The Tumblr Files - Official Thread (Case I: Steven Universe) - An exposé on the media and people that destroyed the Internet

I hope Deltarune doesn't go full homo-romance bullshit from SU and others mentioned here, as Kris does show attraction to Susie, and Noelle's crush is played for laughs, but maybe there won't be an answer to that until 2030 or so, or ever, blueballing shippers until the end of time.

I can't help but wonder if even Toby Fox himself will grow weary of the LGBTQ community and decide to stop pandering to them by the end of the 2020 decade.

Give me your rainbows.
 
I hope Deltarune doesn't go full homo-romance bullshit from SU and others mentioned here, as Kris does show attraction to Susie, and Noelle's crush is played for laughs, but maybe there won't be an answer to that until 2030 or so, or ever, blueballing shippers until the end of time.
I can't help but wonder if even Toby Fox himself will grow weary of the LGBTQ community and decide to stop pandering to them by the end of the 2020 decade.
I think a major factor would be shippers losing a lot of the power they currently have, cause a lot of games and especially shows are ruled with an iron fist by the shipping community. Some shows exist just to be lesbian shipping bait for the Tumblr refugees and not much else. So many online memes and the like have been created by said community, and it proves just how obsessed they are.
 
I hope Deltarune doesn't go full homo-romance bullshit from SU and others mentioned here, as Kris does show attraction to Susie, and Noelle's crush is played for laughs
Everything about Noelle/Susie feels like the second coming of Alphys/Undyne which already was a terrible pairing. And I don't even think its because of gay shipping reasons, Undyne just has no reason whatsoever to like, let alone love, somebody like fucking Alphys.
This is 100% Toby sticking out the easy bait of the nerd/jock pairing, except with extra lesbian flavor.
 
I can't help but wonder if even Toby Fox himself will grow weary of the LGBTQ community and decide to stop pandering to them
I don't think so, at least not in the near future, he built his very own damocles sword by bulding his career on pandering to queers & shippers, it just takes one wrong move, i guess that's the same reason why he is no longer active on forums & doesn't do much on social media
 
I can't help but wonder if even Toby Fox himself will grow weary of the LGBTQ community and decide to stop pandering to them by the end of the 2020 decade.

Give me your rainbows.
Maybe Mr. Fucks doesn't even know the layer of irony he is. He'll probably pull a Game of Thrones ending, or worse: A Song of Ice and Fire and never finish the story just to avoid controversies or some dumbshit.
 
It has that... annoying fucking progressive tone that shitlibs from 2010s were all over and I just can't fucking take it. I can't put it in words, but it's very hard to explain.
I believe "it insists upon itself" is the phrase you're looking for. A vague feeling you get when a piece of media already believes it's reputation precedes itself for it's themes or narrative and that it's more grandiose than it really is or should be. IDK, hard to explain it myself to but I know the feeling you're talking about.
 
I believe "it insists upon itself" is the phrase you're looking for. A vague feeling you get when a piece of media already believes it's reputation precedes itself for it's themes or narrative and that it's more grandiose than it really is or should be. IDK, hard to explain it myself to but I know the feeling you're talking about.
Perhaps? I was attempting to say the typical "lol quirky and random xd", while taking it with some professionalism and there isn't anyone just critiquing how fucking retarded this is and how a bunch of mindless drones praise it just because it is presented in a professional manner - akin to a very, very polished turd with flowers and soil. But you CAN'T ignore the fucking turd.
 
I don't think so, at least not in the near future, he built his very own damocles sword by bulding his career on pandering to queers & shippers, it just takes one wrong move, i guess that's the same reason why he is no longer active on forums & doesn't do much on social media
That brings up the possibility of Toby Fox succumbing to "Lindsey Ellis Syndrome", where he might get cancelled for not being woke enough.

Perhaps? I was attempting to say the typical "lol quirky and random xd", while taking it with some professionalism and there isn't anyone just critiquing how fucking retarded this is and how a bunch of mindless drones praise it just because it is presented in a professional manner - akin to a very, very polished turd with flowers and soil. But you CAN'T ignore the fucking turd.
I've taken notice, like with how the game's graphic design motif across social media, the website, and marketing materials only uses 8-bit white text on a black background, as a way to convey how mysterious it is, or give off the look of a prestige product. The fact that Toby has made some major connections with people like Shimomura, Zun, or even Itoi tells me that Toby wants to be seen as a major "prestige" game creator, held in that same regard.

Heck, there are traces of Undertale and especially Deltarune trying to sell itself as an epic grandiose RPG like a Final Fantasy or a Chrono Trigger. It's just that it's hidden underneath layers of MS Paint graphics, Internet-level humor, and gay Tumblr-era pandering.
 
I'd say the closest thing undertale innovated in outside of packing tumblr ideas into an easily digestible package for the masses while pandering to them would be mashing shmup elements with rpg mechanics. The whole not having to fight monsters was sorta done before with SMT's negotiation system which even had more meat on it's bones in the early snes days then the simple ACT system, illustrated by how none of the bosses can be mercy'd with it.

Instead the main focus and wow factor is directed towards the bullet dodging mechanics. I think this is best illustraited when Papyrus does the blue attack and turns the fight into a platformer of sorts. It adds character while also contributing to the whole deconstruction feel while also shaking things up without going into typcial rpg mechanics. Though, this sort of idea of enemy attacks having personality and being dodgeable is still done better in the Mario and Luigi rpgs with how you can actually see movements, while not having to cut down on shmup difficulty either.

Speaking of, an influnce for Tobby is clearly Zun and Touhou. Given how he's collabed with the man already it should be very much obvious with the inspiration. What is more interesting though is how it likely influcenced his obsession over lesbians. Due to it's cast utterly dominated by girls, it was one of the main influences on the whole Yuri scene in the Doujin space which is where a lot of nerds would've started getting off to that shit.
I hope Deltarune doesn't go full homo-romance bullshit from SU and others mentioned here, as Kris does show attraction to Susie, and Noelle's crush is played for laughs, but maybe there won't be an answer to that until 2030 or so, or ever, blueballing shippers until the end of time.
The only way this does happen is if Tobby makes Kris officially nb and does it to go further up the progressive stack in that way.
 
Perhaps? I was attempting to say the typical "lol quirky and random xd", while taking it with some professionalism and there isn't anyone just critiquing how fucking retarded this is and how a bunch of mindless drones praise it just because it is presented in a professional manner - akin to a very, very polished turd with flowers and soil. But you CAN'T ignore the fucking turd.
So, they put the game on to high of a pedestal largely because of its gimmicks, emotional heart tugging, pandering, and "humor" while disregarding it's true quality as a game and it's questionable messaging/narrative. To me, it always felt like Undertale had an undeserved spot as being one of the greats because of it's theming and gimmick despite it not really being THAT deep. I still believe it was the spectacle that carried the game the same way movie studios will heavily rely on CGI and large set pieces to give off the appearance of substance rather then having any.
 
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Maybe Mr. Fucks doesn't even know the layer of irony he is. He'll probably pull a Game of Thrones ending, or worse: A Song of Ice and Fire and never finish the story just to avoid controversies or some dumbshit.
Deltarune started as a (literal) fever dream of a videogame ending, he had this dream before he even made undertale, he's always known how it ends
 
Everything about Noelle/Susie feels like the second coming of Alphys/Undyne which already was a terrible pairing. And I don't even think its because of gay shipping reasons, Undyne just has no reason whatsoever to like, let alone love, somebody like fucking Alphys.
This is 100% Toby sticking out the easy bait of the nerd/jock pairing, except with extra lesbian flavor.
Oh, Alphys, the guy (because I took him for a guy at first, and he's a guy in all but name, but apparently it was retconned at the last second for a lesbian couple), is fucking disgusting, doing all kinds of shady shit and barely being punished despite that. She's also a spiteful bitch since she intentionally sabotaged Metatton's body as to not be too good to mess up a tranny, funnily enough.

That brings up the possibility of Toby Fox succumbing to "Lindsey Ellis Syndrome", where he might get cancelled for not being woke enough.
A Notch effect like Minecraft? Might happen sooner or later.

The only way this does happen is if Tobby makes Kris officially nb and does it to go further up the progressive stack in that way

I am pretty sure he did that. During some event where people were playing the game, he kept correcting them when they called Kris a he. At least, that's what I read on /v/.
Kris is supposed to be an ugly blob like Frisk, but unlike Frisk he actually looks more like a guy and lusts after a woman, so he's a guy for sure, the "they" being used because of progressivism and incorrect English language (it could be worse, Citizen Sleeper committed the terrible sin of having MULTIPLE "they"s in a room and of course not specifying on who's who when 'they' talk, kek).
 
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I can already tell Case IV is gonna be a massive undertaking. Got a lot of footage to shift through.
 
So, they put the game on to high of a pedestal largely because of its gimmicks, emotional heart tugging, pandering, and "humor" while disregarding it's true quality as a game and it's questionable messaging/narrative. To me, it always felt like Undertale had an undeserved spot of being one of the greats because of it's theming and gimmick despite it not really be THAT deep. I still believe it was the spectacle that carried the game the same way movie studios will heavily rely on CGI and large set pieces to give of the appearance of substance rather then having any.
Ah, awesome - we are at the same page. Apologies about the "doubt" before. Regardless, there's that. I will admit, if I had to have a "vision" of a game like it, I wouldn't be able to do it. I like the goat family more than anything - a traditional marriage that was ruined by Asriel's death (and this is why I want to know who Chara is). I don't care about the other monsters, especially the shit eating grin named Sans.

Deltarune started as a (literal) fever dream of a videogame ending, he had this dream before he even made undertale, he's always known how it ends
Damn, Deltarune is looking promising since it's exploring the world further (even if it is an Alternate or Parallel Universe - a concept I hate it because fans make it insufferable). If it is "JUST A DREAM" everything will go tits up and will deserve the moniker "Deltatroon". And Toby will have confirmed his kike status to me.
 
Acestar the 3rd, another example, even changed his profile picture to Asgore after he played the game, and later came out as gay that year.
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What an unapologetic way to phrase it, it got a genuine chuckle out of me. Your series needs to get featured at some point, you have a real knack for writing.
 
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