US "The Squad" Megathread - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib Derangement Syndrome

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I honestly only know about American politics from what I read on the Internet but since we all love shitting on leftists I figured we'd get a kick out of this. Also it's trending on Twitter so you know it's important.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...irect=on&noredirect=on&utm_term=.960552c9ba53

NEW YORK — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old political novice running on a low budget and an unabashedly liberal platform, upset longtime U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley on Tuesday in the Democratic congressional primary in New York.

The surprise victory by the community organizer in a district that includes parts of the Bronx and Queens came after an energetic, grassroots campaign that mustered more than enough support in a low-turnout race that many had expected to be an easy win for Crowley, a member of the Democratic House leadership.

“The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who has never held elected office and whose candidacy attracted only modest media attention.

She told The Associated Press after her victory that she didn’t have enough money to do polling in the race, but felt in her gut that her message had a chance to connect.

“I live in this community. I organized in this community. I felt the absence of the incumbent. I knew he didn’t have a strong presence,” she said.

Crowley has been in Congress since 1999 and hadn’t faced an opponent in a primary election since 2004, when Ocasio-Cortez was just a teenager. He was considered a candidate to become the next House speaker if Democrats win the majority.

“It’s not about me,” Crowley, 56, told his supporters at a campaign party following his loss. “It’s about America. I want nothing but the best for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez. I want her to be victorious.”

He later played guitar with a band at the election night gathering, and dedicated the first song, Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run,” to Ocasio-Cortez.

Crowley represents New York’s 14th Congressional District, where he is also the leader of the Queens Democratic party.

Ocasio-Cortez was outspent by an 18-1 margin during her race but won the endorsement of some influential groups on the party’s far left, including MoveOn, as well as the actress Cynthia Nixon, who is running for governor. She defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points.

Born in the Bronx to a mother from Puerto Rico and a father who died in 2008, Ocasio-Cortez said she decided to challenge Crowley to push a more progressive stance on economic and other issues.

She attended Boston University, where she earned degrees in economics and international relations, and also spent time working in the office of the late U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy.

After graduating, she returned to the Bronx where she became a community organizer. In the 2016 presidential campaign she worked for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Among her issues is expanding the Medicare program to people of all ages and abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. She recently went to Tornillo, Texas, to protest against policies that have separated parents from their children at the southern U.S. border.

Ocasio-Cortez gained some internet attention for a campaign video called “The Courage to Change,” a two-minute spot for which she wrote the script and featured footage from her own home.

Crowley is chair of the House Democratic Caucus, the fourth-highest ranking position in Democratic leadership in that chamber of Congress.

His loss drew the attention of President Donald Trump.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!” he tweeted.

The Republican candidate for the office, Anthony Pappas, is running unopposed and had no primary. Pappas teaches economics at St. John’s University.
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She was a Bernie campaigner, is supported by BLM, and wants to abolish Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Also this was in a solid-blue Congressional District so you know she's a shoo-in for next Congress.

But hey, we did get to see Trump laugh at Crowley on Twitter.
 
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Tard Baby said:
President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Vice President Beto O'rouke
Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton.
Secretary of Treasury: Bernie Sanders.
Secretary of Energy: Jill Stein.
Secretary of Education: Celine Dion.
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Secretary of Defense: Tulsi
 
Gone_Fission said:
One of the nice side benefits of legalizing and expanding hemp farming is that hempseed oil can be converted into biodiesel, and the stalks can be fermented into ethanol. Plus, the seeds produce the most amount of protein per acre of any crop
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I'd like to see your source for that, particularly the protein aspect. My feel is that hemp seed wouldn't even be in the same league as soybeans or dry edible beans. I could be wrong, but I'd like to see your source on that....
 
Dracula's Spirit Animal said:
I'd like to see your source for that, particularly the protein aspect. My feel is that hemp seed wouldn't even be in the same league as soybeans or dry edible beans. I could be wrong, but I'd like to see your source on that....
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Hmm after looking further into it the only place I see that statistic is from a wikipedia page for edible protein per acre, but the source for that is an article from a soybean research council, so I guess take it with a grain of salt.
 
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Prompt Critical said:
This is obviously a big part of the problem. However, it's clearly not the whole picture. One of the reasons HFCS is pointed to as SATAN SUGAR is because there's a large disparity in obesity rates between the USA (which as you said uses HFCS almost exclusively as a sweetner because it's artificially cheap due to production subsidies) and European and East Asian countries that are similarly sedentary but use cane sugar instead. I tend to think this is misdiagnosing the problem. There's a good deal of circumstantial evidence that ethnicities without a long-term history of agriculture have a lower tolerance for high-carbohydrate diets, as a specific reason for why obesity in more prevalent in the USA than European or East Asian countries.

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Not to say that white people and east asians can't be fat too (a quick visit to Beauty Parlour should be enough to dispel anyone who thinks that), but the typical US diet and lifestyle seems to be a lot rougher on some ethnic groups than others.
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Have you seen the differences in portion size between meals in the US and those in continental Europe?

As for certain ethnicities tending more towards obesity than others, there was a big hunt for obesity related genes in them for years that turned up very little (although they did discover some epigenetic factors related to obesity). It's not impossible but it's looking more and more likely it's due to culture or psychology than a more thrifty metabolism.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
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Oh goody, I do hope we're in for a whiny twitter rant about how Laughing Conservative Bad. She may be the most thin-skinned motherfucker elected to office in modern times (which is pretty amazing considering she's coming just after Obama), the chances of her bitching about this publicly in a bid for sympathy actually seem quite high.
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
Have you seen the differences in portion size between meals in the US and those in continental Europe?
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The average adult caloric intake per day in the USA is not much different from countries like Austria, Ireland, the UK and Italy (difference of ~2-8% max depending on which source you believe). All of these countries have obesity rates roughly on par with the US white average. It's possible that's just a weird series of coincidences, but I have not seen a more plausible explanation for this phenomenon.
 
Prompt Critical said:
The average adult caloric intake per day in the USA is not much different from countries like Austria, Ireland, the UK and Italy (difference of ~2-8% max depending on which source you believe). All of these countries have obesity rates roughly on par with the US white average. It's possible that's just a weird series of coincidences, but I have not seen a more plausible explanation for this phenomenon.
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2-8% can absolutely make a difference in weight loss though. Stop drinking soda and you'll likely drop some pounds, albeit slowly, and that's around 120-200 kcal per can depending on the brand.

Strange that they'd be eating less yet have nearly the same obesity rates though...
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
Strange that they'd be eating less yet have nearly the same obesity rates though...
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Maybe obesity is counted like heavyweight, anyone over 200lbs is a heavyweight, though I don't think those numbers are correct.

Obesity:

US:
  • 37.9% of men are obese
  • 41.5% of women are obese.
Austria:
  • 13.4% of men are obese
  • 10.7% of women are obese.
Ireland:
  • 25.8% of men are obese
  • 21.3% of women are obese.
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland:
  • between 25-30% for both genders
Italy:
  • ~25% for both genders(equality!)
Going to morbid obesity though, the deathfats, a category with no upper ceiling:

US:
  • 6.0% of men
  • 10.1% of women
Austria:
  • 1.4% of men
  • 2.0% of women
Ireland:
  • 2.2% of men
  • 3.9% of women
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland:
  • no data according to this site(ncdrich.org), a bit strange
Italy:
  • 0.7% of men
  • 1.5% of women
There's also the category of severe obesity but I'm not going into that, the site I'm looking at sucks ass to use. Average caloric intake in the US alone have gone up from ~2,400-2,600kcal per day in 1961 to more than 3,600kcal per day in 2001-2003. That's similar to Italy, Ireland and Austria in recent times, but remember that unlike the other brackets there's no upper limit on that calorie intake, 3,650kcal and 15,000kcal is counted the same and by looking at the obesity and morbid obesity rates I suspect that those countries leans towards the lower end of that.
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
Have you seen the differences in portion size between meals in the US and those in continental Europe?
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Europeans dont eat out so much and look for something different when eating out.
Its more of a social event and less just getting food.

Prompt Critical said:
One of the reasons HFCS is pointed to as SATAN SUGAR is because there's a large disparity in obesity rates between the USA (which as you said uses HFCS almost exclusively as a sweetner because it's artificially cheap due to production subsidies) and European and East Asian countries that are similarly sedentary but use cane sugar instead.
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  1. No Europeans arent similarly sedentary, Walking is pretty normal in Europe and Citys are build for walking, not for cars.
  2. Europe has alot of Local sugar from beets(but there is no difference to Cane Sugar)

Prompt Critical said:
here's a good deal of circumstantial evidence that ethnicities without a long-term history of agriculture have a lower tolerance for high-carbohydrate diets, as a specific reason for why obesity in more prevalent in the USA than European or East Asian countries.
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That wouldnt explain the High Latino Numbers, Spaniards and Indians had a high-Carb way before most other Europeans. also English should be realy realy terrible fat since they cant grow shit on their stupid island but have plenty of fish.
 
Jigglyjogglers said:
Well when your entire country is the size of an American shopping mall this is feasible to do.
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People who've never been to America have a hard time grasping just how geography makes the "standard" Euro solution to some problems impossible even if we WANTED it.

They don't get there are areas as big as Belgium without any organized local law enforcement below county level, for example.

Or that most places aren't developed enough to have even a bus route, let alone commuter rail.
 
TowinKarz said:
People who've never been to America have a hard time grasping just how geography makes the "standard" Euro solution to some problems impossible even if we WANTED it.

They don't get there are areas as big as Belgium without any organized local law enforcement below county level, for example.

Or that most places aren't developed enough to have even a bus route, let alone commuter rail.
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I once talked to a Brit that was flabbergasted that I drove over 60 miles to go to school. That's considered a major outing there apparently.
 
Tard Baby said:
President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Vice President Beto O'rouke
Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton.
Secretary of Treasury: Bernie Sanders.
Secretary of Energy: Jill Stein.
Secretary of Education: Celine Dion.
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Not even in an alternate universe.

Haven't read the entire thread, but every time I think AOC cannot say something more stupid than the last time, I am proven wrong. Did this child ever study American history? Has she ever picked up any book other than a coloring book? To say the GOP made an Amendment to keep FDR from being re-elected was almost beyond comprehension, it was so stupid.

This child is the national laughingstock. Her associates, Omar and Tlaib, have done more to hurt Islam in the USA than anything since 9-11. They exemplify the stereotype many people have of Muslims. Omar and Tlaib are not Representatives who happen to be Muslim, they are Muslim Representatives. BIG difference.

As an aside, by their pronouncements and actions these three critters have wrecked their ability to work with the Administration on any serious, non-routine issue affecting a constituent/constituents. A big part of a Senator/Representative's job. Staffs can handle routine things. Their phone calls don't get returned, are not taken in the first place, or are slow-rolled. Same thing with letters. They are likely to have a difficult time getting on anyone's calendar, and forget even trying to get on the President's calendar. The bridges have already been burned. These critters want to show how cute and how smart they are. They've long since been owned, to the detriment of their constituents.
 
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