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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votes: 25 50.0%

  • Team State Farm

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • The Meteor

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
KC made the Baltimore defense look bad. That's a scary offense
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Nah there's a pretty simple explanation.
The Lamar Jackson Ravens are the Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts/Denver Broncos.
Regular season gods who shit themselves in the postseason.
Oh and they have a team who they job to most of the time i.e Patriots/Chiefs to complete the analogy.
 
BR55 said:
Nah there's a pretty simple explanation.
The Lamar Jackson Ravens are the Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts/Denver Broncos.
Regular season gods who shit themselves in the postseason.
Oh and they have a team who they job to most of the time i.e Patriots/Chiefs to complete the analogy.
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If I'm a DC trying to game plan against the Ravens, I'm just telling my defense to always assume Jackson has the ball. When they're doing that read-option shit, just ignore the running back and assume Jackson has it. Yeah, you'll get gashed a few times by the RB when he actually hands it off, but i feel like I'd trade that just so you don't get burned on scrambles or designed QB runs, and you'd be better at defending the pass. HE is the reason they look good, minimize the damage by keying on him all the time and play defense as if handoffs can't hurt you. I'd rather defend his iffy downfield throws than this hairy high-school shit.
 
RockPaper said:
If I'm a DC trying to game plan against the Ravens, I'm just telling my defense to always assume Jackson has the ball. When they're doing that read-option shit, just ignore the running back and assume Jackson has it. Yeah, you'll get gashed a few times by the RB when he actually hands it off, but i feel like I'd trade that just so you don't get burned on scrambles or designed QB runs, and you'd be better at defending the pass. HE is the reason they look good, minimize the damage by keying on him all the time and play defense as if handoffs can't hurt you. I'd rather defend his iffy downfield throws than this hairy high-school shit.
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Its the same thing as the past. Colin Kaepernick had a great season then defense coaches figured out his shit. How many times did Lamar get shut down and slam the ball or ground in frustration? If he can get some free room to run hes great but if the defense is in on his game its pretty hard for him to look amazing.
 
OnlyFacingRear said:
Its the same thing as the past. Colin Kaepernick had a great season then defense coaches figured out his shit. How many times did Lamar get shut down and slam the ball or ground in frustration? If he can get some free room to run hes great but if the defense is in on his game its pretty hard for him to look amazing.
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I'd go back further.
Remember Michael Vick and how his Falcons got crushed by the Eagles time and time again? Or "Super Cam" and the 15-1 Panthers failing miserably against the Broncos?
While I think predictions of a Chiefs dynasty have been predictably overblown I am comfortable in saying that KC will last longer and go farther than Baltimore will.
Unless Jackson can become a truly elite passer the Ravens will be as much of a blip as those 2015 Panthers.
This high school/college stuff John Harbaugh is pushing is nothing more than a gimmick at the NFL level.
Unless he adjusts the Divisional Round and MNF results will become the norm instead of the exception.
 
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BR55 said:
I'd go back further.
Remember Michael Vick and how his Falcons got crushed by the Eagles time and time again? Or "Super Cam" and the 15-1 Panthers failing miserably against the Broncos?
While I think predictions of a Chiefs dynasty have been predictably overblown I am comfortable in saying that KC will last longer and go farther than Baltimore will.
Unless Jackson can become a truly elite passer the Ravens will be as much of a blip as those 2015 Panthers.
This high school/college stuff John Harbaugh is pushing is nothing than a gimmick at the NFL level.
Unless he adjusts the Divisional Round and MNF results will become the norm instead of the exception.
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💯 all of this.

The Chiefs has a pretty shitty week against the Chargers the week before. They corrected it and did what they do.

The Ravens are kind of in a weird spot where Lamar can throw it but he's not that consistent and he'd rather have the glory of keeping the team on his back. Kind of like Cam at the Seahawks game two weeks ago. I'm a HUGE Seahawks fan and seeing Cam at the 1 for the win and he tries to rush it in himself... thank fucking god his ego is huge and he needs that win. I don't think the Hawks D could stop them if they decided to pass it.
 
OnlyFacingRear said:
💯 all of this.

The Chiefs has a pretty shitty week against the Chargers the week before. They corrected it and did what they do.

The Ravens are kind of in a weird spot where Lamar can throw it but he's not that consistent and he'd rather have the glory of keeping the team on his back. Kind of like Cam at the Seahawks game two weeks ago. I'm a HUGE Seahawks fan and seeing Cam at the 1 for the win and he tries to rush it in himself... thank fucking god his ego is huge and he needs that win. I don't think the Hawks D could stop them if they decided to pass it.
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Another thing people have started to notice is that the Ravens can't play from behind to save their lives.
Put them in a hole bigger than a FG or occasionally a TD and they start panicking and looking sloppy and unfocused.
They seem to be an incredibly mentally soft team at the moment.
Their playstyle is college/high school but so is their mental fortitude.
Or as a certain shitposting Yinzer put it "Punch Lamar Jackson in the mouth and the team stalls".
And that's just what the Titans did in January.
 
OnlyFacingRear said:
💯 all of this.

The Chiefs has a pretty shitty week against the Chargers the week before. They corrected it and did what they do.

The Ravens are kind of in a weird spot where Lamar can throw it but he's not that consistent and he'd rather have the glory of keeping the team on his back. Kind of like Cam at the Seahawks game two weeks ago. I'm a HUGE Seahawks fan and seeing Cam at the 1 for the win and he tries to rush it in himself... thank fucking god his ego is huge and he needs that win. I don't think the Hawks D could stop them if they decided to pass it.
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It's not that he isn't consistent it's that the O-line isn't what it was last year. When a DT is the one getting to him it really shows just how important Yanda was. And they're trying to patch the hole. On top of that our Center is coming off a leg injury that ended his season in week.. 14? 15? So he's not playing up to what he was last year before the injury. No preseason games, and practice is nothing like real games to get ready for the season. I expect the line will play better the longer the season goes on, and hopefully once DJ Fluker gets back to get in to the guard rotation because I do not believe he isn't better than a rookie.

I do agree that Lamar's issue is he still thinks he needs to carry the team on his back, it really showed against the Titans last year, a game that was very winnable going in to the second half. But they just kept doing what wasn't working, and abandoned the run game because Ingram was injured. Mark Andrews had a bad ankle so he wasn't what he should have been, and our starting center was on IR. Oh and Earl Thomas ran his mouth before the game, and now every joke about him is he should sign with the Titans to be Derrick Henry's lead blocker. Well deserved.

They do look panicky and unfocused, and it doesn't help that the real coach of the team retired a few years ago (Ray Lewis). I don't think John Harbaugh is a good coach, and if you look at his coaching staff, outside of a few that have been brought in after he started (Kubiak, Roman, Martindale), there's a shitload of ex-Eagles coaches that have come and gone. When the Ravens won their last super bowl they immediately purged the loudest voices because those voices damn near started a mutiny in the middle of the season.

This same talk about Lamar came out after last year when they lost to the Browns and Chiefs back to back. Lamar's skill set is better than Vick and Kaepernick, but I don't know if he's got the coaching staff he needs to win a ring. I don't think Martindale is a good DC, and I wish a team had poached him for a HC job so someone else could come in. Roman's all right, but he and Harbaugh try to be too cute with the play calling and I question whether Lamar will develop beyond what he was last year. He can throw, he is accurate, and he reads the coverage well. But the play calling starts to break down the moment they're a TD or more behind (As has been mentioned). I miss Pagano. He was the last really good DC this team has had, and I would have loved to see what Kubiak could have done with Lamar. I don't trust Harbaugh, I trusted that veteran team that won the last ring because it had Ray, and Ed, and Suggs, and Ngata, and Bolden, and Ray Rice, and an O-Line with 3 pro bowl caliber players.

This coaching staff always makes me mad on the internet, because this team is way too good to lose that badly at home.
 
Jets vs Broncos. I hope you bought a lot of liquor if you're planning on watching this bullshit.

If Brett Rypien somehow manages to out score Sam Darnold I think I might die of laughter.
 
I can't watch the damn cable-only games, but I don't feel too sad about missing that one. I think the Broncos will win since they just might have the homeopathic water-memory of being a good team, but the funniest outcome would be for two oh-and-all teams to come to a tie again. Maybe I'm basic but I find it hilarious.
 
I may be late to this, but I overheard on the NFL radio today, "Movin' the Chains", that the reason there was no bubble was because the NFLPA was against it. They were speculating whether or not that there could be in one in place now because of what's going on
 
CapricornusRex said:
They moved the game to Monday night. So it's a doubleheader.
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Ah, okay, cool. And it looks like it will still be on CBS, so us no-cable poors will get at least one Monday night game this season.

Seattle is predictably having their way with the Dolphins already. They might be improved but they're still not good enough. This game might not even be fun to watch.
 
Goddamn, Justin Herbert with a 53 yard pass. Wasn't expecting that one.
 
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