The Square Enix Griefing Thread

TVBForever said:
At least E.T. was more remembered for being unfinished and rushed to the public for a Christmas season just to capitalize the actual movie itself. Forspoken won't be as remembered in about 30 or so years because it's fucking boring.
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The meme might last long enough for people to wonder.
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TVBForever said:
If Squeenix luckily survives (albeit only with their FF and Dragon Quest shit IPs left), then they'll go the same way as Konami and sell Vegas-esque gambling slots.
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What are you fucking talking about. Konami has been a big player in the slots business for decades (it turns out that slot machines and arcade cabinets were both a logical offshoot of Konami's original jukebox repair business) while Square hasn't ever been involved in that sort of stuff. S-E also owns way more than just FF and DQ.
 
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TVBForever said:
If Squeenix luckily survives (albeit only with their FF and Dragon Quest shit IPs left), then they'll go the same way as Konami and sell Vegas-esque gambling slots.
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People are disagreeing with you but I actually agree.

Square was paying a studio to make Forspoken for nearly seven years and it was made up of the people who took nearly nine years before that to make Final Fantasy 15 - which released on top of the bones of a different title and was only like 70% complete at launch (and still is).

It isn't really about IPs or licensing, but Square absolutely cannot survive if they cannot get developers to make good products or products in a somewhat timely fashion and they will not survive if they keep pouring profits from good products (FFXIV, Dragon Quest, FFXVI hopefully) to prop up entire shitty teams for literal decades.

They absolutely need to scale down productions and focus on core, quality, and high speed products or they are in real severe trouble and that's probably why they are pushing to change the CEO.
 
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Tanner Glass said:
People are disagreeing with you but I actually agree.

Square was paying a studio to make Forspoken for nearly seven years and it was made up of the people who took nearly nine years before that to make Final Fantasy 15 - which released on top of the bones of a different title and was only like 70% complete at launch (and still is).

It isn't really about IPs or licensing, but Square absolutely cannot survive if they cannot get developers to make good products or products in a somewhat timely fashion and they will not survive if they keep pouring profits from good products (FFXIV, Dragon Quest, FFXVI hopefully) to prop up entire shitty teams for literal decades.

They absolutely need to scale down productions and focus on core, quality, and high speed products or they are in real severe trouble and that's probably why they are pushing to change the CEO.
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I agree wholeheartedly, which is exactly why I'm glad Forspoken exists in the first place: the one-two combination of a long ass development cycle and the pandering to woke foreigners leading to a cataclysmic bomb ought to put the fear of God into any corporate suit. This means whipping developers into shape to get a decent work cycle going like DQ's typical four year periods and to render the very thought of catering to rainbow haired fffffffaggots in america's west coast downright radioactive.

The other component is that all of the company's smaller projects have either been smash successes or turned a fine profit without breaking records, such as Trials of Mana hitting 1 million units while piggybacking off of DQ XI's customized unreal engine and the various HD2D games hitting way above their budget both financially and critically.

The bean counters have no choice but to acknowledge that this business model is superior and pursue it over whatever fever dream made them think Forspoken was a good idea. This is a rare Grand Cross alignment of what fans want, what developers want, and the money chasers seeing a way to make better cash coinciding.

On a side note, Front Mission and Actraiser being revived with remakes that seem to have done well thus far is another incentive for the company to dust off neglected IPs; this worked wonders for them reviving SaGa and Mana after FF15 bombed so the precedent is set.
 
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You know, after Marvel Avengers and Forspoken I cannot imagine the Japanese heads of the company feel too charitable about the western offices.

Especially after they decided to drop the only IP of theirs that actually did well, Hitman :story:THEY DROPPED HITMAN AND MADE FORSPOKEN LOL

If SE had a braincell left they would shutter every western office before they find themselves in Konami's shoes.
 
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A-Stump said:
You know, after Marvel Avengers and Forspoken I cannot imagine the Japanese heads of the company feel too charitable about the western offices.

Especially after they decided to drop the only IP of theirs that actually did well, Hitman :story:THEY DROPPED HITMAN AND MADE FORSPOKEN LOL

If SE had a braincell left they would shutter every western office before they find themselves in Konami's shoes.
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Don't forget to throw in the fact they sell Eidos/Crystal and their IPs (including Thief and Tomb Raider, in which Squeenix had massacred, and now Tomb Raider is getting worse and worse).
 
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TVBForever said:
Don't forget to throw in the fact they sell Eidos/Crystal and their IPs (including Thief and Tomb Raider, in which Squeenix had massacred, and now Tomb Raider is getting worse and worse).
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Nobody is going to fuck up my man Kain, right?

I don't think I could survive another Blood Omen 2-tier mistake.
 
X Prime said:
Nobody is going to fuck up my man Kain, right?

I don't think I could survive another Blood Omen 2-tier mistake.
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I think it's too late to say, as Embracer owns Eidos/Crystal since almost a year ago.
 
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