The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[justhereforments]

It does the defense's job - instills reasonable doubt.

I mean, that's been done NUMEROUS TIMES ALREADY, but more of that isn't exactly gonna hurt Chauvin's case.

If the prosecution was any good they'd have come back on redirect and used the same recording to ask "Isn't it possible Floyd, being in fear of the police, claimed "I ain't do any drugs" ?

Reasonable doubt destroyed, fear of those damn, evil huwite cops who kill black bois who dindu nuffin established. The prosecution seems to be a bit sub-par though.

Edit: Nevermind, on catching up it seems they did do this.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Pretty tame considering he's said "Pussy" and "Fuck" multiple times before.

It's the little things, man.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Well that and they're probably also reasonably fearful of being personally murdered by apes. On top of their family home getting burned down. This is why they should have granted a change of venue. Every single juror more or less admitted they were already tainted and biased during voir dire. At least moving the case to St. Paul (or preferably even further away) would have avoided the worst of this.

Give all major trials to the Eskimos of those Alaskin fishing colonies, imo. They will be 100 not biased and will be excited just to have something to do.

 

[Buttfuck McGee Returns]

Which autopsy was she involved in

Afaik neither, but apparently she trained the guy who did the KNEE DEATH one

 

[HerrKlicks]

Which autopsy was she involved in

At the moment it seems she's involved with her own after that dicking from Nelson...

 

[AnOminous]

Man you can really tell the nig prosecutor was pissed his Abraham Lincoln comparison got overruled, and sustained. I bet he had that one sitting in his head the entire time Nelson was questioning her.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. I am almost suspicious any time I see a judge giving procedural wins to one side all the time. You know what the absolute worst thing you can hear from a judge is? If they compliment your brief. You are about to get ass fucked and the judge is lubing you up.

 

[aussiejinjo]

what exactly was the 'full nelson' you guys are talking about, what happened back there

reddit appears to be wound up like a 1000 day clock

one more half turn and they'll spring their sprockets all over the internet

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

A bit late, but god damn was she not prepared for those questions. Also, fuck that prosecutor acting like a bitch because of a couple of hypothetical questions.
Nelson is pretty transparently getting under their skin at this point.

 

[Łimønča]

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A fucking book deal?!

Just declare a fucking mistrial and be done with it!

There is a 90-100% chance that a book will be released.

I told ya so.

 

[Buttfuck McGee Returns]

what exactly was the 'full nelson' you guys are talking about, what happened back there

reddit appears to be spinning its wheels

Nelson led her into acknowledging a paper that suggested in 3000 police-suspect prone restraints, 0 died, to which she had an absolute meltdown. WOW ISN'T THAT AMAZING THAT THE PAPER SAYS 0 YET EVERYONE I KNOW HAS SEEN IT HAPPEN

 

[Bill The Fucker]

Does the defense always go second? Seems like a massive last word advantage when it comes to bringing out expert witnesses.

 

[MooseGump]

A bit late, but god damn was she not prepared for those questions. Also, fuck that prosecutor acting like a bitch because of a couple of hypothetical questions.
Nelson is pretty transparently getting under their skin at this point.

Not just them, but everyone's favorite

 

[JiggyJoe]

When you can't finish your analogies
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Not from america. What analogy was he supposed to make?

 

[The Nameless One]

I don't think the prosecution makes a good argument on redirect to counter Nelson's attempts to create reasonable doubt. What Nelsom is trying to do is point out, "Mr. Floyd looked like someone who died of positional asphyxia because of police restraint, but he also looked like someone who died because of a fentanyl overdose and having a shitty heart, so you can't say without reasonable doubt that the police definitely killed him." The prosecution's counter on redirect just feels like he's saying, "Are you kidding? We all SAW the video!" In the context of Nelson sowing doubt about whether the restraint necessarily asphyxiated Floyd, it seems like the prosecution is weak here.

Besides which, again, even if it is shown beyond reasonable doubt that it could only have been the restraint, that doesn't mean the use of force was unreasonable.

 

[aussiejinjo]

Nelson led her into acknowledging a paper that suggested in 3000 police-suspect prone restraints, 0 died, to which she had an absolute meltdown. WOW ISN'T THAT AMAZING THAT THE PAPER SAYS 0 YET EVERYONE I KNOW HAS SEEN IT HAPPEN

time stamp?

 

[Rykel22]

Does the defense always go second? Seems like a massive last word advantage when it comes to bringing out expert witnesses.

Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Throwing Romans]

Does the defense always go second? Seems like a massive last word advantage when it comes to bringing out expert witnesses.

In a way (from my drunken understanding) that's the point. We have a legal system in which the burden of proof is on the prosecution to present their case beyond a reasonable doubt, then the defense has the opportunity to poke holes in that case.

 

[draggs]

Does the defense always go second? Seems like a massive last word advantage when it comes to bringing out expert witnesses.

Prosecution gets to make its opening statement before the defense
Prosecution gets to make its closing statement after the defense
Prosecution literally gets to go first and last

 

[asr]

this whole trial seems like it's gonna be difficult for the prosecution to prove without a reasonable doubt that Derek was the cause of Floyd's death.

 

[AnOminous]

Does the defense always go second? Seems like a massive last word advantage when it comes to bringing out expert witnesses.

The party with the burden of proof goes first. In general, that's going to be the plaintiff or prosecution, unless something occurs that shifts the burden to the other party, or a specific kind of motion statutorily puts the burden on a party. For instance, in a "stand your ground" hearing in Florida, the defendant bears the burden of proof and therefore goes first.