The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

Animaniacs fans are the frozen limit. I've run into them on YouTube and they're some of the most arrogant, smug cartoon fans I've ever come across. They act like they're part of some intellectual elite core (speaking down to other people commenting on Animaniacs videos) and spend all their time analysing the deep and meaningful social commentary... in a show for fucking elementary schoolers.

Freakazoid was better anyway, true experts know this.

Also why the fuck did they bother with Smithers coming out now? This should've happend at least 10-15 years ago.

27 seasons, fuck me sideways.
 
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What the fuck's the point of Smithers coming out? He's already gayer than Azealia Banks fucking Lady Gaga in the ass with a strapon, and the whole gag was that everyone in town -- aside from Mr. Burns -- already knew that he was gay and in love with the crazy-old Mantis-Creature that runs the town nuclear plant.

Would his life be healthier if he were outside the closet and not in love with a literally and figuratively demented demon? Of course! But you could say similar things about everybody on the show, and the Simpsons shot-callers haven't been creative enough to write new directions for any of the Springfieldians to walk in for decades.

This'll have even less effect on the show than the it-was-all-a-dream episode where Homer leaves Marge for Lena Dunham.
 
I wish the show would die off and stop fucking embarassing itself.
If Fox gave two shits about what the fans wanted, the show would have ended a long time ago.

But alas, as they only care for the money the show rakes in regardless of badness. That ain't gonna happen, at least, not anytime soon.

As for the episode, that it took them this long to get Smithers out of the closet and do it in the stupidest way ever. It's kinda shocking in how incompetent the writers have become. Though at this point, was anyone surprised?
 
Right, Smithers officially came out this week, and what could have been a great episode about Mr. Burns getting over his old fashioned views or something was just an excuse for Hank Azaria to do his fucking stupid gay Latino voice again. George Takei was also horribly wasted.

Because we all know how much everyone FUCKING LOVES Julio.
 
I think it's enough to say the writers of the Simpsons are resentful burnouts, accusing any one of them of pedophilia is a bit much.

I remember reading somewhere that they had already were losing it as early as 1997, resulting in them in trying to go for crazy plots that were harder to write out of, with episodes like "The Principal and the Pauper".


Animaniacs once devoted the centerpiece of an episode to mocking how spergy its fans were. The Please Please Please Get a Life Foundation.

Of course, they'd had to put up with a LOT of shit by that point.

It's one thing to have a shitty arrogant attitude when you're making what was generally considered one of the best animated shows of its time, and entirely another when you're apathetically going through the motions of shoveling shit to make another dull, incestuously derivative mockery of itself in a show that should have died decades ago.

Honestly, the Please Please Please Get a Life Foundation short was brilliant and despite being made in a day of dial-up and BBS is still extremely relevant today.

I don't know what The Simpsons did to mock its fans, but especially a lot of webcomics and web-based media (like TGWTG) treat their fanbase with absolute disdain, and nothing that will be laughed at or remembered years later.
 
I remember reading somewhere that they had already were losing it as early as 1997, resulting in them in trying to go for crazy plots that were harder to write out of, with episodes like "The Principal and the Pauper".

Honestly, the Please Please Please Get a Life Foundation short was brilliant and despite being made in a day of dial-up and BBS is still extremely relevant today.

I don't know what The Simpsons did to mock its fans, but especially a lot of webcomics and web-based media (like TGWTG) treat their fanbase with absolute disdain, and nothing that will be laughed at or remembered years later.
The Poochie episode.

I wish the show would die off and stop fucking embarassing itself.
I'd be happy with an episode cut. Force them to put quality over quantity.
 
The Poochie episode.
True. But that was one of their best episodes ever. You're allowed more leeway to be a self-entitled twat during those times.

I'd be happy with an episode cut. Force them to put quality over quantity.
That worked for South Park because the show's helmed by actual human beings with real creative ambitions rather than soulless corporate automatons or burnt-out old stand-bys who only care about the checks clearing.

Hell, that isn't even fair to Stone and Parker. Their show's never been anywhere near as bad as the last -- What was it, 15 or 20? -- seasons of The Simpsons.
 
True. But that was one of their best episodes ever. You're allowed more leeway to be a self-entitled twat during those times.
Yes, it was still funny but their argument that they don't owe their fans anything made no sense. I also enjoyed Principal and the Pauper but I'm better off pretending it was a non-"canonical" episode.
 
I also enjoyed Principal and the Pauper but I'm better off pretending it was a non-"canonical" episode.
I liked the Principal and the Pauper. I think it was actually quite a clever commentary on the way big character shake-ups on television can be introduced and forgotten in the span of an episode as well as negative audience reactions to them, at least that was the intention. What made it even funnier is I think a lot of people blatantly missed that.

However, it did lead to crapfests like "That 90s Show" where they completely retconned the Simpson family history and didn't even make the episode funny or entertaining to make up for it. That one was so bad even the modern Simpsons writing staff seem to have admitted it was a mistake - they retconned the retcon in later episodes.
 
I liked the Principal and the Pauper. I think it was actually quite a clever commentary on the way big character shake-ups on television can be introduced and forgotten in the span of an episode as well as negative audience reactions to them, at least that was the intention. What made it even funnier is I think a lot of people blatantly missed that.
I'm not quite so optimistic that was the intent. But I did happen to see this exact sort of story executed to perfection in a South Park episode that aired 15 years later called "City Sushi," and that episode was actually a hit with critics and the volk.

Personally, I think a lot of it comes down to South Park's audience and creators sharing a mutual understanding rather than a polyethylene-veiled contempt for oneanother. Not that South Park doesn't have it's own sperglord fans. Stone and Parker just don't act like primadonnas for a spectacular feet of producing one or two worthwhile episodes for every ten or twenty servings of horrible garbage that should've died in the pitch.

However, it did lead to crapfests like "That 90s Show" where they completely retconned the Simpson family history and didn't even make the episode funny or entertaining to make up for it. That one was so bad even the modern Simpsons writing staff seem to have admitted it was a mistake - they retconned the retcon in later episodes.
The Simpsons would be a much better show if they kept consistent with a timely/timeless approach like half the cartoons and comics ever made.

Danny Antonucci never bothered explaining why Eddy had a 70s-style vinyl collection, why Ed had a collection of pre-code horror comics, why Double-D was the one kid in town with access to post-Reagan technology, or why Rolf acted like a pesant so backwards he didn't even realize his country was taken over by communists. It was speds like this bitch who blathered about the whole thing being a secret purgatory.
 
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Danny Antonucci never bothered explaining why Eddy had a 70s-style vinyl collection, why Ed had a collection of pre-code horror comics, why Double-D was the one kid in town with access to post-Reagan technology, or why Rolf acted like a pesant so backwards he didn't even realize his country was taken over by communists.
The thing with The Simpsons is that it's always been, on some level, political. Back when it first aired it was specifically mocking American culture of that time. Plenty of the things they mocked are still recognizable today, though, such as incompetent police forces, apathetic teachers, corrupt politicians, washed-up actors, annoying neighbours, soccer mums, etcetera.

There was no need to retcon The Simpsons so hard because what they did back in the day is for the most part still recognizable to viewers today.
 
The show used to be good. I don't mean this in a, back in my day before you pesky kids, way. I mean it actually used to be good, funny, you actually were able to care about the characters. Now it's just... shit, honestly. It relies too much on the guest stars, its attempts to be topical are as embarrassing as your mother trying to use a computer at times, the recycling of episodes... I could go on. It's a husk of its former self and I think all the staff wants is the money and for it to all be over. The gimmicks used (the previously mentioned guest stars, HOMEBOY AND MARGARINE ARE BREAKING UP ALSO LISA IS A VEGAN ATTACK HELICOPTER plots, etc.) just show how bad it is.

The second you need to rely on gimmicks for your show, it's time to give it a shot to the heart. Let it go quickly and painlessly rather than just keep it alive for the sake of keeping it alive.

/cartoon sperging
 
The Simpsons would be a much better show if they kept consistent with a timely/timeless approach like half the cartoons and comics ever made.
This is why I miss that first season personally. They weren't quite as topical then, though you could see a Baby Boomer influence in the writing.

Danny Antonucci never bothered explaining why Eddy had a 70s-style vinyl collection, why Ed had a collection of pre-code horror comics, why Double-D was the one kid in town with access to post-Reagan technology, or why Rolf acted like a pesant so backwards he didn't even realize his country was taken over by communists. It was speds like this bitch who blathered about the whole thing being a secret purgatory.
Geez, people feel they need an agenda here. It's just a CARTOON!
 
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