UN The sounds of separation -- how 8 minutes of audio changed the immigration debate - this is surely the end of blumpffle

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/donald-trump-pro-publica-sound/index.html

(CNN)The sounds are unmistakable: Children sobbing. Hard. Begging to be allowed to see their parents, their aunt, a relative. And then crying again when told that isn't possible.

The nearly eight minutes of audio -- capturing conversations between children separated from their parents and border patrol workers and published by Pro Publica -- is difficult to listen to. It's heart-wrenching. It's tear-inducing. And, within the space of five days, those children have become the face -- or, rather, the voice -- of the border separation crisis and the Trump administration's botched handling of it.
On Friday, Democratic California Rep. Ted Lieu played the audio on the House floor. He was asked to stop by Rep. Karen Handel, a Georgia Republican, who was presiding over the House floor at that moment. He didn't stop. (You can watch the whole thing here.)

Earlier in the week, New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez did the same thing -- playing the audio on the floor of the world's greatest deliberative body. Protestors played the audio outside of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen's house. New York magazine reporter Olivia Nuzzi played the audio during White House press secretary Sarah Sanders' daily briefing.
It became the soundtrack of the week in politics -- and in the culture more broadly. The terrified cries and wails of the children bored into you, made it impossible for you to ignore their plight -- and the policy that led them to such a sad state.

The eight minutes of audio more than anything else -- even the now-controversial photo of a young girl crying -- came to define the human face (or voice) behind this policy change by the Trump administration.
And the power of those crying kids is something that President Donald Trump and his team clearly didn't plan for. Trump, earlier in the week, insisted a) he was sticking by the "zero-tolerance" policy because it was the only way to toughen the borders and b) he lacked the power to change the policy. (That second part was not true -- then or now.)
Within 48 hours -- as the audio was played and replayed hourly on cable TV -- Trump, ever the pragmatist, realized he was fighting a battle he couldn't hope to win. No matter how much his base loves his tough-guy act on the border, the sounds of little children crying for their parents was winning out. So he reversed course -- signing an executive order that allows kids to be detained alongside their parents for more than 20 days. (The legal prospects of Trump's executive order are dicey.)
The whole episode is a reminder of how dry policy crafted in some conservative (or liberal) think tank crumbles when faced with audio or video that speaks to the common human emotions we all share.
What the audio reminds us is this: At root, the most important part of this border story isn't the parents trying to enter the country illegally. (That's not to say that doesn't matter; it does.) It's the children -- blameless in all of this -- who are being separated from their parents and, in some cases, flown to other states where they are even more isolated and alone.

No one -- not even the hardest of the immigration hardliners -- can listen to the audio of the young kids crying and not be reminded that they are the real victims here, and the ones who really need our protection.

 

[Positron]

It's heart-wrenching. It's tear-inducing.

No one -- not even the hardest of the immigration hardliners -- can listen to the
audio of the young kids crying and not be reminded that they are the real victims here, and the ones who really need our protection.

Say for yourself. Eight minutes of kids bawwwing is just annoying. The quicker they dump the little shits back to Mexico, the better.

 

[PantsFreeZone]

They should stick Ted Lieu in a cage.

 

[Hux]

Spoiler: Hey Hux, what was the hardest part for you when you listened to that sound clip of those kids crying?

"my dick"

 

[RP 520]

You know the kids wouldn't be crying their eyes out if their parents didn't drag them along to cross the border illegally and put them in that situation in the first place.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I have a counter for this.

Play audio from the funeral of Kate Steinle. Or Jamiel Shaw Jr. Or those two kids that got murdered by MS-13 members in Virginia.

 

[wellthathappened]

If there was no welfare state, open borders would be fine. But it exists, so here we are.

 

[IV 445]

I’m sure those cries weren’t recorded in his house asking his kids/grandkids to participate in helping daddy help others.

 

[Bassomatic]

If there was no welfare state, open borders would be fine. But it exists, so here we are.

In the 1800s pre gibs about 1/3 went back.

Just not enough of the Irish, and god damn those potato niggers, damn them all.

I'd be ok with them coming here if those assholes stopped shutting all my sweat shops down, I thought this is the land of the free and if I want to bolt a 6 year old spic to a table and make him sew Nikes I damned well thought this was America. but nooooooooo.

 

[wellthathappened]

In the 1800s pre gibs about 1/3 went back.

Just not enough of the Irish, and god damn those potato niggers, damn them all.

I'd be ok with them coming here if those assholes stopped shutting all my sweat shops down, I thought this is the land of the free and if I want to bolt a 6 year old spic to a table and make him sew Nikes I damned well thought this was America. but nooooooooo.

There is nothing better than a good taco truck or a loyal landscaper. But the welfare state makes this problematic.

 

[Draza]

Oh yawn. If only their dirtbag parents didn't break the law and put them in this situation in the first place.

 

[wellthathappened]

Oh yawn. If only their dirtbag parents didn't break the law and put them in this situation in the first place.

Eh, I dunno if I would go that far. Its a shit situation. I can understand people wanting to sneak across our borders when they come from a society that doesn't view service jobs negatively, while citizens refuse to do said jobs and are happy getting welfare instead.

 

[SwanDive]

I'd be crying like a bitch too if I were 6 years old and my parents were just fucking arrested. Are we just not gonna arrest people now when they break the law? That'd be ridiculous.

 

[Lysol]

... and so yeah we should care about the illegal immigrant's children! ... (inaudible) ... Wait, what? Who gives a shit about the population of homeless children in our own country?

 

[Red Sun]

We should get the biggest speakers that glorious American manufacturing can produce, neatly splice the national anthem into the background of these audio tapes, and broadcast them at the border. Maybe the sound of thousands of children being torn from their mothers' arms and thrown into cages (or whatever it is they say we've been doing) will convince them to go the fuck back home.

 

[Red Hood]

People care about illegal immigrants, but not enough to pay them what they'd have to pay legal Americans or provide them with a safe working environment.

We should get the biggest speakers that glorious American manufacturing can produce, neatly splice the national anthem into the background of these audio tapes, and broadcast them at the border. Maybe the sound of thousands of children being torn from their mothers' arms and thrown into cages (or whatever it is they say we've been doing) will convince them to go the fuck back home.

I agree with the sentiment. I disagree about the song.

 

[ThePurpleProse]

That sounds like 8 mins of a recorded left wing session trying to come up with something that would resemble a logic idea.

 

[OhGoy]

"i'm well aware that letting in millions of illegals is an objectively bad thing for the economy, but come on... i saw a picture of a dead toddler i heard audio of some kids crying so now we just HAVE to let them in!"

 

[fam]

I have a counter for this.

Play audio from the funeral of Kate Steinle. Or Jamiel Shaw Jr. Or those two kids that got murdered by MS-13 members in Virginia.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think fighting useless bullshit with more useless bullshit is such a great idea.

 

[CIA Nigger]

So this article is literally this image then: