The Sims 4

[Null]

Pandering to mobile is one of the biggest factors of enshittification. No company will ever make a real game anymore because they can't bilk retards of mtx as easily.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Who the fuck even asked for this?

EA has always been trying to make The Sims into a mobile/multiplayer game, even though they usually fail. The Sims Online (later renamed to EA-Land) didn't have the appeal of TS1 and died, The Sims 4 was originally going to be a multiplayer game but was hastily and haphazardly changed into the buggy ass Sims 4 game that they're still milking a decade later, The Sims Social died, somehow The Sims FreePlay still gets updates, and The Sims Mobile (which is just a mobile TS4 asset flip) stopped receiving new updates.

The Sims: My First Suicides Kit

If only Justin Trudeau didn't resign as PM, then EA would also partner up with Canada to introduce The Sims: Get MAID Expansion Pack!

 

[the rat]

So they're actually making a Sims 5? I thought that they were just gonna milk Sims 4 until the end of time.

 

[Thiletonomics]

So they're actually making a Sims 5? I thought that they were just gonna milk Sims 4 until the end of time.

EA said that Project Rene will NOT be Sims 5, so unless they heavily pivoted into making one, there won't be one until TS4's code implodes on itself, and even that may not be enough.

 

[Maximilian Rez D'Fault]

Honestly Inzoi looks like the most soulless gookshit I've ever seen, but man the Sims really isn't in any better state is it? It's crazy that the life simulation genre is finally getting some new games yet somehow feels deader that ever.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Honestly Inzoi looks like the most soulless gookshit I've ever seen, but man the Sims really isn't in any better state is it? It's crazy that the life simulation genre is finally getting some new games yet somehow feels deader that ever.

A lot of mainstays like dota, cs and warframe wouldn't manage if they launched today.

 

[Urbicide]

The biggest issue is that the Sims fanbase is about 90% Women and Gay men right now who treat the Sims as a dollhouse simulator where all they do is make sims and build houses they don't actually play the game and are happy to buy all of the EA slop if it means more stuff for houses and Sims. The fanbase has been this way since the later days of Sims 2, and EA started pandering to them during the later days of the Sims 3, I want to say right around the time University Life came out.

It’s kinda a vicious circle now. Like yeah a lot of players just like to make sims and houses, but what else can you really do? The sims 4 was rushed so there’s little gameplay and the actual character simulator is all emotion based (which doesn’t do shit).

Ea keeps adding customization options because it’s easier than adding anything else and it’s suited to the game they released. I don’t think the female fanbase is really that happy with it. I think that’s evident by how hyped people got about infants being added because it was finally something new to do.

Most gameplay at this point is just making big family trees or doing fan made challenges (which a lot of the time end up being character creation and family tree heavy)

I like to play the sims by throwing a bunch of sims in a house and watching what happens. The answer? Not much, unless I download like 50 mods and additional personality traits that inevitably crash the game or get outdated as soon as there’s another update with new troon slop.

 

[Gargoyle]

Honestly Inzoi looks like the most soulless gookshit I've ever seen, but man the Sims really isn't in any better state is it? It's crazy that the life simulation genre is finally getting some new games yet somehow feels deader that ever.

Yeah, there really isn't any good big life sim atm, imo. Every time a new project pops up, I feel like it just fails to capture what made TS1-3 special.

One project I used to have faith in and followed for years was Paralives, but ever since the gameplay reveal, I just lost interest. The gameplay seems very shallow and the characters look hideous. The devs are fucking French Canadians and often focus on irrelevant gay bullshit instead of making the game fun.

Going back to inzoi, I don't know how to feel about its technical scope tbh. The majority of life sim audience is women, and women aren't really into hardware stuff. Like, I'm not going to be upgrading my setup (that already gave me enough headache putting it together) just so that I can play hyperrealistic gook simulator. Idk, life sims are supposed to be cozy games, they don't need to look like this. I feel like they only picked this style because it's popular in Asia, but they haven't considered if the intended audience will even be able to run this thing.

The biggest issue is that the Sims fanbase is about 90% Women and Gay men right now who treat the Sims as a dollhouse simulator where all they do is make sims and build houses they don't actually play the game and are happy to buy all of the EA slop if it means more stuff for houses and Sims.

It’s kinda a vicious circle now. Like yeah a lot of players just like to make sims and houses, but what else can you really do? The sims 4 was rushed so there’s little gameplay and the actual character simulator is all emotion based (which doesn’t do shit).

I can confirm that, at leat for me, I like the dollhouse perspective because the gameplay in TS4 is trash, but the build mode and CAS are genuinely good and fun to play around with (with CC, of course, idk how people play vanilla and not go mad). I have tried for years and years to actually "play for real", but it's just awful. Even with all the expansions - they don't actually add anything fun, just more souless, useless, rushed shit.

Though, I will give you that - if I was not using zloemu and actually had a legit copy of TS4, I would rather die than pay for shit like kits just to get a few items. In fact, I would not be buying any packs. This game is just not worth anyone's money tbh.

 

[The_Red_Man]

It's really hard to imagine how they're staying afloat. Do troons just budget this shit with their HRT or are there actually just a shit load of people who just "deal with it" and pay for everything.

 

[Gargoyle]

It's really hard to imagine how they're staying afloat. Do troons just budget this shit with their HRT or are there actually just a shit load of people who just "deal with it" and pay for everything.

Retards pay for it. The sims community is infamously toxicly positive. They are unwilling to criticise the game in any way and often buy everything EA shits out to spite the haters.

I think those sims fans function in a very similar way to pokemon fans - buying overpriced, outdated piece of shit game and bending over to be fucked in the ass by the publisher/dev because those games once held a very special place in their hearts. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

 

[Maximilian Rez D'Fault]

It's really hard to imagine how they're staying afloat. Do troons just budget this shit with their HRT or are there actually just a shit load of people who just "deal with it" and pay for everything.

You have to understand that probably 80% of sims players are honest to God women. They just see new thing dangled in front of them and pay money. I think a lot don't recognize how fucked over they're getting because the sims is the only game they play and they don't really care as long as they can pick out new outfits for their sims. That might be changing though as it seems even the most normal of soccer moms and housewives seem to be tiring of TS4 and all the gay shit.

 

[HeyYou]

It's really hard to imagine how they're staying afloat. Do troons just budget this shit with their HRT or are there actually just a shit load of people who just "deal with it" and pay for everything.

Only gacha (and as mentioned, Pokemon) players are more Pavlov'd than Sims players, they will buy everything that comes out. Consider also that Sims 4 can run on nearly anything and is 10 years outdated graphically, which means asset creation is much easier and cheaper. I think they outright only have like 5 dudes even making assets and 5 dudes coding it, the rest of the employees are all some variation of HR.

 

[Rogue AI]

Bringing attention to something with 0 downloads. I gotta admit this is some dedication to triggering people since it looks like this person used a bunch of custom tattoos to make these sims.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Only gacha (and as mentioned, Pokemon) players are more Pavlov'd than Sims players, they will buy everything that comes out. Consider also that Sims 4 can run on nearly anything and is 10 years outdated graphically, which means asset creation is much easier and cheaper. I think they outright only have like 5 dudes even making assets and 5 dudes coding it, the rest of the employees are all some variation of HR.

Blizzard game players, especially World of Warcraft players, are also just as Pavlov'd. WoW has been going for 20 years, with how many Expansions so far (and all of them render the previous Expansion content obsolete), and they also nickle and dime with many microtransaction items.

As for the development team still working on TS4, if the infamous bug fest that is My Wedding Stories has to say, it's mostly "Artists", with the bare minimum of engineers and Q&A.

 

[Gargoyle]

As for the development team still working on TS4, if the infamous bug fest that is My Wedding Stories has to say, it's mostly "Artists", with the bare minimum of engineers and Q&A.

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Wow, crazy that with so many "artists" the new stuff still look like shit anyway. Especially the CAS items are just horrendous. And we all know it isn't the fault of the graphics because CC creators are successfully putting out maxis match stuff that looks realy good. They just don't give a fuck.

 

[Soso]

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Bringing attention to something with 0 downloads. I gotta admit this is some dedication to triggering people since it looks like this person used a bunch of custom tattoos to make these sims.

I remember people would laugh at this or eyeroll at it instead of getting pointlessly offended and typing an essay about it. Is something actually this triggering?

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

started a new game in TS4 as I was bored, unsure if I stick with it, but theres nothing I love more then a good LARP so ill give it a shot

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Bringing attention to something with 0 downloads. I gotta admit this is some dedication to triggering people since it looks like this person used a bunch of custom tattoos to make these sims.

I mean come on this is funny, but sadly its unsurprising given the The Sims target demographic, getting offended like this is honestly pathetic

 

[The Lawgiver]

Even MySims looks better than this mobile ad bullshit:

At least MySims has a cutesy style and is easy on the eyes. "Project Rene" on the other hand...

Mysims was a fun weird timewaster/creative game series with sims branding slapped on it so it'd sell and that pissed the sims people off. They were also FULL GAMES.

The Cake Dancer has returned to TS4 in the Battle Pass Seasonal Event, but just like other things with TS4, it is very watered down, "safe", and very minimal effort. (she "teleports" back into the cake) She is nowhere near the original one from TS1:

THEY TOOK AWAY THE CAKE MONKEY WHAT THE FUCK

 

[Soso]

I mean come on this is funny, but sadly its unsurprising given the The Sims target demographic, getting offended like this is honestly pathetic

I dread how the the modern sims target demographic would react to omgwtfbbq if it was released today.

 

[Claudio Hernández Castañeda]

Guys, since it's obvious they have online statistics of the options all the players are using...

How much do you think they have as percentage for the mutilated tits option?

I say less than 10%