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Ok, so confirmed, they can’t do it.

I don’t understand why they can’t hire experienced coders and get the nose rings and prolapses out of the way?
Seriously, where are the coders of before? This seems like an industry-wide problem, and I don’t get where they’ve all gone to the point that we’re losing the ability to make games.
If I were to hazard a guess? Smothered in the mediocrity that is the corporate bureaucracy. Fixed a critical bug in the game that players would love to have? Sorry no can do, that's 3 layers of automated testing to be done, and QA and the team lead and the lady from marketing will have to approve it first. Got a nice idea that players would love? Sorry, it gotta pass the design committee, C-Suit AB testing and focus test groups where it'd be sanded down to the usual Ubislop collectathon. And so on and so forth. Foresight and proactive bugfixing is discouraged, you best be a good office drone where you fix your mandated nr of bugs or implement X features (doesn't matter how big) to meet your monthly KPIs.

There's a reason why Carmack fucked off to Faceberg to do his VR thing and now whatever it is he's doing with AI.

EDIT: I guess you can also blame the growing cohort of "videogame designers" who studied how to make videogames except they're bad at it because they have no real life experience or game theory to back it up. There's also the growing Indian Question infesting much of the tech world, and of course the dreaded "outsourcing" that every retard boomer likes to do to save pennies.
 
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Is there any reason why someone would pick 4 over 3? I remember hearing Sims 3 being way more immersive than 4 because of everything being way more dynamic.
it has the best create a sim and build modes of the series. not perfect, but compared to the competition it is leagues better. complete garbage when it comes to gameplay tho. but i spent more time making sims and building houses than actually playing the game
 
Is there any reason why someone would pick 4 over 3? I remember hearing Sims 3 being way more immersive than 4 because of everything being way more dynamic.
Slightly more intuitive character creation if someone doesn't want to get into Sims 3 sliders, a dislike of Sim's 3 more realistic artstyle, not being able to run 3 well (common on even the most powerful of systems and with many of the fixes installed, and let's be honest most people looking to play the Sims usually don't have powerful PCs) or somehow actually caring about and needing the "inclusive" nonsense they've added to Sims 4 over the years are the only reasons I can think of for why someone would actually prefer 4 over 3. Otherwise, everything about Sims 4 is either a sidegrade at best or an outright downgrade at worst when compared to Sims 3.
 
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New survey dropped. Unsurprisingly it is all about diversity and representation.
 
I don't know how they can possibly make Sims 4 even more of a Burger King Kids Club of a game short of adding "diverse" religions. No christianity of course that'd be bad.

The Sims Team mentioned a year (or more?) ago that they were thinking about adding disabilities to the game, but they didn't say much afterwards if they were actually going to add them to the game.
 
The Sims Team mentioned a year (or more?) ago that they were thinking about adding disabilities to the game, but they didn't say much afterwards if they were actually going to add them to the game.
I feel like you could make some good roleplaying options in the game with this if you had actual maluses or difficulties for sims with proper disabilities. Instead I imagine that it will be like D&D characters in Wheelchairs. It will not be factored in and is there purely for ass-pats.
 
I feel like you could make some good roleplaying options in the game with this if you had actual maluses or difficulties for sims with proper disabilities. Instead I imagine that it will be like D&D characters in Wheelchairs. It will not be factored in and is there purely for ass-pats.
Physical disabilities was always something that I wanted in the Sims for the gameplay opportunities but I dread it more than anything with how Sims 4 is handling "diversity." Mental disabilities have basically been made into le quirky nonsense with how they renamed insane to erratic and removed nearly all of its negative aspects.
 
Took the survey. The best part is the very first question.

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This, combined with how hard they’ve been marketing the new dlc, means they are loosing players HEAVY
Like proper commie fags, they just didn't DIVERSITY AND CULTURE hard enough

If only they added shitting on the beach, plates in ears, neck stretching, ebt and wheelchair paki rape gangs then everybody would still be playing Sims 4
 
Since I took screenshots of the rest, I figure I should post them here.

They seem to recognize that the dlc overload/lack of free updates/shitty repetitive base game is killing their player base. About a third of the survey is them asking about those above mentioned factors making people not play. Like each factor you click comes with an additional question about how strongly it affected your decision to stop playing, how convinced you would be to play again if it was fixed, and how you think they should fix it.

The next third of the survey was asking in about a million different ways if certain aspects of the game adequately represent your culture. (Does build mode? Does clothing? Does gameplay? Does… you get the point)

But the next third they ask about specific content ideas for base game. So we get a glimpse into what they’re thinking about.

I answered not interested to basically everything but more create a sim color options because that is the one thing that can benefit from a surface level bandaid being slapped on top.

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They ask a question about each hair color (red, blonde, brown, black, hair with gray)
Also textures (afro (that was the word they used idk) wavy, curly)

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Priorities.

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Like I said before.

Here’s where we get back into representation

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Don’t we have a tattoo tool now?

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Who would use this outside of a very specific story? Just download cc.
It’s not like they would include medical gameplay with it. It would be an empty cosmetic. The sim would still have to use the toilet anyway.

Now you get hit with a million cultural ideas.
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There was one for Chinese New Year between these two but I didn’t screenshot.

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Every other culture got a single question, they seem really focused on this Wiccan idea.

They want to add holidays too. Times must be desperate for them to put holidays out there as a base game update instead of dlc.
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There were like 1000 holiday questions including Holi and Mother’s day (didn’t see a Father’s day?)
And there was a space at the end for you to suggest holidays yourself.

So while they do seem frightened and aware that they are losing players because of how boring, surface level, and repetitive the game play is, and that the overload of dlc and lack of free content isn’t helping, they know that fixing the base game (overhauling personalities and interactions, creating content where there are rabbitholes, giving us stuff to do that further creates stuff to do) is too much work.

It’s much easier to hold onto their remaining players who use this game as a doll house with a surface level representation update, while maybe getting back some players with the allure of free content.

This whole survey, especially the start, is probably to gauge just how well this will pay off. Is representation just enough of an issue that they can rationalize it instead of anything meaningful? That’s what I think this is about. That’s why a third of the survey is weighing your issues with the game, another third is asking how much representation affects each part of your gaming experience, and the final third is gauging interest in the representation ideas they already came up with.

But I don’t want medical cosmetics for create a sim that won’t affect my gameplay.

I don’t want random Wiccan clothes that won’t affect my gameplay.

I don’t want to celebrate Mother’s Day when brunch means rapid clicking sims to chairs to get them to sit together, the daughter grabbing a plate and taking it to the hallway, the dad grabbing the half eaten food to wash in the bathroom sink, and the mom frozen in her bedroom not registering the actions I’m telling her to take because it overloaded her to do list of sitting down and playing on the computer for 12 hours. It will end with me shift clicking to debug every sim and the stupid timer running out with maybe one thing on their checklist done.

Here’s the link
 
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Every other culture got a single question, they seem really focused on this Wiccan idea.
Wiccan things are very popular with women which is (I believe) still the majority of their playerbase. They probably view it as an easy way to appeal.

There were like 1000 holiday questions including Holi and Mother’s day (didn’t see a Father’s day?)
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Physical disabilities was always something that I wanted in the Sims for the gameplay opportunities but I dread it more than anything with how Sims 4 is handling "diversity." Mental disabilities have basically been made into le quirky nonsense with how they renamed insane to erratic and removed nearly all of its negative aspects.
Much of disability discourse has been clogged up by representation politics and psychiatric identities that I do think it's very hard to put in the game for 'liberal pandering' without people getting offended. The closest game to The Sims with physical disabilities is Rimworld, where characters can randomly get medical conditions as they age or they have their body parts damaged in fights, but it's a game with strong creator vision, combat and player base that's less 'woke'.

When it comes to The Sims 4, especially '4' kind of audience, how would you even please them?

Make disability a random outcome of events, then people who want to play a perfect life would get upset that their sims get crippled, or the representation crowd would think it's too 'gamey'. Make it curable, and representation crowd would say that it is bad because these conditions cannot yet be cured in real life. Make it that babies are randomly born with medical conditions, and it'll bring up abortion and eugenics debate because the audience who wants representation are the ones who'll care about this. Or they get upset because it's not realistic, or whatever.

One thing that came out quite obviously in Rimworld to me is that every traits and status is gameplay based, Old Sims games were also designed around the ideas that things impact gameplay especially in funny/parodic way. But for woke audience, disability isn't a 'funny matter', so it cannot be be a funny gameplay elements. (Same goes for 'Insane' trait or Sims 2 therapist - which were never about accurate 'mental illness as coded by modern psychiatry' representation - which made people got upset)

In the end if we get anything it'll be completely cosmetic that doesn't have place in the game play, like the top surgery scars and 'detailed gender selector' that can allow you to select sim pronoun, pregnancy and breastfeeding - those are CAS-only options, but the real procedure of gender transitioning has no in-game elements.

It’s much easier to hold onto their remaining players who use this game as a doll house with a surface level representation update, while maybe getting back some players with the allure of free content.

How did Sims 4 audience became so obsessed with 'surface but labelled' representation anyway? - And that's not just on EA with Eco Pack and custom gender stuff, look at Sims 4 nsfw mods, and how they need to have real hood slangs, sophisticated crime mods, or real psychiatric labels as traits. (My Sims has real ADHD/Autism, they aren't simply just absent minded!)

It matters less whether these things actually affect the game or are interesting, it's just twitter bio but for Sims

Shit, even GTA still has its own departure from real life and parodic writing, and this is a game serires that is more concerned with crime culture directly.
 
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I'm in the mood for Sims, but Sims 4 is a tumor and Sims 3 has long passed the point of being playable for me (even though I'm regularly using Regul Save Cleaner, deleting old saves I haven't played, using the AwesomeMod patch, etc. I've put about 100 hours into the game on two separate families, which only have three generations between both (1 in one save and 2 in another), but I can't even rotate the camera anymore without severe lag spikes).

Is Anadius' Sims 2 Legacy collection worth it? I know it's supposed to re-add all the missing content from the Steam release, but my concern is that it seems to be built off of the Steam release. The one that EA abandoned like four months ago despite it just not working most of the time.

If there's someplace to easily find the Ultimate Collection, that'd also be appreciated. Somehow it's been exorcised from every fucking site I generally go to, normal storefronts included, mostly in favor of the broken Steam rerelease but sometimes replaced by nothing at all. Insane how hard it is to find a decent way of playing this 20-year-old game.
 
I'm in the mood for Sims, but Sims 4 is a tumor and Sims 3 has long passed the point of being playable for me (even though I'm regularly using Regul Save Cleaner, deleting old saves I haven't played, using the AwesomeMod patch, etc. I've put about 100 hours into the game on two separate families, which only have three generations between both (1 in one save and 2 in another), but I can't even rotate the camera anymore without severe lag spikes).

Is Anadius' Sims 2 Legacy collection worth it? I know it's supposed to re-add all the missing content from the Steam release, but my concern is that it seems to be built off of the Steam release. The one that EA abandoned like four months ago despite it just not working most of the time.

If there's someplace to easily find the Ultimate Collection, that'd also be appreciated. Somehow it's been exorcised from every fucking site I generally go to, normal storefronts included, mostly in favor of the broken Steam rerelease but sometimes replaced by nothing at all. Insane how hard it is to find a decent way of playing this 20-year-old game.
EA DMCA's all the versions shared online after they released their broken trash, most of them were maintained by tumblr people who obey EAs demands unfortunately but you can still download the old version here https://ts2.crd.co/ safe and working when i checked a couple of months ago, contains all packs.
 
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