US "The Squad" Megathread - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib Derangement Syndrome

I honestly only know about American politics from what I read on the Internet but since we all love shitting on leftists I figured we'd get a kick out of this. Also it's trending on Twitter so you know it's important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...irect=on&noredirect=on&utm_term=.960552c9ba53

NEW YORK — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old political novice running on a low budget and an unabashedly liberal platform, upset longtime U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley on Tuesday in the Democratic congressional primary in New York.

The surprise victory by the community organizer in a district that includes parts of the Bronx and Queens came after an energetic, grassroots campaign that mustered more than enough support in a low-turnout race that many had expected to be an easy win for Crowley, a member of the Democratic House leadership.

“The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who has never held elected office and whose candidacy attracted only modest media attention.

She told The Associated Press after her victory that she didn’t have enough money to do polling in the race, but felt in her gut that her message had a chance to connect.

“I live in this community. I organized in this community. I felt the absence of the incumbent. I knew he didn’t have a strong presence,” she said.

Crowley has been in Congress since 1999 and hadn’t faced an opponent in a primary election since 2004, when Ocasio-Cortez was just a teenager. He was considered a candidate to become the next House speaker if Democrats win the majority.

“It’s not about me,” Crowley, 56, told his supporters at a campaign party following his loss. “It’s about America. I want nothing but the best for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. I want her to be victorious.”

He later played guitar with a band at the election night gathering, and dedicated the first song, Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” to Ocasio-Cortez.

Crowley represents New York’s 14th Congressional District, where he is also the leader of the Queens Democratic party.

Ocasio-Cortez was outspent by an 18-1 margin during her race but won the endorsement of some influential groups on the party’s far left, including MoveOn, as well as the actress Cynthia Nixon, who is running for governor. She defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points.

Born in the Bronx to a mother from Puerto Rico and a father who died in 2008, Ocasio-Cortez said she decided to challenge Crowley to push a more progressive stance on economic and other issues.

She attended Boston University, where she earned degrees in economics and international relations, and also spent time working in the office of the late U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy.

After graduating, she returned to the Bronx where she became a community organizer. In the 2016 presidential campaign she worked for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Among her issues is expanding the Medicare program to people of all ages and abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. She recently went to Tornillo, Texas, to protest against policies that have separated parents from their children at the southern U.S. border.

Ocasio-Cortez gained some internet attention for a campaign video called “The Courage to Change,” a two-minute spot for which she wrote the script and featured footage from her own home.

Crowley is chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the fourth-highest ranking position in Democratic leadership in that chamber of Congress.

His loss drew the attention of President Donald Trump.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!” he tweeted.

The Republican candidate for the office, Anthony Pappas, is running unopposed and had no primary. Pappas teaches economics at St. John’s University.

She was a Bernie campaigner, is supported by BLM, and wants to abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Also this was in a solid-blue Congressional District so you know she's a shoo-in for next Congress.

But hey, we did get to see Trump laugh at Crowley on Twitter.

 

[Stoneheart]

Say what you will about Jimmy Carter, but he's a good man to have in your canoe if you're ever attacked by a vicious swimming rabbit.

He is a good man all around, he is 100 and still doing good things for poor people. unlike lets say the clintons or bush.

 

[break these cuffs]

Both the DNC and the RNC are actively harmful to the American people and much as I dislike AOC's actual policies I think the fact that she's able to piss off the DNC so much is a good thing and will hopefully break their stranglehold over the party.

My secret hope for Trump was all his America First grandstanding would spin off a Nationalist Party either when he went Israel First or when he leaves a cuckservatives go back to doing what they do. It's a pipedream and it would be crippling if there wasn't a simultaneous fracturing of the DNC, but I do have an accelerationist streak in me.

 

[YW 525]

My secret hope for Trump was all his America First grandstanding would spin off a Nationalist Party either when he went Israel First or when he leaves a cuckservatives go back to doing what they do.

There is no going back. It is never going to be like it used to be ever again.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

The RNC was much more lockstep in the 90s and 2000s. Bookended between when Pat Buchanan got purged and when teabaggers started primarying moderates in 2010-2014.

The DNC was always going to unravel because the party is nothing more than aggrieved interest groups vying for the “Most Oppressed” award. White women and gays, the winners of yesteryear, are now getting the boot. Blacks are getting driven out of cities now populated by Hispanics. Chinks are trying to get their piece of the pie but are getting raughed off as Honorary Whites. It’s a giant shit show of their own making and I’m loving every minute of it

The RNC was a feckless waste in the nineties. After Reagan and Bush Sr., they kept it up until Clinton showed they were toothless with his perjury. It was late in his second term they grew any kind of teeth, and that was mainly because the Democrats were completely feckless at that point. I'd say, between Monica Lewinski giving a blowjob and 911, both parties were utter trash, and the only real shit that happened was Clinton undermining western values with "globalisation".

I only switched my political allegiance during Trump's campaign, when I finally saw the identitarian left turn into absolute maniacs. Now, I would vote for almost anyone that keeps that ideology from power. I don't think my political views have changed much from what a moderate leftist was in the seventies, but a constant stream of ignoring women's possible legitimate complaints about assualt due to their politics, a firehose of "kill white people", and that sort of thing has ruined the Democratic party. It tickles my schadenfreude bone, and I enjoy every woke fucker falling beneath the wheel of the bus, but the DNC and their base have become so cartoonishly misguided, no sane person would vote for them.

 

[Gone_Fission]

It's truly amazing, as if by design, both parties have the exact mix of policy positions required to produce a roughly 50/50 split that makes everyone unhappy and ensures that reptiles in the liberal media and neocon thinktanks always dominate the national discussion.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

It's truly amazing, as if by design, both parties have the exact mix of policy positions required to produce a roughly 50/50 split that makes everyone unhappy and ensures that reptiles in the liberal media and neocon thinktanks always dominate the national discussion.

On the positive side, it will be an interesting topic for people in the future when Evolutionary Memetics is a genuine field of study. How you can end up with the effects of a conspiracy without any actual conspiracy as societies simply fall into the most stable arrangement of distribitions of ideas.

 

[TowinKarz]

At risk of increasing the spergy sidetracks in this topic, Jimmy Carter never actually made it to a nuclear submarine - he served for a short time on a diesel sub and was then selected for nuclear training, but his father died so he was given a hardship discharge to manage his family's peanut farm (really).

Yes, but he didn't have to go to sea to end up inside a leaky reactor

 

[Unog]

I don't think the GND is necessarily the boondoggle people claim it to be I think there's a worthy compromise buried in that legislature certainly. we should/could at the very least consider revamping our agriculture system so as to reap the collective benefits of a cheaper and more efficient food supply in the face of steadily rising food prices.

Beyond that I'm big on infrastructure spending currently as I feel we're long overdue for a national overhaul.

Eh? Does it really?

The GND would've costed 93 trillion dollars, about 13 trillion more than the sum total of all the money in the world.

Yes, it's fucking stupid as shit and deserves the mockery it's gotten.

Her biggest problems aren't going to come from across the aisle, they're going to come from her own party working as hard as they can to shove her back behind that bar where she came from.

I think it's great and speaks to not only how stupid but entitled she is that she not only told them in public what her plan was to deal with other party members that she didn't like (which would as you said bust up their greatest strength), but has the absolute gall to get upset that they did something to hinder her ability to do it.

I'm still completely baffled that Hillary did this. Her history does not, in ANY way, jive with identity politics. In the past, she declined to support gay people and said things about minorities that would make Current Year types melt into a puddle. She didn't need to do anything to keep hard liberal votes, Trump triggered them into fits. But identity politics is fucking vote poison to middle of the road people.

I think she bought the kool-aid that it was the current zeitgeist of the West, and who could blame her? Twitter, Facebook, MSM, movies, videogames, tv shows, comedians, actors and actresses, comic books, all of these and probably a couple more that I'm not thinking of bend to the will of what it's mouthpieces demand.

Both the DNC and the RNC are actively harmful to the American people and much as I dislike AOC's actual policies I think the fact that she's able to piss off the DNC so much is a good thing and will hopefully break their stranglehold over the party.

I hope the meme that we'd all be better off if the two-party system failed never dies. It's a pretty funny one.

 

[Grapefruit]

the tag...

 

[NQ 952]

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Literally dumber than Trump.

 

[Absolutego]

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Literally dumber than Trump.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

She's the millennial Sarah Palin. She has the same kind of brainlet takes, the same kind of thirsty fanboys, she's also part of a coalition of similarly stupid fellow politicians (the Grizzly Mamas, Justice Democrats) trying to usurp the party leadership.

 

[HeyYou]

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Literally dumber than Trump.

It was definitely in reaction to FDR, but you have to be exceptionally stupid to believe that they were targeting democrats in an attempt to prevent them from ever being president and not simply putting into law a presidential standard. Also, you have to get a certain amount of states to ratify an amendment to the constitution. They got it.

It's also weirdly authoritarian. Hamilton thought the presidency should be for life and pretty much every single founding father shut that shit down.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

It was definitely in reaction to FDR, but you have to be exceptionally stupid to believe that they were targeting democrats in an attempt and not simply putting into law a presidential standard. Also, you have to get a certain amount of states to ratify an amendment to the constitution. They got it.

It's also weirdly authoritarian. Hamilton thought the presidency should be for life and pretty much every single founding father shut that shit down.

FDR literally put people into concentration camps.

 

[NQ 952]

It was definitely in reaction to FDR, but you have to be exceptionally stupid to believe that they were targeting democrats in an attempt and not simply putting into law a presidential standard. Also, you have to get a certain amount of states to ratify an amendment to the constitution. They got it.

It's also weirdly authoritarian. Hamilton thought the presidency should be for life and pretty much every single founding father shut that shit down.

The authoritarian part isn't weird once you realize liberals have fuck all to do with liberty.

 

[Absolutego]

It was definitely in reaction to FDR, but you have to be exceptionally stupid to believe that they were targeting democrats and not simply putting into law a presidential standard. Also, you have to get a certain amount of states to ratify an amendment to the constitution. They got it.

Whether or not they were "targeting Democrats" doesn't matter when FDR died all of 4 months into his 4th consecutive term and it was literally impossible for him to run for reelection anyways. Hell, the 22nd amendment wasn't even proposed until almost two years after FDR's death. It wasn't even ratified by enough states to be official until 1951.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Whether or not they were "targeting Democrats" doesn't matter when FDR died all of 4 months into his 4th consecutive term and it was literally impossible for him to run for reelection anyways. Hell, the 22nd amendment wasn't even proposed until almost two years after FDR's death. It wasn't even ratified by enough states to be official until 1951.

Right, and much like all the hullabaloo about getting rid of the EC, do people like AOC just pretend that presidential term limits don't apply to and affect Republicans as well? It's not like it's a Dems-only policy regardless of its genesis, lol. I'm sure many people would have wanted, say, Reagan to have a third term (though I have no idea if Reagan wanted that himself).

 

[Karl der Grosse]

I recall during the last two years of Reagan's second term I saw a few commercials advocating the repeal of the 22nd Amendment. I don't remember who made them, but it obviously didn't really go anywhere. I think my assumption was just that Reagan's people or the RNC were behind it.

 

[TowinKarz]

Right, and much like all the hullabaloo about getting rid of the EC, do people like AOC just pretend that presidential term limits don't apply to and affect Republicans as well? It's not like it's a Dems-only policy regardless of its genesis, lol. I'm sure many people would have wanted, say, Reagan to have a third term (though I have no idea if Reagan wanted that himself).

There indeed was a weak but sincere push to rescind that very Amendment when Reagan was in office by the Reps, so it's not like they don't curse it sometimes too. And every Presidential fanboy since has proposed the same out of either a delusion that it could happen or a form of flattering their hero.

Like the unwritten rule in baseball about not admiring your own home run, it's considered bad taste to support such moves except in the most obvious of jokes and respect the law. Which, naturally, Obama bat-flipped on his way out declaring that he was upset he had to step aside for a racist......

The degree to which people believe there are, in fact, two sets of rules, stated or unwritten, that mean they get four strikes in office while the other side (naturally evil and authoritarian) only gets three, is a sign of a severely underdeveloped sense of both ethics and civics.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Good thing that never happened. Reagan would almost certainly have been suffering from dementia in any third term.

I hope the meme that we'd all be better off if the two-party system failed never dies. It's a pretty funny one.

The DNC and RNC are not the end all be all of both parties. Well, at least the RNC isn't or Trump would never have gotten the nomination.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

I don't think the GND is necessarily the boondoggle people claim it to be I think there's a worthy compromise buried in that legislature certainly. we should/could at the very least consider revamping our agriculture system so as to reap the collective benefits of a cheaper and more efficient food supply in the face of steadily rising food prices.

Beyond that I'm big on infrastructure spending currently as I feel we're long overdue for a national overhaul.

This right here is what the dems were banking on with this completely idiotic law, a law so fucking poorly written it received 0 yes votes.

You talk about how it's got good ideas buried in it probably, but then you indicate that you actually really have no idea what's in it. So... you just like the name, and what it symbolizes to you, personally. That's what the dems want. That fuzzy, nonspecific "green" policy that shows hey, they're trying to do something, right?

This is why the republicans forced the dems to vote on it. It's complete and utter shit, and they would have pretended to be behind it and all the vague things it symbolizes to people like you. People vulnerable to well marketed big ideas that are never meant to be looked into.

Essentially, this is a child's crayon drawing titled "The solution to everything bad". The dems want to say "The republicans are against a solution to everything bad!" Except, at least a child's crayon drawing doesn't request the entire fucking economy be dismantled.

Sorry for jumping on you, but what you're saying really struck a nerve with me because it's a perfect encapsulation of what other left leaning people I know say and do about this. You know few specifics, but are confident enough to claim the ridiculous stuff isn't actually true. You excuse the nonsense away claiming there's a core of good policy without being at all specific, probably because you haven't read it and don't know of any good policy in it (There isn't any).

And finally, here's the important part, it costs more money than exists. It's so outrageously bad that even if congress 100% wanted to implement it, there isn't enough money in the fucking world to do it. Which, obviously, even the dems realize, including cortex herself, because they accused republicans of pulling a stunt by calling a vote on it.

I'm sure republicans wish the dems would pull that kind of stunt with the legislation they propose.