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Little Caesar's isn't ALL bad. It depends on the location. Sometimes, they DO overcook the pizza or the crust is dry as hell.
That's the thing, they are highly dependent on the location, the time of day it's made, and so forth and so on. I might've mentioned it here somewhere but even as a child I could tell if catered Little Caesars was from the local location or not. But the Hot & Ready screws up their line, you either get old pizza or be prepared to wait a while.
 
I remember absolutely loving Papa John's back in the late 90's/early 2000's, then they removed the store from the area I lived in and I didn't try it again until like 2011 and it fucking sucked. Idk what happened in that timespan, if I'm just misremembering or if it was the same taste but my childhood tastebuds didn't work the same, if they changed the ingredients, regardless... bleh.

As far as Little Caesar's goes I love it. I think it's the best garbage tier pizza chain out there. At least up here where I'm from.
 
So, my adventures in optimizing the reasonably quick pepperoni pizza made at home in a newish convection oven has led to some observations.

1) A bog standard benriner mandolin works fine for pepperoni slicing if you don't buy pre-sliced, just pop that pep in the freezer for a bit before cutting and make sure to find the "stable" side of the mandolin or you'll get wonky slices. You'll know, you'll see it flex more on one side than the other as you cut.

2) Get your mozz & other cheeses you plan to use (except for cheeses you put on last like parm) and buzz em up in a food processor with a standard blade (not the shredder blade counterintuitively) until it's all roughly even sized bits (I shoot for 1/8th inch bits on average), then mix 'em together in a big ziploc, gently get most of the air out, and keep it in the freezer. I'd suggest doing each cheese separately as they might behave differently in the food processor. Keeps for quite a while (longer than incrementally using cheese kept in the fridge) and gets you that "frozen cheese" trick used to keep the cheese from getting too overdone in a standard oven. The standard blade also seems to create shapes which become masses which are easier to break up into small pieces again once it gets frozen, whereas the shredder created much harder to break apart masses after freezing. Not all cheeses may be amenable to this but for mozz and prov it works great.

3) One of those pizza disks from Lloyd that looks a bit like a massive flat salt-shaker top works pretty well if you plop that on one of the racks mid-oven and then put a same size or larger pan below it to catch droppings from the pizza (cover with foil for easy cleanup), assuming you're using the oven in a convection mode. I'm not making massive pizzas so you can kind of fudge past the need for a pizza steel that needs a lot of heat-up which saves some time. Just put the disk in a bit before you want to pizza to start but you don't need to pre-heat it for very long: not much mass so it heats up pretty quick but it also allows the hot air access to the bottom of the pizza.

4) Get a short handled peel it makes everything so much easier.

5) Try the air-fry mode on the oven if it comes with one, even if you preheat in a more standard convection mode. I've been having the best luck going convection roast to get it all to 500 and then swapping to air-fry at 500 to actually cook the pizza. Convection bake or roast the entire time seems to tend towards something getting too done while the rest isn't quite there whereas the air-fry I've been getting pretty decent done-ness. Still not on the level of a specialized oven but it's a hell of a lot better than you'd think if you watch it like a hawk.

6) Play around with the dried veggies and mushrooms from asian markets, if you slice things thin (like matchsticks) they will re-hydrate while cooking if you put them on after sauce but before cheese. So far I've tried mushrooms to good effect, the only thing is you miss the texture, but you sure as hell get the flavor.

7) I've moved away from rolling pin flattening my dough since I can get a much better bake with the improved air-fry switch tech and just stretching the dough into a disk...ish (I'd hestiate to call it tossing though it gets to the same place). Definitely makes for a better pizza and it gets all puffy on the crust like it should. 👍
 
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Pizza Hut and Papa John are pizza that I remember much being better years ago but had them recently and really disappointed.
 
Also to add if you’ve never been to a Fox’s pizza, go to a fox’s pizza
 
I'm a native Michigander so I grew up with it. I prefer Chicago style, though.
I have only had chicago style once or twice. Detroit style was absolutely delicious. Can't eat it much but every once in a blue moon its very satisfying.

You have any suggestions for places that do a half-decent chicago style?
 
Just had Papa John's. They have NO flavor in their crust. It's fine, but damn it is dry.
 
You have any suggestions for places that do a half-decent chicago style?
I've never found anything outside the city of Chicago that I would call good Chicago-style pizza. I'm always on the lookout but have not had any success over the years, I dunno maybe I'm too picky.
 
I never knew Detroit had a style. What’s the angle?
Its a thicker pizza dough with a really nice toasted bottom. Sort've fried in a big steel pan, makes for a moderately chewy and cheesy bread, usually with a spicy sauce to either pour over after or to dip it into. Sometimes a spicy vodka sauce.

Its heavy as hell but its really good. One I had also had some hot honey drizzled over.
 
I remember absolutely loving Papa John's back in the late 90's/early 2000's, then they removed the store from the area I lived in and I didn't try it again until like 2011 and it fucking sucked. Idk what happened in that timespan, if I'm just misremembering or if it was the same taste but my childhood tastebuds didn't work the same, if they changed the ingredients, regardless... bleh.
I had Papa John's recently. It tastes like it's 1998. It's the exact same taste. It's the exact same texture. Everything is exactly the same.

It's possible the cheese is different, but I don't think that determines much for the taste as mozzarella is pretty flavor neutral.

Papa John himself claimed it wasn't the same pizza. I feel like it's the same gas lighting that people give me when they say McDonald's hamburgers used to taste wildly different.
 
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