The Square Hut - Ukrainian mashup of Bumfights, IP2 and Fishtank

[basedman]

It's a party! everyone's having a good time. Tourists- you can un-clutch your pearls now

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

This thread makes me glad that I am not Ukrainian.

 

[DrunkenLemon]

This gives me an idea

 

[snowdunes]

This gives me an idea

The Kiwi Hut?

 

[scaruser52]

The Kiwi Hut?

@Null can we get this idea rolling where you’ll be taking Sam Hyde’s spot?

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

1. On the last season of Fishtank (with Burt) it did basically reach a point where they were bullying a homeless guy and also plying him with alcohol to the point of making him psychologically break.

Burt wasn't exactly homeless, no? not to mention the difference is he could still leave at any time. (obviously the grand prize bullshit is terrible and they shouldn't have done that)

1. Fishtank has already brought on several contestants who had severe, deep-seeded psychological issues and pushed them over the edge. Burt is a good example with his schizophrenia although apparently he personally deliberately stopped taking meds to make himself be weird. But they also had on people like Summer and some others who totally went off the deep end.

Summer was really the only other severely mentally ill person on the show besides Burt i'd argue. Season one, everyone had a tinge of the tism but who doesn't (Vance Schizo though was great), season 2 you could say Jimmy but he's seen to have gotten better, Rachel is married and has a home/good life, so I wouldn't knock her down too much. freeloaders are different but I feel like it was worse in season 1 when they brought in 2 homeless black dudes on the show.

 

[neger psykolog]

Burt wasn't exactly homeless, no? not to mention the difference is he could still leave at any time. (obviously the grand prize bullshit is terrible and they shouldn't have done that)

I wasn't talking about Burt just saying it the season with Burt. The homeless guy they were bullying was the one who kept drinking liquor and begging for cigarettes and sperging about "fuck around find out" or some shit like that. And he was a legit homeless guy who they were plying with liquor. He ended up getting kicked out because he stole luke's ID documents from the van or some shit in Las Vegas and I don't think anything has been heard of him since then (they ditched him in Vegas)
They had a night where Frank Hassle and Jobe were really pushing and fucking with him to the extent he was basically crying.

I noticed more than a few people had an issue with that evening in particular since although "he can leave whenever he wants" he was a homeless guy who you're plying with liquor while also torturing for entertainment.

Your comparison is vile. CSAM and animal torture videos are objectively wrong, there is no ambiguity about it.

This is akin to bumfights, albeit a more extreme ukranian version.

I understand your opinion of square hut is based on moral fag posts and articles, but all I'd like is for you to stop shitting up the thread with your hysterical posts. Thanks bud

It's a party! everyone's having a good time. Tourists- you can un-clutch your pearls now

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My comparison is apt - I've been on k-farms for ages so I'm not a "thread tourist" and besides the implication of that being wrong in the first place the entire first few pages are filled with people expressing pretty much the same sentiment that I did: this entire concept/show is alarming, pretty much illegal, distasteful and just plain wrong on so many levels.

I've created threads for numerous other things that left people simply "unable to know how to react".

The only reason I didn't pearl clutch earlier is that I had moral reservations about giving this show more attention in the first place. I will post how I like to about this sort of thing - I don't see how it is different to people reacting to stories about people who are zoosadists etc, the people running this operation are deplorable people and the people who watch this for "genuine entertainment" I'm not sure how to classify just yet - Jackass the TV show at least had them getting paid tons and high on painkillers and the like, whereas these guys are locked away and forced into things. I see a problem with that even if you do not.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

expressing pretty much the same sentiment that I did: this entire concept/show is alarming, pretty much illegal, distasteful and just plain wrong on so many levels.

Everyone shat on me when I warned against mirroring the "sex scenes" on KF because we'd then effectively be hosting rape videos, but many of the thread regulars here are imo a bit sus anyways.

I don't see how it is different to people reacting to stories about people who are zoosadists

This thread really is different from e.g. the million pity thread, where it's taken for granted that we're not reuploading monkey torture videos. Also quite a few users in here really enjoying the show a bit too much.

 

[SaltyButter]

I will say that the part I saw was just a random old lady with no neck taking lines, then 2 dudes in matching shirts did a slap fight for a while, and the loser of the slap fight got a wooden board slap on the buttocks for punishment or something. I didnt know they are "trapped" there and behind cages and cant leave until I got tagged, I laughed at what I saw and I will not accept that I am some sort of degenerate for laughing at a silly slap fight. The rapes and whatever else I had no idea about. Obviously if everything alleged is true I would never have watched it at all if i had known.

But I do feel its unfair to have a complete crash out on someone who just saw something with no context. Taking it a bit too far to go on for pages about how awful everyone is if we are not immediately repulsed. Not everyone has read 30 pages of this thread like you did. Get a grip.

 

[PalomaAttano]

what the hell is that lmao

 

[neger psykolog]

But I do feel its unfair to have a complete crash out on someone who just saw something with no context. Taking it a bit too far to go on for pages about how awful everyone is if we are not immediately repulsed. Not everyone has read 30 pages of this thread like you did. Get a grip.

idk I left open the window that people weren't fully aware or just didn't know how to react to something like this:

I am a tiny bit forgiving of people like this:
Just because I don't think they fully comprehend the disturbing nature of what exactly they're watching - people who are physically trapped somewhat and abused at the behest of people who pay online for this shit.
I think we've all stumbled onto things online/offline that we just don't know how to react to and sometimes people will find things funny - but make no mistake about it, this shit is not "AMAZING and entertaining lmaooooo" unless you're the kind of person who watches kiddy porn, animal torture shit or people getting decapitated and liveleak sort of stuff. I understand watchpeopledie and liveleak fulfill a morbid curiosity that we all have but "the square hut" is monetized sadism that is wrong on just so many levels.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

Have all the good men of Ukraine been drafted and only the mentally disabled are left?

 

[Susan-O]

Thanks Josh for introducing me to this vile shit!

 

[basedman]

Interesting info I found today, don't think i've seen it mentioned:

"Karabas and Boss", owners/producers of square hut, is actually a registered Ukrainian company (registration code: 44240334)

It's in the name of Sorochenko Alla Antonivna. I'm guessing this is Artur's (Kvadrat) wife?

It says their area of business is organization of entertainment events, along with video/film production and distribution.



Everyone involved in this shit show IS deplorable and degenerate. The "actors" are terrible people, organizers are terrible people. Shocking, bewildering, and morbid content can be entertaining (does this really need to be said here like its bluesky). There's been nothing posted about it that's clearly illegal, as far as i can tell, or even THAT extreme. Frog lady having sex with the ghouls is rape? come the fuck on.

I don't really appreciate the violence, but there are funny moments. They make Krabs roll all the cigarettes, for example. It is certainly not even close to being the most fucked up shit on the Internet. Maybe i just hate Ukranians.

My comparison is apt - I've been on k-farms for ages so I'm not a "thread tourist" and besides the implication of that being wrong in the first place the entire first few pages are filled with people expressing pretty much the same sentiment that I did: this entire concept/show is alarming, pretty much illegal, distasteful and just plain wrong on so many levels.

I've created threads for numerous other things that left people simply "unable to know how to react".

The only reason I didn't pearl clutch earlier is that I had moral reservations about giving this show more attention in the first place. I will post how I like to about this sort of thing - I don't see how it is different to people reacting to stories about people who are zoosadists etc, the people running this operation are deplorable people and the people who watch this for "genuine entertainment" I'm not sure how to classify just yet - Jackass the TV show at least had them getting paid tons and high on painkillers and the like, whereas these guys are locked away and forced into things. I see a problem with that even if you do not.

Whatever you say, Mr. KF Veteran. Thank you for providing highlights of your resume, truly inspiring stuff.

 

[water with salt]

My understanding is that they sign a "contract" for a period of time. Make of that what you will, all we can do is guess. My guess is that they get a place to stay, food, smokes, drink, and drugs in exchange for not being able to leave and doing these "stunts," as they call them, for donos. Its possible they're paying off some debt.

We don't know the full extent of what's happening but from what we know, that they are somewhat physically stuck there for periods of time, on drugs, beaten off camera for not participating, and now this one is more speculation but probably coerced by debt, this is all considered trafficking level coercion by any trafficking victim advocacy group, and by law in many places. You can say you personally don't care about most trafficking victims because they're retarded junkie whores who don't realize they can just leave, and aren't literally tied down 24/7, but this level of coercion for sex or to perform painful or humiliating acts is considered unacceptable by most westerners, justifiably so. Even if the incentive was purely monetary, most western countries would ilegalize this just for being so violent.

 

[Tango Moon Star]

We don't know the full extent of what's happening but from what we know, that they are somewhat physically stuck there for periods of time, on drugs, beaten off camera for not participating, and now this one is more speculation but probably coerced by debt, this is all considered trafficking level coercion by any trafficking victim advocacy group, and by law in many places. You can say you personally don't care about most trafficking victims because they're retarded junkie whores who don't realize they can just leave, and aren't literally tied down 24/7, but this level of coercion for sex or to perform painful or humiliating acts is considered unacceptable by most westerners, justifiably so. Even if the incentive was purely monetary, most western countries would ilegalize this just for being so violent.

It’s not much worse then Jackass,Bum Fights or world star in general. And there has been very little real evidence to support all this moral fagging about it being legal to the point Null has already told people to stfu about it earlier in the thread.

 

[water with salt]

It’s not much worse then Jackass,Bum Fights or world star in general. And there has been very little real evidence to support all this moral fagging about it being legal to the point Null has already told people to stfu about it earlier in the thread.

Pretty funny that you care more about the ethics of "doing something Null doesn't like" than the ethics of a surface web red room.

Just get used to the moral fagging, conjecturing about the legality and morality of it is the obvious topic of discussion while we're on downtime from discussing which junkie is getting their knees skinned today lol. And I wasn't arguing that it's literally illegal, just that there is precedent for it in civilized countries and that's why most people from those countries are uncomfortable with it.

 

[Sammich]

why most people from those countries are uncomfortable with it.

If you are uncomfortable with it, it's simple, don't watch it. It's human debris being poked and prodded for our amusement. Nothing at all wrong with not watching, or being disturbed that shit happens, your virtue is noted and recorded. Trying to spin up outrage and getting it shut down goes against what kiwifarms stands for. This shit happens, it will continue to happen, might as well just ignore it if you can.

surface web red room.

You have no idea what a "red room" is. The idea this is being done against their will is just conjecture, no one really knows.

 

[water with salt]

If you are uncomfortable with it, it's simple, don't watch it. It's human debris being poked and prodded for our amusement. Nothing at all wrong with not watching, or being disturbed that shit happens, your virtue is noted and recorded. Trying to spin up outrage and getting it shut down goes against what kiwifarms stands for. This shit happens, it will continue to happen, might as well just ignore it if you can.

I will once again reiterate that I was simply presenting a viewpoint on a forum to discuss this, because I found the discussion interesting, IDK why you keep making it more personal. Your cool and nonchalant attitude has been noted though.

You have no idea what a "red room" is.

It was a joke you autist lol.

The idea this is being done against their will is just conjecture

I was presenting the case that the coercion we do see already counts as trafficking level coercion by anti trafficking groups: drugs, beatings when refusing to participate, some kind of physical, even if not absolute, impediment to leaving like a locked door. This is barely up for debate, but feel free to disagree with those groups on what counts as immoral coercion, many people do.

Edit: I didn't realize you were a different person to Tango Moon Stars that I was replying to before, sorry if anything sounds off because of that.

 

[Sammich]

I was simply presenting a viewpoint on a forum to discuss this, because I found the discussion interesting, IDK why you keep making it more personal.

I wasn't trying to make it personal at all, was my first response in here in a pretty good while. I wasn't really talking to you, I was talking more the folks that do seem to want it shut down. I do wish we had a bit more backstory though, I wonder how differently people would feel if this was legit criminals being punished. (I have heard that mentioned more than once)

Edit: I didn't realize you were a different person to Tango Moon Stars that I was replying to before, sorry if anything sounds off because of that.

All good there, I just made a comment about the back and forth since the feature. Or that's what I meant to do.