The Sacred Cow of Homosexuality - lmao i'm gonna get so much shit for this

[this is the drama reborn]

I think they mean "how will it survive beyond one generation". I'm all for having homosexuals be segregated into their own communities, as long as it's away from children.

Immigration. If an individual is same sex attracted they might be drawn to such an enclave.

How will they last more than three generations?

I don’t think that same sex attraction stopped people from reproducing in the past. Lesbians sometimes ask gay men for sperm. There is also immigration from people who are same attracted and want to be others like them.

The point is to reduce friction between groups.

 

[Invincible Wheel]

Immigration. If an individual is same sex attracted they might be drawn to such an enclave.



I don’t think that same sex attraction stopped people from reproducing in the past. Lesbians sometimes ask gay men for sperm. There is also immigration from people who are same attracted and want to be others like them.

The point is to reduce friction between groups.

If you have to be forced into an enclave by a body of government, that's not nationalism, that's called being sent to an internment camp

 

[this is the drama reborn]

If you have to be forced into an enclave by a body of government, that's not nationalism, that's called being sent to an internment camp

Don't most people naturally self-segregate? I don't see the problem as long as the government doesn't force people to live in separate areas. It's called freedom of association.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I think a very big factor in why homosexuality has managed to keep a better public image than, for example, troons,

You can always spot the troon in the crowd, gays can go back to the motte when they need to.

 

[RybenZ999]

Going back to my point about fags not choosing to be the way they are, do you guys think being sexually abused can turn someone gay? Most queers probably were born the way they are but from what I've seen, a surprisingly large number of people who turn out to be gay/bi/trans had experienced some form of messed up sexual interaction as a kid and had developed a warped view on sex. So perhaps most fags are born, but some actually are made?

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Homosexuality is a mental illness along with gender dysphoria it was actually never disproven that homosexuality is caused by mental disorders they just threatened all of the members of the psychological Community with violence if they didn't say otherwise.

As for lesbos I've never met a lesbian who didn't have severe issues with her father
All lesbians are just women with daddy issues

 

[Mr Bunny]

As for lesbos I've never met a lesbian who didn't have severe issues with her father
All lesbians are just women with daddy issues

Or incels, I know a woman that just recently came out gay after years on having a crush on guy who was not into her that way. You notice a similar pattern with male incels who decide to troon out.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Going back to my point about fags not choosing to be the way they are, do you guys think being sexually abused can turn someone gay? Most queers probably were born the way they are but from what I've seen, a surprisingly large number of people who turn out to be gay/bi/trans had experienced some form of messed up sexual interaction as a kid and had developed a warped view on sex. So perhaps most fags are born, but some actually are made?

You have it in reverse.

Some might turn out gay despite having a normal, healthy upbringing with nothing overly fucked up happening to them in childhood, but more often than not, it's because of childhood trauma that they turn out to be gay.

 

[Ser Prize]

Homosexuality is a mental illness along with gender dysphoria it was actually never disproven that homosexuality is caused by mental disorders they just threatened all of the members of the psychological Community with violence if they didn't say otherwise.

Got any sources? Not doubting, but it sounds like potent redpill material.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I think the reason people are so visibly uncomfortable when comparing the trans issue with the gay rights issue is because we can clearly see that giving trannies this was leeway was completely incorrect, and the natural conclusion is that we were also incorrect about our veneration of gay people.

They shouldn't be able to marry, they shouldn't be able to adopt, they shouldn't be able to get surrogate designer babies. It all has to stop.

Then people consider the dramatic over the top events that would surround such a societal shift. Many people hold the false belief that taking away the rights of any groups involves a literal Holocaust of violence and chaos. The gears in their brain turn to gay families crying in the street, and then the cognitive dissonance sets in, their brains can't process it.

I think what you’re getting at touches on a fundamental issue that’s very uncomfortable, particularly for a lot of aggrieved former liberals like myself.

If they were at all honest about their intentions, then their methodology makes no goddamn sense. The immediate escalations, the paranoia, the ever-more violent rhetoric with not a single olive branch in site. The only conclusion I really draw is that they’ve been lying about their end goal since before any of us were born; and that any percieved good was almost accidental. Shit like that brings foundational myths into question, which makes your average person very uneasy.

 

[gang weeder]

I think what you’re getting at touches on a fundamental issue that’s very uncomfortable, particularly for a lot of aggrieved former liberals like myself.

If they were at all honest about their intentions, then their methodology makes no goddamn sense. The immediate escalations, the paranoia, the ever-more violent rhetoric with not a single olive branch in site. The only conclusion I really draw is that they’ve been lying about their end goal since before any of us were born; and that any percieved good was almost accidental. Shit like that brings foundational myths into question, which makes your average person very uneasy.

The liberal mindset has a couple of really obvious myths that are completely retarded if you think about them for 2 seconds:

1. Everyone is the same.
2. All behaviors are equal as long as everyone involved consented to whatever it is.

By turning these into unquestionable sacred values it's completely predictable that you will get lots of bad results due to people's expectations being misaligned with everyday reality.

I think some gay people actually did just want to get married and then be left alone. I don't doubt that. The problem is you can never have your cake and eat it too. Humans always exist in hierarchies, someone is going to be on top. There is no world where gays and straights can be treated equal because they aren't the same. You can only favor one or favor the other, and try your best not to abuse the disfavored one. Social status is zero-sum, it is impossible for everyone to be high status and because humans are primates not ants it is also impossible to eliminate hierarchies. Liberals have proven this because their efforts to eliminate hierarchy as part of their religious worldview has only ended up flipping the hierarchies on their heads instead of getting rid of them.

Then I could sperg a lot more about this ties into religion and government but that's enough for one post.

Got any sources? Not doubting, but it sounds like potent redpill material.

Mental illness is a subjective abstract concept so soorces are pretty irrelevant. I would define gayness as a mental illness because well it literally means you can't reproduce. You can only "reproduce" through surrogates or some such which in nature isn't actually reproduction it's just you playing pretend. It's hard to think of a more maladaptive behavior than this given that successful reproduction is the basic purpose of all life forms, unless you go into religious territory but obviously that's not gonna play out favorably for gays either.

One of the important components for a common sense definition of mental illness is that it's something which interferes with healthy normal everyday life. In the world view of liberals homosexual ass sex is somehow equal to marriage and therefore being gay doesn't count. But in reality only being able to have ass sex with other dudes is an extreme dysfunction in a key area of life, again many would argue the most key. So yeah. I do think troonism is probably worse but in a halfway sane world I don't see how homosexuality could be considered anything but mental illness. It's something you would wish your kid to avoid, if they end up having it you love them anyways but you still recognize it's a curse and it would be better if they didn't have it.

 

[The Ugly One]

Got any sources? Not doubting, but it sounds like potent redpill material.

The source is that your sex drive making you want to plow other men in the shitter until you all die of GRIDS is so transparently not what your brain is evolved to do that defining it as a mental order is obvious.

One impact of the Sexual Revolution is that over the next few decades, we went over every definition of social, physical, and mental well-being we had and scrubbed it of any mention of reproduction. It was vilified first as misogynist, and then homophobic, and now transphobic, to say that healthy societies and people produce children. The only thing that makes something healthy now is whether or not makes everyone feel good.

 

[cybertoaster]

If you have to be forced into an enclave by a body of government, that's not nationalism, that's called being sent to an internment camp

It like black college students going full horseshoe theory and demand to be resegregated.

Bet MLK is spinning faster than a turbine right now.

Shit like that brings foundational myths into question, which makes your average person very uneasy.

Sunken cost fallacy? Part of the reason why people don't like to admit they got played its partly ego but also because they invested so much into it (in this case might have built their lives over these neoliberal dogmas) that when the truth comes out it the reality is they wasted their entire lives on this.

Better to keep pretending, like all the boomers who marched for civil rights only to get sucker punched from behind and called a cracker by some black kid on tiktok.

 

[gang weeder]

It like black college students going full horseshoe theory and demand to be resegregated.

Bet MLK is spinning faster than a turbine right now.

Sunken cost fallacy? Part of the reason why people don't like to admit they got played its partly ego but also because they invested so much into it (in this case might have built their lives over these neoliberal dogmas) that when the truth comes out it the reality is they wasted their entire lives on this.

Better to keep pretending, like all the boomers who marched for civil rights only to get sucker punched from behind and called a cracker by some black kid on tiktok.

Well that and also overturning of foundations brings chaos and uncertainty. If we accept that our beliefs were wrong what comes next? What do we believe now? Even if people know the status quo is wrong they will maintain it as long as can just for the sake of stability.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Got any sources? Not doubting, but it sounds like potent redpill material.

Sure, the pearl clutching can be found on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders

The various batshit nuttery that we see from women, gays, and trannies used to be in the DSM but by DSM-IV, released in 1994, it was all scrubbed out. A new DSM was issued in 2013 that codified what the left believed in at the time. The inevitable DSM-VI will undoubtedly have whiteness and toxic masculinity as mental disorders so it can be referenced by various lawmakers and law enforcement as a justification to deny you your rights.

But yeah, homosexuality was considered a disorder right up to about 50 years ago. During the rise of GRIDS in the 1980s, the thought of wearing a condom was so horrifying that many of them risked, contracted, and died from AIDS. Think about how many faggot queens shrieked about how people weren’t wearing masks in 2020-2021 while a generation before, they couldn’t wear a bit of latex on their dong to prevent contracting a lethal virus. If that doesn’t describe a mental disorder, I don’t know what does.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I'm willing to concede that it might be a mental disability, being attracted to the same sex, however that opens the argument up to: "If gay's aren't allowed to have the same US rights as a married couple, anyone with a mental disability should not be allowed to marry either." Which I'd actually be okay with, eugenics is great!

 

[cybertoaster]

If we accept that our beliefs were wrong what comes next? What do we believe now?

Utu, the sun god, here seen chasing a 10/10 albanian woman with his double forks who was trying to sell him a beard insurance scam:

The various batshit nuttery that we see from women, gays, and trannies used to be in the DSM but by DSM-IV, released in 1994, it was all scrubbed out. A new DSM was issued in 2013 that codified what the left believed in at the time. The inevitable DSM-VI will undoubtedly have whiteness and toxic masculinity as mental disorders so it can be referenced by various lawmakers and law enforcement as a justification to deny you your rights.

Interesting since back in the soviet union psychology was politicized and then used as a weapon to incarcerate dissidents saying they were insane which also serves to invalidate whatever obvious failure of communism they were pointing at (like everybody starving because some quack said plants should be forced into communism, no joke) so eventually nobody wanted to go to a therapist or psychiatrist because they knew it was practically a death sentence, not even the craziest ones which is how you got people like chikatilo.

 

[CrentistMcMahon]

"If gay's aren't allowed to have the same US rights as a married couple, anyone with a mental disability should not be allowed to marry either."

Stop being a retard. Never was a man legally prohibited from marrying a woman because he was into man butt.

 

[RybenZ999]

Below paragraph is just a shitpost. It's not meant to be taken seriously. I'm just in the mood for edgy crap right now.

Maybe the reason queers have so many sex partners is because faggotry is heroin. You know how heroin addicts keep using heroin in order to acquire the high they felt the first time they did smack a.k.a chasing a dragon? Maybe that's what queers are, ie druggies. Perhaps fags enjoyed being molested by their teacher/priest/uncle etc in a masochistic manner, so to speak. And this masochistic thirst for taking it up the ass drives them to seek 100s of partners on a whim which drives their body count way above that of the average hetero. Fags just keep chasing that high. that traumatic childhood high.

 

[gang weeder]

Below paragraph is just a shitpost. It's not meant to be taken seriously. I'm just in the mood for edgy crap right now.

Maybe the reason queers have so many sex partners is because faggotry is heroin. You know how heroin addicts keep using heroin in order to acquire the high they felt the first time they did smack a.k.a chasing a dragon? Maybe that's what queers are, ie druggies. Perhaps fags enjoyed being molested by their teacher/priest/uncle etc in a masochistic manner, so to speak. And this masochistic thirst for taking it up the ass drives them to seek 100s of partners on a whim which drives their body count way above that of the average hetero. Fags just keep chasing that high. that traumatic childhood high.

No you are definitely right in a certain sense. Since the reproductive element of sex is completely removed this means gay men are purely hedonistic pleasure seekers which fundamentally changes the nature of the behavior. They can't have children, they will leave nothing behind, they have nothing to look forward to and no purpose other than to seek ever greater highs of degeneracy. It's not exactly like a drug addiction but the parallels are clear and they overlap a lot, in the sense that many gays are also heavy drug users.