The UnMaking of an SJW - What prompts people to leave the cult behind?

[Terminus Est]

Easiest way to unmake them and make them normal again is forcing them to get off Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr and forcing them to go out into the real world where reality is.

 

[AF 802]

I almost got into that shit a tiny bit when I turned 21. Then I found Kiwi Farms and realized that everyone's a fascist, even if you're generally left wing even a tiny bit. These types consider anyone who disagrees with the PC argument, even if it's like an old guard Democrat, is the same as wanting Jews killed to these types.

SJWs won't consider anything left enough to satisfy them. Educating yourself about the evils of anarchism and communism would help a lot, considering these types really want some form of communism to create their hate-free utopia. There will always be hate, even if it's wrong, people are generally animals.

 

[Clop]

I was proven wrong, plain and simple. That, and even though I was one of those idiots, I still believed you can joke about anything, and that's what pissed them off. Once you piss off the rest of the cult and they kick you out, you start thinking about what you really value. Bad behavior was cultivated by people who were fine with anti-social attitudes as long as the message was stamped and approved. That's one of the reasons why it's a popular way of thinking, you have little responsibility but a lot of ass pats if you adhere to the doctrine. Very little effort, large returns. Pure fucking heroin.

 

[Faket0Fake]

I think a lot of it will depend on environmental factors,education and personal experience. The long term SJW's tend to be poorly educated and take degrees where the only job you'll ever be able to get is teaching. Most will end up teaching the next generation of leftie students at colleges. I was very left-wing as a college student and took part in various protests for LGBT rights,anti racism and so on but I think it was being part of this crowd that ultimately led to me changing many of my far-left views. I found myself banging my head against the wall so many times because I wanted to talk about real issues and it was just a popularity contest, the popular crowd steered the ship and it always went the direction of the popular buzzwords.

The final straw was probably when I bought up an idea for better disabled support at the college when others wanted to focus on more rights for women of colour, after making my case I was told in a very condescending way that "it's not a competition" and my idea was shot down to get women of colour free laptops instead. I think also the older I got, the more areas of LGBT culture I found didn't fit with my views and I changed to a more centerist view politically and became more conservative about LGBT relationships. My changing views didn't sit well with old friends and I didn't really want to be part of a crowd run by privileged rich minority kids and white people wanting to play "white saviour" for immigrants.

 

[PL 001]

I think it can be done if they're still young enough. High School and college aged SJWs are still young adults trying to figure out who they are, and where they stand in the world. Quite often they latch on to what appears to be popular in the cultural zeitgeist to feel accepted. Once they gain more life experience and have their views questioned, they may snap out of it. You have an SJW in their late 20s or 30s, I pretty much write them off as a lost cause.

I used to be pretty left leaning when I was younger. I had a very black and white view of politics, liberals were the people who stood up for the little guy, who fought against oppression and prejudice, who wanted everyone to be equal and have their fair share. Who wouldn't want to be part of that?

The illusion started to shatter when I was in college, and this was in the early 2000s before the woke craze really took off. If you didn't tow the party line 100% say the right words, have the right opinion, if you even dared to give a right leaning opinion thought or a right leaning student a chance to explain their position, you were ostracized and made fun of by the professor and class. It was like the love bombing tactics cults use on new members. If you turned in a paper that mostly agreed with leftist politics, but questioned or disagrees with one aspect, your grade on it would be slashed to ribbons.

It wasn't just school. I was a liberal, but I didn't hate conservatives. My first serious partner in a relationship was a conservative. I lost almost all my friends at the time for dating "the enemy" I got called a Nazi ect.. it really started to sour me on things and show me the mob mentality leftists love.

Once Trump was elected and they lost their shit, I mean I knew liberals that LITERALLY went out in the streets weeping and declaring anyone who voted for him to forever be their enemy, to die ect.. I was done. I was pretty much finished with their shit before Trump, but the election night and few months after cemented my decision to walk away from it. I'm somewhere between libertarian and conservative politically, and I feel a lot better being true to my beliefs and not blindly following what I thought would be best like I did when I was young and naive.

Fuck that was a ramble. Yeah, I think SJWs can be deprogrammed if they wise up before becoming so entrenched in their beliefs that it's all they know and all they want to know.

 

[UQ 770]

I'm still convinced its linked to anxiety of some kind. Any SJ-leaning person presents almost identical behavior to hardcore /pol/tards I know: They're polite and reasonable to talk with, up until you touch on whatever topic makes them flip their shit. I dunno if people just need the right meds or something, but generally I've only seen people calm down politically when their lives become easier. Usually if things don't improve their political beliefs just shift from one side of the pen to the other. Eventually if they go far enough off the deep end you get a hobo waving a knife around on the street.

On the flipside, any time I've seen someone become more extreme politically, usually its accompanying some period of stress or misfortune in their lives. In some cases they might just be looking for something to blame, but in general as life gets harder people's minds start to melt into paranoia and savagrey. This is not a new observation either.

 

[Pomniman]

I'm still convinced its linked to anxiety of some kind. Any SJ-leaning person presents almost identical behavior to hardcore /pol/tards I know: They're polite and reasonable to talk with, up until you touch on whatever topic makes them flip their shit. I dunno if people just need the right meds or something, but generally I've only seen people calm down politically when their lives become easier. Usually if things don't improve their political beliefs just shift from one side of the pen to the other. Eventually if they go far enough off the deep end you get a hobo waving a knife around on the street.

On the flipside, any time I've seen someone become more extreme politically, usually its accompanying some period of stress or misfortune in their lives. In some cases they might just be looking for something to blame, but in general as life gets harder people's minds start to melt into paranoia and savagrey. This is not a new observation either.

It might be a kind of anxiety but I'm of the mind that it's a largely artificial form of anxiety. The insidious thing about political fixations in general is that the supposed importance of being politically active or at least politically conscious causes most people to forget that politics are ultimately a kind of bread and circus unto themselves and putting so much effort into being "woke" or "redpilled" when the average person has little to no real influence over national or geopolitics can very easily ruin one's mental health and life in more direct ways. It's a lot like being in a cult in that they're convinced these matters are more personally and directly significant to them than anything in their day to day lives.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

I'd like to say there is a developmental time limit, and unfortunately most people are taking longer to sort of settle into it. That said if your not a reformed SJW type before your early 30's then it's most likely game over in ever being able to reform. And like some people have said above, it forms the main bulk of someones personality to the point where it is their personality and the only aspect of it.

I knew a few SJW types, though I'd had the benefit of living in a deeply conservative area it wasn't for lack of the education system to try and get us kids on board. I tended to buck the trend, because I had the benefit of having been able to pre-study some subjects before the school year, such as political sciences and history and so knew when I was being lied to.

We also had a very cool teacher at one point who went out of their way to discuss political bias and influence and subtly introduced the idea to the class that our nationally mandated curriculum wasn't as fair as it could have been.
That said I had very liberal leanings up until college, and then lost it over a period of time. I couldn't stand how hypocritical lefties were, or the fact that in their estimation I wasn't committed enough to causes because I was willing to take a balanced view of things and would often side with the right if they were correct. This was before full SJW madness came into effect, but even at the time some of the academic teachers (English & Biology) I had were warning against it again subtly in class, and in private were much more open to talk about how the rot had set in to the college institutions.

That said there are fewer types of people I personally hate more than SJW's. They're hypocrites and liars, often no different or worse than the so called people that they are "fighting against," completely disconnected from reality, often willing to use any means necessary to discredit people in the names of their causes, and are often the most ignorant, oafish and boorish people I have ever met. They deserve any violence they reap upon themselves.

 

[Bum Driller]

I say give it time. In ten years, SJW's and alt-right are yesterdays news and something else has become trendy in their place, as young people forever seek something to belong to.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

I think a lot of it will depend on environmental factors,education and personal experience. The long term SJW's tend to be poorly educated and take degrees where the only job you'll ever be able to get is teaching. Most will end up teaching the next generation of leftie students at colleges. I was very left-wing as a college student and took part in various protests for LGBT rights,anti racism and so on but I think it was being part of this crowd that ultimately led to me changing many of my far-left views. I found myself banging my head against the wall so many times because I wanted to talk about real issues and it was just a popularity contest, the popular crowd steered the ship and it always went the direction of the popular buzzwords.

The final straw was probably when I bought up an idea for better disabled support at the college when others wanted to focus on more rights for women of colour, after making my case I was told in a very condescending way that "it's not a competition" and my idea was shot down to get women of colour free laptops instead. I think also the older I got, the more areas of LGBT culture I found didn't fit with my views and I changed to a more centerist view politically and became more conservative about LGBT relationships. My changing views didn't sit well with old friends and I didn't really want to be part of a crowd run by privileged rich minority kids and white people wanting to play "white saviour" for immigrants.

Good news is that new arrivals to college are no longer having any of it

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

I say give it time. In ten years, SJW's and alt-right are yesterdays news and something else has become trendy in their place, as young people forever seek something to belong to.

Zoomers will come up with an even dumber fad, I fear.

 

[QI 541]

That said there are fewer types of people I personally hate more than SJW's. They're hypocrites and liars, often no different or worse than the so called people that they are "fighting against," completely disconnected from reality, often willing to use any means necessary to discredit people in the names of their causes, and are often the most ignorant, oafish and boorish people I have ever met. They deserve any violence they reap upon themselves.

I don't hate the SJW as much as the people who enable them. I don't blame SJWs for acting the way they do, they're simply exploiting the stupidity of the masses. I'd do the same if I was in their position.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

It was a sober wakeup call and was enough to throw a left-leaning person like me in the complete opposite direction

That means you now believe in the opposite of what you did before? Like no rights for gay people etc?

 

[Muttnik]

That means you now believe in the opposite of what you did before? Like no rights for gay people etc?

Not THAT drastic. I'm perfectly fine with gay people and have several friends who are legitimately gay. I want the same rights for them as anyone.

But I no longer identify as left-leaning and I'm pretty disgusted at what a hypocritical circus it has become.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

We need to force SJWs and alt-righters to get married and see who converts whom

There's more attractive people in the alt-right than amongst SJWs, and the vast majority of both groups are (or deserve to be) incels.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I think the end of this will come when the financial and social benefits comes to an end for the "Social Justice" movement. I am extremely cynical about this for it seems every major SJW figurehead or preacher is some sort of scumbag whether it be financial or social credit they are after. You would see the movement for the house of cards it is if suddenly the "Stunning and Brave" attitudes would disappear and their social views not tolerated by the general public. How many of these people would be apart of "The Resistance" if in reality they were apart of an actual social movement that could get them arrested and killed like those who are protesting in Hong Kong?