🐱 The results of 'The Chris Chan Experiment' should horrify us all

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On the 5th of August 2021, Chris Chan, accused of incest with his 80-year-old mother, stood in court, stamped his feet and declared, “I’m famous on the internet”. While most readers will be familiar with the latest saga in Chris’ life, regarding allegations of sexual abuse against his obviously vulnerable mother, along with his claimed transgender identity, many may not be familiar with his background story. It is a story that should not get lost in all of this, as trans activists argue over pronouns, and others chalk it up as simply another example of an AGP male like Jonathan Yaniv behaving in a criminal or disturbing way.

The Chris Chan story is not so simple. In fact, it has very little to do with trans activism at all.

Before I begin, I want to be clear. The charges against Chris are abhorrent and this post is not in any way meant to justify or trivialise his behaviour. He now faces the grave consequences of his actions, and I hope the American justice system will see to it that he is dealt with appropriately and unable to abuse anyone else in the future. What we need to talk about, though, is how Chris got here.

Media outlets have alluded to Chris being probably the most documented person online. This is a fair assessment; many commentators point to a 60-part documentary, available on YouTube, entitled Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History. Sadly, though, many journalists reporting on the case have not watched these videos themselves, meaning they’re missing a complete understanding of the story too.

The documentary shows how for many years Chris has been subjected to a relentless slew of online trolling and manipulation from members of internet forums such as Something Awful and Kiwi Farms. This has included being goaded into performing and documenting a lot of extremely inappropriate behaviour. I’m not going to go into the details of this here. Rose of Dawn’s excellent video is a good primer for those who don’t have the time to sit through almost two full days of content. What is obvious from the videos is that Chris is a mentally ill man, with severe autism, who has been manipulated by online bullies to the point that he no longer has a grip on reality. It is a damning indictment of mental healthcare in the US and the toxicity that comes with anonymous online trolling.

What concerns me most, having also listened to the recording of Chris allegedly confessing to the incest with his mother, is that some of these trolls, who admit in the recording to having been in his life for years, were aware of this abuse and did nothing. Instead, they saw this as just another sensational story to gain clicks online and to ridicule and humiliate Chris and his mother. They are not heroes. Heroes, or even decent people, would have taken this straight to the relevant authorities, not post it on YouTube.

Over the course of the recording, they encourage Chris, even at one point saying “Wow, Barbara!”, when Chris claims his mother made the first move, and telling him it’s “good”, when he describes his first sexual contact with his mother. These people should be brought to justice too. I would hope that most people would agree that Chris should be dealt with seriously, but so should any person who would encourage someone with clear mental disabilities to sexually abuse another person with mental disabilities. This is the part of the story that mainstream media and other news outlets are missing.

Should we be worried that trans activism may shield people like Chris and even insist that they are placed in situations, such as hospital wards and prisons, where they may have access to vulnerable women? Absolutely. But we should also condemn the trolls who treated his mental deterioration as a joke and who did nothing to prevent or stop the sexual abuse of an 80-year-old woman with dementia. We should also be horrified that mental healthcare and social support, in one of the wealthiest nations in the world, has failed so miserably.

Sometimes there are bigger stories to tell than just “trans activist does another awful thing”. The Chris Chan story is one of those occasions. I sincerely hope that Chris continues to be detained appropriately in a male jail while awaiting trial, both to protect any future potential victims of abuse but also to cease any further manipulation or bullying of himself by bad actors. The sagas are over, and many people should feel ashamed, while the rest of us have lessons to learn about the nature of life online and the dangers it brings.
 
Something Graham posted in the comments:

I was somewhat uncomfortable with Jennifer naming Kiwi Farms as they have been so impressive in collecting receipts on some very dangerous people, but she is more familiar with the site than I am. I think Kiwi Farms does amazing work but it's not useful as a resource because some of the comments are so grotesque that it just looks like Stormfront or something. They should do a spin off site, properly moderated for hate speech, and show people what they have. It would be like the Wikileaks of the trans scandal.

Wasn't this what the Lolcow Wiki was for? Whatever happened to that site? He makes a good point that while this site does contain useful information, too many people are put off by the name alone and reflexively avoid it. Having an external host of information like the Lolcow Wiki was would be a good idea.
 
The saga of Chris should teach you one thing and one thing only: don't live your life on the Internet. Chris spent almost 4 years fighting trolls, dating 13 year old boys pretending to be women, and trying to turn his OC donut steal creation into a mega franchise on the Internet and look where it got him. His garbage dump of a house became a mecca for weens, his financial problems became common knowledge, and his latest arrest was followed by thousands of people on the Internet similar to the OJ arrest. Had Chris walked away at any point in the past 10-15 years you wouldn't have Tucker Carlson talking about him, falsely, going to a women's prison for raping his elderly mother. The fact that so many people want to live their lives on the Internet chasing easy fame and clicks shows just how important the story of Chris really is.
 
Well, he's right that anyone who encouraged Chris to rape his mom is a piece of shit and probably deserves to be charged as some kind of accessory (or, since that probably isn't legal -- at least have the shit beat out of them), but the lesson here is that if you are retarded on the internet, people will make fun of you. We can wish human nature were better than it is, but reality is bitch.

He shouldn't have been given unsupervised access to the internet since he was a vulnerable individual. Someone should have stepped in to help out his disabled mom and her tard son so it would never have gotten to this. What about neighbors or family members? Don't they have more of a responsibility for this shit storm than strangers on the internet?
 
>it's all about GenoSamuel / @SamuellyGenie
Cringe, this could've been a well sourced , well thought out thought piece, instead it's just a piece by a thot.
 
Well, he's right that anyone who encouraged Chris to rape his mom is a piece of shit and probably deserves to be charged as some kind of accessory (or, since that probably isn't legal -- at least have the shit beat out of them), but the lesson here is that if you are retarded on the internet, people will make fun of you. We can wish human nature were better than it is, but reality is bitch.

He shouldn't have been given unsupervised access to the internet since he was a vulnerable individual. Someone should have stepped in to help out his disabled mom and her tard son so it would never have gotten to this. What about neighbors or family members? Don't they have more of a responsibility for this shit storm than strangers on the internet?
Had he been given actual online supervision and actual counseling, he would have likely become a small timer who made lame webcomics for a living, or a nobody that people neither cared nor knew about.

However, the reality is that Chris lived during a time where the internet was still in its infancy, and had absolutely no filters and checks. His parents likely didn't even understand nor cared and thought it was a nice distraction for him.

Even before that, he was still good for developmental therapy, and I have a feeling that his parents at least TRIED.

It was more for his sperging and delusions he saw no problem being open about that mostly attracted ridicule.

Then came the people who thought it'd be good fun to manipulate a clearly vulnerable (at the time) manchild who was obsessed with Sanic :story: and get him to say, think and do a lot of bizarre shit for lulz.

Culminate all of that today, that glorious hard work has birthed an unholy being who saw fit to rape his dementia addled mother and actually be proud of it to the horror and outrage of thousands.

This is both funny and sad.
 
Something Graham posted in the comments:



Wasn't this what the Lolcow Wiki was for? Whatever happened to that site? He makes a good point that while this site does contain useful information, too many people are put off by the name alone and reflexively avoid it. Having an external host of information like the Lolcow Wiki was would be a good idea.
No one wanted to make articles lol. We just want to comment and say “nigger”.
if someone were to do a kym type kf, that’d be awesome.
 
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"What is obvious from the videos is that Chris is a mentally ill man, with severe autism, who has been manipulated by online bullies..."

What's not obvious (but should be) is that the whole thing with Chris is that all the trolling could've stopped at the beginning if he wasn't such a senseless dickhead. Even before the trolls, he was getting kicked out of the mall, creeping out girls, getting expelled from community college. He drew nudes of his friend and the dean of the college he was at without troll influence. People need to stop wagging the finger at the "trolls" and Kiwi Farms and realize even high-functioning autistic people like Chris are responsible for their actions. Chris would've done bad shit regardless of people like BlueSpike and the Troon squad, albeit maybe to a smaller degree.
 
The saga of Chris should teach you one thing and one thing only: don't live your life on the Internet. Chris spent almost 4 years fighting trolls, dating 13 year old boys pretending to be women, and trying to turn his OC donut steal creation into a mega franchise on the Internet and look where it got him. His garbage dump of a house became a mecca for weens, his financial problems became common knowledge, and his latest arrest was followed by thousands of people on the Internet similar to the OJ arrest. Had Chris walked away at any point in the past 10-15 years you wouldn't have Tucker Carlson talking about him, falsely, going to a women's prison for raping his elderly mother. The fact that so many people want to live their lives on the Internet chasing easy fame and clicks shows just how important the story of Chris really is.
This is actually a very good point. For every PewDiePie or Jonathan Coulton or Gawr Gura, there’s a Christian Chandler or an Ethan Ralph or a DSP. Nothing wrong with wanting to be the former, but don’t chase it so hard you become the latter.
 
I never followed the Chris Chan stuff but how in god's name are people on the internet supposed to keep a retard from being retarded? Seems like Chris was borderline feral, never trained in the ways of society, could never be contained and generally tard raged through his life. Chris needed to be treated like an SCP for the good of humanity.
 
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