a First Rounder, but with how hyped Gruden looked (granted Gruden always looks hyped when he’s talking Football) you know there’s probably a team that doesn’t have a franchise QB thinking about it.

I'm not even that sold on Mendoza being an NFL qb.

 

[Piss Jugman]

I'm glad I didn't have to break the ice. He's incredibly unlikable.

Yeah, no emotional control either, don't see him panning out in the League. 1 lost QB1 battle and he'll be right back to pissing on logos in the training facility and subsequently cut

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Yeah, but it’s gonna be funny seeing a team take a chance on him with how this QB class might as well read “Mendoza than everyone else”.

He is going to end up being a Kyle Trask

 

[Piss Jugman]

Yeah, but it’s gonna be funny seeing a team take a chance on him with how this QB class might as well read “Mendoza than everyone else”.

He’s definitely not a First Rounder, but with how hyped Gruden looked (granted Gruden always looks hyped when he’s talking Football) you know there’s probably a team that doesn’t have a franchise QB thinking about it.

I really don't think any QB is a first rounder outside for Fernando tbh. Some people say Simpson is, but the way I see it, if you wanna spend on Simpson you may as well just wait a few rounds later and pick up Haynes King for cheaper.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I really don't think any QB is a first rounder outside for Fernando tbh. Some people say Simpson is, but the way I see it, if you wanna spend on Simpson you may as well just wait a few rounds later and pick up Haynes King for cheaper.

And I agree, but teams like the Browns, Jets, and Raiders exist, and between at least the three of them I'm not writing off any level of stupidity.

Though I AM dying of laughter if the Raiders fuck up and don't draft Mendoza. Easiest fucking decision they have all weekend...

 

[Absolutego]

I really don't think any QB is a first rounder outside for Fernando tbh. Some people say Simpson is, but the way I see it, if you wanna spend on Simpson you may as well just wait a few rounds later and pick up Haynes King for cheaper.

Don't discount the always-present allure to trade up into the first for a 2nd round guy just to have that 5th year option, or to keep good teams from grabbing him for depth.
AKA the reason why Jaxson Dart went in the first round. Simpson seems ripe for that happening to him.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

I really don't think any QB is a first rounder outside for Fernando tbh. Some people say Simpson is, but the way I see it, if you wanna spend on Simpson you may as well just wait a few rounds later and pick up Haynes King for cheaper.

I'd rather take a flyer on Nussmeier. His career looked very promising before he got injured his senior year.

I'm not even that sold on Mendoza being an NFL qb.

I am. A look of QBs look good in college because they out-athelete the other team. Mendoza was succeeding because he was out-executing the other team which is something a lot easier for NFL coaches to work with.

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

I am. A look of QBs look good in college because they out-athelete the other team. Mendoza was succeeding because he was out-executing the other team which is something a lot easier for NFL coaches to work with.

Yeah, I think he'll be fine. The biggest knock against him is that IU ran RPO all the time, but Mendoza was executing a pro-style offense at Cal without any issues. I don't think he'll be a top 5 QB or anything, more like around Baker's level, but he's not gonna be Cuban Tebow.

 

[TowinKarz]

I am. A look of QBs look good in college because they out-athelete the other team. Mendoza was succeeding because he was out-executing the other team which is something a lot easier for NFL coaches to work with.

The guys who just out-muscle or out-run the competition in college frequently flame out in the pros with the career epitaph : Couldn't adapt to the NFL game, meaning they no longer had an advantage when moved up to a league were EVERYONE is as fast/strong as you and you aren't beating up on guys who will be accountants after their senior year is up.

The "Run at the wall and bust through" approach doesn't work anymore and unless they can take to coaching and learn some flexibility? They're done.

 

[Piss Jugman]

Yeah, I think he'll be fine. The biggest knock against him is that IU ran RPO all the time, but Mendoza was executing a pro-style offense at Cal without any issues. I don't think he'll be a top 5 QB or anything, more like around Baker's level, but he's not gonna be Cuban Tebow.

That's my main concern too, and it'd be a bigger concern to me usually, but he's abt to enter a building with a bright new HC and a veteran who actually wants to mentor his younger counterpart, so he's pretty much walking into the perfect situation for RPO-detox. Not only that, but it's pretty clear that Mendoza is a very smart guy, if Gruden gets him on we're defo gonna see his intellect shine. I think there's gonna be a learning curve inherently, but that's what Kirk is there for, any operational kinks will get worked out by year 2 I think.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Mendoza checks all the "good NFL quarterback" boxes for me. Whether he can be truly great depends on if the Raiders can get their shit together even a little bit.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Pavia is such an immature dickhead. He's going to get obliterated the first time he tries to dance around the field and someone like Myles Garrett takes his head off.

I got a funny idea, so the odds are likely that Diago Pavia goes undrafted, and he has talent despite his horrible attitude, and it reminds me of how Jerry Jones almost drafted Johnny Manziel, so if he goes undrafted, the Dallas Cowboys should sign Diago Pavia to be a backup behind Dak Prescott. What do we have to lose? He's like Johnny Manziel Jr., and if he sucks, he was an undrafted backup, so who cares?

 

[CapricornusRex]

Mendoza checks all the "good NFL quarterback" boxes for me. Whether he can be truly great depends on if the Raiders can get their shit together even a little bit.

Only way he fails is if the Raiders do what Atlanta did and throw their first round QB out there even though they have a competent veteran for their rookie to learn behind.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Only way he fails is if the Raiders do what Atlanta did and throw their first round QB out there even though they have a competent veteran for their rookie to learn behind.

They signed Kirk Cousins to make sure that Mendoza properly develops into Kirk Cousins

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

They signed Kirk Cousins to make sure that Mendoza properly develops into Kirk Cousins

Are we talking “Kirk Cousins the QB” or “Kirk Cousins the Bag Securer”?

I’m just saying, if Mendoza is as good as advertised, Kirko’s agent better give that kid his card.

 

[Absolutego]

They signed Kirk Cousins to make sure that Mendoza properly develops into Kirk Cousins

I mean, Mendoza's style of play is extremely similar to Cousins. His physical upside is higher, more akin to Matt Ryan than Cousins, but him developing into rough equivalency with his future teammate would make for a serviceable career. Let's hope he doesn't develop Kirko's ability to shut off whenever the lights are bright. That and the difficulty of building a phenomenal team around him (due to his top priority of getting that bag) were what kept Cousins from entering the higher echelon of NFL QBs.

 

[Drama Fan]

https://x.com/espn/status/2044867079384310070

I think someone posted about the fraud happening in the names of NFL players like Xavier McKinney. Turns out it was an former Alabama player wearing a wig

Davis and Evins used the identities of three NFL players -- "D.N.," "X.M." and "M.P." -- to apply for the loans. The Guardian, which first reported the story, identified D.N., X.M. and M.P. as Njoku, McKinney and Penix, respectively.
To convince lenders they were the three players, the court documents allege that Davis and Evins created "fabricated personal financial statements, Secretary of State documents, and bank statements for companies purportedly operated by the players." The document, filed March 19 in Atlanta, alleges that Davis and Evins registered companies similar to the names of the players to accomplish this.
Davis would show up "dressed in disguise and impersonated the players" at the loan closings, including using fake driver's licenses to fool the lenders and the notary public, federal prosecutors stated. Davis allegedly wore makeup and a wig to impersonate Njoku during a recorded video conference to close a loan for a $4 million promissory note on Jan. 22, 2024, with lender Aliya Sports Finance and underwriter Sure Sports.
The real D.N., the documents said, never had a Georgia driver's license. The license number Davis provided was for a woman in Savannah, Georgia.
Two months later, according to the court filing, Sure Sports emailed Davis, believing he was McKinney, to sign for a $4.4 million loan at the Ritz-Carlton in New York City on April 1, 2024. Davis and Evins allegedly flew from Atlanta to New York and met with Sure and Aliya representatives by video conference. Davis was later identified in a Florida civil lawsuit as McKinney.
On July 26, 2024, Sure Sports and All-Pro Capital Funding set up a video conference to close a loan with "M.P." at a SpringHill Suites in Buford, Georgia. Davis allegedly showed up impersonating Penix to secure a $3.3 million promissory note from All-Pro Capital, showing up with a "durag-style head covering" and providing a fake Florida license with a photo found online.
In all, the court filing alleges there were at least 13 fake loans for more than $19.8 million. Lenders allegedly wired money to accounts controlled by Davis and Evins for fake companies they set up, and then they transferred the money into companies the two actually owned.
Aliya sued Sure Sports in Florida's 11th Circuit Court in February 2025, alleging negligence, gross negligence, negligent misrepresentation and unjust enrichment, according to court records. That case is still pending.