The Stop Drinking (or using other substances) thread - Hello, my name is "kiwi farmer", and I am an alcoholic.

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Hey, I wish you nothing but the best.
There's also a documentary I had seen that really helps me keep off booze myself. It's about a fan of a now defunct radio show, Opie and Anthony. Her name is Lady Di, and she is an alcoholic, which had cost her jobs, her kid, and her home. At one point she was homeless, begging for change and having sex with other hobos for booze. She got back on her feet, and at one point did an internship for the radio show, which she was paid, and mugged for when she went to a chicken fast food joint in the bad part of town. In the end, the drink took her brain, and she had gotten dementia, and is currently in a nursing home.

Spoiler: Video

Everyday he use to buttfuck me in his hatchback

Or something like that...I loved that doc

My 2 cents: Quitters never win, and winners never quit.

But good luck all those trying to better themselves

 

[L50LasPak]

durr i have a drinking problem and weed addiction

I'm literally going to the store right now to buy several 40oz steele reserves and four lokos and gallons of water, SOLELY because you made this thread. I've been sober for 6 years, jackass, congrats on forcing me to relapse. You truly are a @mindlessobserver

Glad we could help.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You're tellin me brother.


I felt this way, once upon a time. It turned out the health problems from drinking myself to death every night ended up manifesting sooner rather than later. If you really hate yourself and really like getting fucked up, you'll hit that trainwreck stage in record time.


This, however, I totally agree with. I think the way we treat people who get sober is unproductive. To the point where when I'm speaking with friends or family and mention to them that I'm still not drinking anymore, they're always quick to congratulate me or tell me to be proud of that fact. I always refuse, because in my opinion I shouldn't be congratulated for something other people can do just fine.

I've watched many a drinker trade in their alcohol addiction for an asspat addiction, only for them to hit the bottle the instant the latter loses its luster. I've even watched one or two do this multiple times, right up until their deaths. If you're going to stay sober, your sobriety can't be mostly supported by other people. Its just not practical, because once those people go home, or you turn off the computer for the night, or you find yourself trying to focus on work, all common situations, your desire to drink will return and there won't be anyone around to tell you "Don't do it bro!". You have to stay sober for yourself first, or perhaps stay sober for the people who depend on you. You can't stay sober for the people you depend on though, I never actually seen it happen.

I do agree with this, though I think like most kiwis I am an largely very private person who tries to minimize my social media exposure in general. My motivation is pretty much internal. I've come to realize to my detriment how costly this habit has been for me. And I have also met people further down the road then I am presently. It's not pretty. I think intellectually I knew going through half a liter of bourbon on my day off is not normal, but the amount of self delusion that can go into that is crazy. I.e., sure its bad, but I know a guy who drinks an ENTIRE liter of bourbon on their day off!

 

[trent]

Hey, I wish you nothing but the best.
There's also a documentary I had seen that really helps me keep off booze myself. It's about a fan of a now defunct radio show, Opie and Anthony. Her name is Lady Di, and she is an alcoholic, which had cost her jobs, her kid, and her home. At one point she was homeless, begging for change and having sex with other hobos for booze. She got back on her feet, and at one point did an internship for the radio show, which she was paid, and mugged for when she went to a chicken fast food joint in the bad part of town. In the end, the drink took her brain, and she had gotten dementia, and is currently in a nursing home.

Spoiler: Video

Nobody seems to know if she's still alive and the last reports were that her brain was so fucked that she thought she was in the navy rather than a nursing home.

The highlight of her internship was her shitting at the Sirius XM studios with the stall door open only for the girl from Ugly Betty to walk in on her.

 

[Stoneheart]

whats up with you americans beeing alcoholics? Is it the bad gene stock, or starting late?

 

[DeadFish]

I dont drink. Either you are genetically prone to drinking or prone going dry

Im the latter.

I will say get new friends and more natural ways to get your kicks. You might be drinking cause its the only time ya social

whats up with you americans beeing alcoholics? Is it the bad gene stock, or starting late?

Its dependence on grog.

 

[SBG]

whats up with you americans beeing alcoholics? Is it the bad gene stock, or starting late?

It's more annoying for kids to get their hands on it so when they do they binge drink. As they get older they're still used to drinking a fuck ton on the odd times they get to and you end up with an unhealthy drinking habit.

 

[Dan Abrams]

Where can you get four lokos still? Haven't seen one in ten years.

I see them all the time at gas stations. They just don't have caffeine in them anymore. The other day I felt like being a hobo so I drank one for old time's sake, candy apple 4loko revolting as always but gets the job done for cheap.

This thread is now about NOT stopping drinking and continuing to drink all the time despite all the bad things it causes in your life.

 

[Solid Snek]

whats up with you americans beeing alcoholics? Is it the bad gene stock, or starting late?

Starting late, I think. Drinking is strictly verboten for people under 21. Of course, teens still do it anyways, and like SBG says, whenever an American teen gets unsupervised access to booze, they invariably wind up binge drinking. You aren't supposed to do it, you've almost never done it before and are also a stupid teen so your judgement is shit, and God knows when your parents will be out of town for the weekend again, so there's a ton of pressure to make the most of the opportunity.

My understanding is that Europeans actually drink more than Americans, but yeah, Americans are more likely to be "problem drinkers" / alcoholics, and I'm pretty sure it's largely due to how American kids get introduced to booze.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Ironically I stopped drinking when I turned 21. I realized I just did it because I thought it was cool to break the rules and do I quit.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I see them all the time at gas stations. They just don't have caffeine in them anymore. The other day I felt like being a hobo so I drank one for old time's sake, candy apple 4loko revolting as always but gets the job done for cheap.

This thread is now about NOT stopping drinking and continuing to drink all the time despite all the bad things it causes in your life.

I remember when they were talking about pulling original recipe off the shelves. Back then I didn't despise the government like I do but I still didn't think the government had the right to pull a product just bc it was "too good" at its job.

We started discussing it at the local pizza joint I was working at and one of the guys also did weekends at a liquor store so he had the hookup. The group thought was "well how bad can it be". So one night once we locked the shop we sat down and pulled three pallets of OG Four Loko out of the supply fridge. I was just finishing my third when somebody was like "Dong what is wrong with your face!?" and I was like WTF you mean?

Step into the bathroom and I'm blotchy in the face like I had been rubbing poison oak on myself. Then it hits me. I am wide awake fucked up. Like I feel the "you are no longer in control of your body" that comes before a blackout but I'm not falling asleep. I'm just trapped in my own head as my motor functions deteriorate. It was terrifying. One of the worst hangovers ever the next day too.

Turns out the government was right to pull that shit. Death in a can. Haven't had it since they reformulated it so I might check it out.

 

[Dan Abrams]

I remember when they were talking about pulling original recipe off the shelves. Back then I didn't despise the government like I do but I still didn't think the government had the right to pull a product just bc it was "too good" at its job.

We started discussing it at the local pizza joint I was working at and one of the guys also did weekends at a liquor store so he had the hookup. The group thought was "well how bad can it be". So one night once we locked the shop we sat down and pulled three pallets of OG Four Loko out of the supply fridge. I was just finishing my third when somebody was like "Dong what is wrong with your face!?" and I was like WTF you mean?

Step into the bathroom and I'm blotchy in the face like I had been rubbing poison oak on myself. Then it hits me. I am wide awake fucked up. Like I feel the "you are no longer in control of your body" that comes before a blackout but I'm not falling asleep. I'm just trapped in my own head as my motor functions deteriorate. It was terrifying. One of the worst hangovers ever the next day too.

Turns out the government was right to pull that shit. Death in a can. Haven't had it since they reformulated it so I might check it out.

Worst hangovers of my life on 4loko, and I’m a drunk so I don’t even really get hangovers. The caffeine, alcohol, and the fact that each can is 700 calories of pure sugar made OG 4loko probably literally worse for you than meth.

 

[Goyslop Muncher]

you could always recreate those magical nights with some caffeine powder and a couple 'lokos

 

[Dan Abrams]

you could always recreate those magical nights with some caffeine powder and a couple 'lokos

I've been tempted to, but although I'm a degenerate I'm not 21 years old anymore so I might actually die.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I don't think I'm going to stop drinking but I'm taking a break at the moment at the very least. I haven't been getting fucked up drunk but I have been going through a six pack a night every night for a few weeks and I just need to stop.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Either you are genetically prone to drinking or prone going dry.

There's a corollary to that; by being either a lightweight, or having a natural resistance/tolerance to drugs and/or alcohol. I forget which enzymes or systems are responsible for regulating it, but most notably it manifests in populations like the Inuit (iirc), who can't handle *any* alcohol without becoming dangerously drunk... and then there's Russians.

Unfortunately; my own bloodline is riddled with slavic genes, and I've never been able to drink enough that'd result in an aversion-therapy hangover, that wouldn't also result in poisoning. The limiting factor now is just my liver, however much longer that holds out.

 

[Stoneheart]

It's more annoying for kids to get their hands on it so when they do they binge drink. As they get older they're still used to drinking a fuck ton on the odd times they get to and you end up with an unhealthy drinking habit.

thats sound right, but Europeans youth binge drink alot too. 15 year old black out drunks are pretty common at local fairs or football games, or what ever occasion they can find. nobody asks for Id.

My understanding is that Europeans actually drink more than Americans, but yeah, Americans are more likely to be "problem drinkers" / alcoholics, and I'm pretty sure it's largely due to how American kids get introduced to booze.

maybe.

There's a corollary to that; by being either a lightweight, or having a natural resistance/tolerance to drugs and/or alcohol. I forget which enzymes or systems are responsible for regulating it, but most notably it manifests in populations like the Inuit (iirc), who can't handle *any* alcohol without becoming dangerously drunk... and then there's Russians.

that has nothing to do with addiction.
the later an ethnic group got in contact the more addicts they have.

There are some cultures that have been drinkign alcohol for a long time but are still super lightweight while not having high addiction numbers(asia)

 

[TheRetardKing]

I can't even drink for god sakes, lol.

 

[UncleFezziesPantsPuppet]

So @mindlessobserver, have have you been man?

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

The only good thing to come out of covid was I ramped up my drug and alcohol abuse to the point I almost ended up shitposting in hell. Now I'm coming up on 6 months clean and feel a fuck of a lot better. I don't miss hangervers or missing out on stuff because I was on some combination of drugs that made me erratic. The only thing I really miss is weed but I know it will just lead me back to doing the other shit. Another user said get hobbies. I can't agree more. At least try meetings. They are kind of gay but I met a good group of friends there that I regularly hang out with. If you keep hanging around people who use you'll end up using too. Get help if you're struggling with this. It's no joke.